Abrahamic Religions - The true Evil of this world

The absence of belief is disbelief, not belief. Disbelief is not belief. Disbelief means that you come the the conclusion after carefull examination, cross checking historical data and finding the tenets of whatever brand of religion is in question to be wanting in fact. In turn, being an atheist, like me, is not my particular brand of belief or religion (which I've seen some people equate it with) but rather a form of terminology used to describe a person that is not-theistic. Atheism is not a religion and you will not find the church of atheist anywhere.

Atheist = Not Theist

Please understand the logic here.

Belief is the opposite of disbelief.
Theistic is the opposite of atheist.

Therefore you cannot say unbelief or atheism is someones brand of belief or religion.



The word blasphemous means absolutely nothing in any other context except in a religious one.

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Anything considered inviolable can be blasphemed i.e.the constitution. Lets review your logic. You don't have disbelief, so you believe? You are anti-religious or atheist, so you would be...anti-christ? You have no faith, no belief, no moral code? Or did you create one. If you did not, you would have faith or belief in someone or something that created said moral code. Your faith in man is faith in failure or pride.
God bless.

Wow, the level of ignorance here is stagering. Again, blasphemous has no connotation outside of the realms of religion. Do your homework.

My logic is not "my logic", it is just logic. It is not an opinion or hypothesis, it is what is universally regarded as the foundation for which everything we do is based on. Tested and found to be sound.

Evidently I wasn't clear enough for you. Let me try again. I was only pointing out to you the definition of belief and disbelief. You are saying now that I don't have 'disbelief'? WTF? This makes not alot of sense to me or anyone else unless you do not have an understanding of basic logic skills.

I suppose the mistake I have made is in thinking we are all at least thinking on an even ground here and understand basic fundamental principles of thought.

What is wrong with society and the corruption of free discourse of ideas can be attributed to peoples' lack of understanding how to think. Yes, there is a right and wrong way to go about using your brain. Take the word 'truth' for example. This word is thrown around so carelessly that I refuse to use it in conversation anymore. Any religious person using the word 'truth' to describe their personal conviction of whatever credulous belief they adhere to clearly has no understanding of the basics of logicical thinking and if we can't agree on at least that simple a level then it is indeed hopeless to progress to the next step. Credulous and incredible, by the way, are words just like blasphemous. They are used to describe how religious belief is basically bullshit. In the real world we don't use these words.

Atheism, again, is not anti-christ. You just feel that way because as a christian anything that rubs you the wrong way becomes an emotional issue. You get emotional and haughty because in your subconcious you know you are probably full of it. You know you are full of it because you know you doubt the credibility of your faith. Thus, your belief is credulous. Next time you are talking with someone or on here notice how you or others will raise your voice, get agitated, emotional and or try to talk over the other person. This is a classic example of what people do when they know their side of a debate is questionable.

You are an atheist btw. Atheist simply means not-theist...not religious. If you are a christian then you are an atheist toward judaism, islam, hinduism, buddhism etc...in other words you do not believe in any other religious belief other than christianity. All I do is go one more god further than you.

Where do you think being moral comes from? Christianity, judaism? This is the most asked Q from believers of atheists. Think of how you would feel if someone punched you in the face, or raped your wife, or robbed you of your money and possessions. You clearly would agree that this would be a terrible thing to happen to you. Now you know why you wouldn't do this to someone else. Simply, you do not need a make believe diety to guide you on the right path. Morality is based on doing to others as you would have them do to you. Respect. Love. Compassion. All of these things for the sake of themselves, not because a preacher tells you god commands it under penalty of whatever.

Btw, moral codes are a universal concept. Every society that has progressed intellectually with or without religion understands this.

Finally, if you on a personal level feel you need christ to be moral then I would suggest to you that somewhere in your past (you are not alone in this) you have had unpleasant experiences which have been unresolved and instead been channeled into religion. This is like taking tylenol for a headache. You mask the headache but do not address why it is you have the headache in the first place. Figure out why it is you believe what you do. Why is it we believe what we do, what is the history of mankind in regards belief and religion. Why is this topic emotional to you.

Don't pin the garbage, man made, on Abraham. You are wrong.

I dont think i did, just wanted to show where the problem arose, not calling him out at all.

OP, did you dream of the eclipse?

I had trouble with my dream last night, i didn't remember it so well. The moon did seem to feature alot, and there was something in the way. It was like the crecent was on the top, not on the side like it usually is.

I read the post about the double eclipse, something resonated with me about this.

What are you feeling?

Intelligent. Superb. Kudos.

im thinking that you are going to be exposed to something supernatural that will change your life profoundly.

friday.... give or take 4 or so days.

It wouldn't surprise me brother, not in the least. Thanks for the heads up.

I would love to know what you feel will happen. Understand im not stranger to supernatural occurances.

i am female, lol, and you are...?

Lets check our homework.

Blasphemy: an irreverent act in regard to something inviolable. Say logic.

Religion: A principle pursued with devotion.
Hmmmmm....like logic?

Atheist:one who denies the existence of God or gods.

Are you blasphemous towards your own religion?

God bless.

Wups, i did know that from earlier posts. Sorry about that freind, guess i should have said Sis. Me, im a guy. Im really intrested to hear what you have seen. Dont hold out on me.

the trippy thing is, i saw the moon pass like a black disc before the sun in a night sky. with it was a message, almost like a banner above it, but i couldn't make out the words. but, the hunch i got was it would be a message for you that will change your way of thinking about "the invisible." I have no idea what this means for you.

THEN, two days later, i realized that we are having a solar eclipse on Friday.

trippy....

That make absolutely zero sense.

The invisible does make sence, definately. Especially being combined with a disk that passes the Moon. I have seen quite a few invisibles in the past, they are i have to say some of the most incredible things ever. They really jumped when they realised i could see them. Some seem cloaked interdimensionally, some spiritually and some technologically. But ive seen cloaking of three types, and seen through it. All but the interdimensional ones revealed themselves to me.

What gave you the impression this message was for me? Looking forward's to tomorrow for sure. I had the stranges dream last night, very creepy. I could send you an e-mail, but i cant talk about it openly.

Thanks Salty for sharing this with me. But please, i'd love to know what gave you the impression this concerned me?

Blessed be!

PM me the dream from last night. i think that might be the one. we can talk more about it there.

I cant PM you, the membership 'open your eyes' gave me ran out. Screw it i'll tell you here. I think i can talk arround it if you understand.

ok, it's kinda strange. I was given a mission, it involved handing out marks. Some were marked quite predominantly, they were people who were exceptionally spiritual, this type of mark was quaite an honur to recieve. Others got a mark elsewhere, not so obvious, but they all recieved the same mark, just different places. These were to ensure that that would be untouched by what was coming.

Is this kinda simmilar to what you were dreaming about.

I was given some really cool stuff so i could get the job done. A sweet white alien motorcycle.

interesting. i sent you a PM, see if you get it

cool, just about to open it.
:)

OP spoken like a person who has no idea about "religion" and spiritual faith but seems to just take Wikipedia advice ignorantly.


the quest for "englightement" and "knowledge (worldly)" will continue to leave you wanting more and more never being content or striving to attain the glorious plan and future we have in the riches of christ jesus or produce spiritual fruit for his kingdom.

vanity of vanities all is vanities" even the true wisdom and real enlightenment that only helps fuel your self-centered ego.

kill the pride. die to yourself daily. if enlightenment is what you seek.

GRACE TRUMPS KARMA ANYDAY OF THE WEEK. AND karma is just that "you reap what you sow"

oh but the sweet morsel of joy that we born again believers call grace. that was offered at the cross of Calvary. was it not grace through faith that resurrected LORD JESUS as well???


1 Corinthians 1:20-31


20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
22 For jewish people request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom; 23 but we preach Christ crucified, to the jewish people a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness,
24 but to those who are called, both jewish people and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
Glory Only in the Lord

26 For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called.
27 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; 28 and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are,
29 that no flesh should glory in His presence.
30 But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God—and righteousness and sanctification and redemption—
31 that, as it is written, “He who glories, let him glory in the LORD.”



seek the one who has RISEN.why follow dead men doctrine.

ok, i can read your e-mails, but cant reply. I have one written, im sure youd like to read it. If you send me your e-mail address i can send it there. You can trust me not to do anything wierd with it.

ok.

sent it, lucky i cut and pase onto a notepad, theres quite allot.

i just got it. reading it again. if you want my feedback, i will PM you here.

Yea, please. any questions too just ask.

check your inbox...

Hey what's up man! Anyway can u show me evidence for all the claims mentioned above?