RADIATION / YELLOW RAIN. WEST COAST / EVACUATION WARNING> NOV 2011 | |
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(OP) User ID: 1393568 United States 11/28/2011 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what I think the yellow substance is in our rain!!! America wake up and smell the Plutonium… How much plutonium does it take to overdose a person? PLUTONIUM DIOXIDE. Plutonium is a highly toxic material. Attempts to deny or to obscure this fact are, we feel, irresponsible. Some spokespersons for AECL and for the Government of Canada have suggested that there is no danger involved in MOX transport worthy of anyone’s serious consideration. We feel compelled to point out that, although the probability of a severe accident that would release plutonium to the atmosphere is admittedly small, the potential health and environmental consequences of such an accident can be serious due to the extraordinary toxicity of plutonium when inhaled. It is for this reason alone that the United States of America has made it illegal to transport plutonium by air in US territory. Such a prohibition does not exist for any other radioactive material. Atomic Energy of Canada Limited has admitted, in documents submitted to Transport Canada, that in four out of eight categories of serious road transportation accidents, the MOX containers would be completely destroyed and a plume of plutonium dust would be spread downwind to a distance of about 80 kilometers. Transport Canada has stated — not once, but several times, in its response to public commentaries about AECL’s plans for MOX transport by road — that transporting MOX by air is much more dangerous than doing it by road because of the health dangers of inhaling plutonium dust following an accident. Industry and government spokespersons have insisted that120 grams of plutonium is too small an amount to raise legitimate health and environmental concerns. They have made the irrelevant observation that 120 grams of plutonium is about the size of two A-A batteries. Such remarks are manipulative in nature; they do not help people to weigh the risk. The important quantity is not the VOLUME or MASS of plutonium, but its TOXICITY. Based on data supplied by AECB (see letter above) we can address the toxicity question as follows: In principle, using AECB’s regulatory limits, how many ”civilians” can be overdosed by 100 grams of plutonium? 0.1 micrograms can overdose One civilian 0.1 grams can overdose One million civilians 1 gram can overdose ten million civilians 100 grams can overdose one billion civilians 600 grams can overdose six billion civilians If there is a serious accident involving 120 grams of plutonium (in the form of MOX), how many civilian overdoses could, in principle, result? if NONE of the plutonium is safely contained there is a potential for one billion two hundred million civilian overdoses. if 90 percent of it is safely contained there is a potential for one hundred and twenty million civilian overdoses. if 99.9 percent of it is safely contained there is a potential for one hundred and twenty thousand civilian overdoses. if 99.999 percent of it is safely contained there is a potential for one thousand two hundred civilian overdoses. In principle, using AECB’s regulatory limits, how many ”atomic radiation workers” can be overdosed by 140 grams of plutonium? 1.4 micrograms can overdose one atomic worker 1.4 grams can overdose one million workers 14 grams can overdose ten million workers 140 grams can overdose one hundred million workers 560 grams can overdose four hundred million workers If there is a serious accident involving 600 grams of plutonium (in the form of MOX), how many worker overdoses could, in principle, result? if NONE of the plute is safely contained there is a potential for four hundred twenty-five million worker overdoses if 90 percent of it is safely contained there is a potential for forty-two and a half million worker overdoses if 99.9 percent of it is safely contained there is a potential for forty-two and a half thousand worker overdoses if 99.999 percent of it is safely contained there is a potential for four hundred and twenty-five worker overdoses If there is a serious accident involving 600 grams of plutonium (in the form of MOX), how many civilian overdoses could, in principle, result? if NONE of the plute is safely contained there is a potential for six billion civilian overdoses if 90 percent of it is safely contained there is a potential for six hundred million civilian overdoses if 99.9 percent of it is safely contained there is a potential for six hundred thousand civilian overdoses if 99.999 percent of it is safely contained there is a potential for six thousand civilian overdoses Each fuel rod contains 20% plutonium. There are 360 fuel pellets per rod. Estimated weight of pellets are 5 grams. There are 264 fuel rods per assembly… So. 264 x 360 =95,040 (total fuel pellets per fuel assembly) 95,040 x 5 grams = 475,200 grams of nuclear fuel… Divide 475,000 By 20% to find the quantity of plutonium… 475,000g x 0.20 (20%) = 95,040 grams of plutonium… (per fuel assembly)… [link to my.firedoglake.com] We’d be lucky if we only had to worry about the spent fuel rods from a single holding pool. We’re not that lucky. The Fukushima Daiichi plant has seven pools for spent fuel rods. Six of these are (or were) located at the top of six reactor buildings. One “common pool” is at ground level in a separate building. Each “reactor top” pool holds 3450 fuel rod assemblies. The common pool holds 6291 fuel rod assemblies. [The common pool has windows on one wall which were almost certainly destroyed by the tsunami.] Each assembly holds two hundred sixty-three fuel rods. This means the Fukushima Daiichi plant may contain over 600,000 spent fuel rods. So top fuel pool holds 3450 assemblies, common fuel pool holds 6291 assemblies… Total: 9741 assemblies x 95,040g plutonium = total =925,784,640g plutonium (in reactor 3 alone)… now it gets fun… 925,784,640g plutonium / 10% = 92,578,464g plutonium 1.0g plutonium is equal to ten million Overdose’s… 92,578,464g plutonium x 10 million Overdoses =’s Now if only 10% of the fuel in reactor 3 escaped… 927,584,640,000,000 Overdoses Globally Cheers, Emmy… p.s. 1% is simply taking off 1, zero off the end... So if only 1% of reactor 3 was released... 92,758,464,000,000 overdoses 0.1% of fuel released would be 9,275,846,400,000 overdoses... So in that case if only 1 millionth of the fuel was release respectably, 9,275,846 would be potentially affected. Though the likely hood of this is a theoretical impossibility... Due to the amounts of radiation released to date, one can be and should be certain that at least 10 pounds of plutonium was released in March 2011... 2800 grams per pound (roughly). - 10 million overdoses per gram... 28,000,000,000 Overdoses. In only a few months time winter will come. Pneumonia will likely be a heavy burden attributing to our already weakened lung chemistry. Once the snow pack sets in, Trillions of ionizing radiation particles will be brought down in a horrific nuclear winter… Shaking, fevers, congestion, aching bodies, & Sore throats will be our first indication that the harmful bioaccumulations of radionuclides is present… Eventually our immune systems will decline to a sort of paradigm shift. What once used to heal our bodies of infections and diseases, will hamper our health even further as it attempts to rid us of our radiotoxins. Come spring after the cold melts away ground water resting below our soil will obtain a level of MASS CONTAMINATION. Eventually leading to the nurturing of organic matter, heavily altered from its original genetic composition. This same contaminated organic matter will be what we use to feed our nations live stock. Our soils accumulative absorption of radiation; will sooner than not: plague our crops, irradiate our loved ones, and eventually cause mass pandemic. By February, of 2012, International governments will begin to effectively monitor the damage of 2011 alone… Issues will be raised, fingers will be pointed… Too little too late. We had and have a very limited amount of time to act on fukushima. If the reactors continue to create airborne radiation plumes; This in addition to the burning of radioactive materials. This winter will be all that I promised A NUCLEAR ONE. I heavily advise all enenews users, to have both food and water, as well as any other emergency supplies prior to Oct 2011. In my opinion, the coming winter will we horrific. Trust your own instincts. & as always cheers Emmy. 2011 SOURCES: Report: 76 trillion becquerels of Plutonium-239 released from Fukushima — 23,000 times higher than previously announced [...] The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA)’s daily press conference is ongoing (August 29). The NISA spokesman Moriyama mentions neptunium-239′s conversion ratio to plutonium-239 as 1 to 1. According to the June 6 estimate by the NISA [see chart below] [...] Neptunium-239: 7.6×10^13 [...] At a ratio of 1:1, Plutonium-239 releases are also 7.6 x 10^13, or 76 tera(trillion)becquerels. 23,000 higher than previous gov’t estimate [...] According to the June 6 estimate by the NISA [see chart below]: Plutonium-239: 3.2×10^9 [3.2 billion becquerels] [...] The amount of plutonium-239 has increased 23,000-fold. [...] [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] There you have it folks. The YELLOW RAIN IS HIGHLY RADIOACTIVE. |
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(OP) User ID: 1393568 United States 11/28/2011 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | P.s. my observation as well as yours is supported by many, many others Check this link: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Ichicax4 User ID: 3398825 United States 11/28/2011 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Emmy thank you again for your informative, although depressing math. Could you direct me to the thread where you did the math problem of evacuating Tokyo? it was months and months ago I believe. I'm not even sure it was on this site, it may have been an enenews post?? Thank you dear. Mad respect. Ichi |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5686610 United States 11/28/2011 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we actually left portland 2 days after fuku went off becuz we saw the writing on the wall...after 3 weeks we had to come back & resume life but saved up to move to fla. CUZ LOWER FLA. SEEMS OUT OF THE path more than any othr u.s. location...mexico i know well, but is now to dangerous...paraguay & uraguay were the best choices, maybe chile, but making a living there seemed impossible for me. BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT...I KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING & AM AWARE OF IT ALWAYS... i should've gone to fla. to be further away from it, but our food & water will still come from hotspot areas. |
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User ID: 6182700 United States 11/28/2011 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think ANY government officials are actually safe/immune to the radioactivity... So why wouldn't they be reporting it or safeguarding against it? The world makes NO sense any more. EVERYONE WOULD BE AT RISK !!! So what's TRUE ? This is sooooooo confusing. "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." ~ Albert Einstein |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5795678 United States 11/28/2011 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was shown is a vision in April Radiation in the Rain from the most high. It started raining briefly the next day and I told my hubby to get out of the rain. I warned my parents who live in the Pacific NW and they did not seem to care and thought thought I was crazy. My father tried to tell me after Fuku meltdown that all that nucleaur contamination would get washed out into the atmosphere and would never reach the west coast of America. I cant beleive how ignorant my own fmaily is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1548362 Canada 11/28/2011 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was shown is a vision in April Radiation in the Rain from the most high. It started raining briefly the next day and I told my hubby to get out of the rain. I warned my parents who live in the Pacific NW and they did not seem to care and thought thought I was crazy. My father tried to tell me after Fuku meltdown that all that nucleaur contamination would get washed out into the atmosphere and would never reach the west coast of America. I cant beleive how ignorant my own fmaily is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5795678 listen to the government they are all scientists, your father knows best he must have studied as a nuclear scientist too. |
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User ID: 2519574 United States 11/28/2011 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think ANY government officials are actually safe/immune to the radioactivity... So why wouldn't they be reporting it or safeguarding against it? Quoting: Yes I Did !!!! The world makes NO sense any more. EVERYONE WOULD BE AT RISK !!! So what's TRUE ? This is sooooooo confusing. This is what I have been wondering. The good old so called "elite" and govt. still have to drink water and breathe. So would they not be genociding themselves? It makes no sense why more has not been done to fix fuku. Anyone care to explain?? |
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(OP) TG (OP) User ID: 1393568 United States 11/28/2011 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That count looks to be cumulative not CPM. Quoting: N3m3s1s In other words the counter is adding all the clicks but not dividing by time. The problem is that the count is 6500% above background, It is also long half life radiation. So it rules out fast decay isotopes. The problem is I am reporting it to you all. as the media wont even talk to me about it. The problem is no citizen can detect elements like plutonium. All the while it is officially conclusive that both. Plutonium comes from a nuclear meltdown. While at the same time were seeing radiation traces in our rain and no one is detecting plutonium. THe problem is people like you that minimalise the situation without being fearful of the consequences or asking about the severity of the crisis. Hypothetically I am telling you all that we are fucked. As I am raising a strong argument full of facts. Its about time we all started ranting about this and demanding that our nation take adequate tests in reference to our air soil water and food. All nations for that matter. The jig is up. We have a real problem to fix here. No one should sleep while the house is on fire. NEWS FLASH. Its on fire. Im doing my part. Why isn't my government? |
(op) Didn't feel like log (OP) User ID: 1393568 United States 11/28/2011 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That count looks to be cumulative not CPM. Quoting: N3m3s1s In other words the counter is adding all the clicks but not dividing by time. Forgot. About your post. This sample is moderated between several layers of plastic. So all we see is a mild beta emittance as well as a gamma influence. I am only demonstrating that here in the pacific northwest, radiation is currently (to- date) falling, in our nw rain. It Needs to be tested for the worst of the worst. As the yellow substances found are certainly not pollen. The pollen argument is up. SO WHAT IS THE YELLOW STUFF IN THE RAIN!!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6172557 United States 11/28/2011 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That count looks to be cumulative not CPM. Quoting: N3m3s1s In other words the counter is adding all the clicks but not dividing by time. Forgot. About your post. This sample is moderated between several layers of plastic. So all we see is a mild beta emittance as well as a gamma influence. I am only demonstrating that here in the pacific northwest, radiation is currently (to- date) falling, in our nw rain. It Needs to be tested for the worst of the worst. As the yellow substances found are certainly not pollen. The pollen argument is up. SO WHAT IS THE YELLOW STUFF IN THE RAIN!!! GET PICS OF YELLOW DUST/RAIN...TELL A LOCAL PRO PHOTOGRAPHER |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2677534 United States 11/28/2011 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's in the western carolina mtns too. i'm healthy as it gets, feel it in my throat, tingly sometimes in skin. nothing like i've ever felt -- it actually feels radioactive. weird how others are not noticing (do you know why this is). i think the population is so unhealthy anyway, they write it off as the flu or allergies. my girlfriend is health and doesn't notice anything. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1296906 United States 11/29/2011 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When the human body absorbs radiation, you don't get cancer right away. Give the radiation particles some time to rip apart people's dna. This is what's great about radiation because everyone thinks since they are alive today means they will go unaffected. In the near future, we will be wondering why cancer rates have soared. Of course the governments will feed us bullshit lies and excuses. That's how this story will play out. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3626024 United States 11/29/2011 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow you are a fucking idiot. this is what the original posters comment for the video on youtube says: [link to www.youtube.com] ... It came out to be 65.9 CPM the first time and 68.3 CPM on the second check. Picture of 2nd ck link on enenews. So, the good news is, your yellow snow is not any more contaminated out there in WA than our environment is here. ... SEEMS SOME GLP MEMBER IS HIGHLY EXAGGERATING THE INFO ONCE AGAIN. CUZ THERE SURE IS A FUCKING DOT IN THERE BETWEEN THOSE 3 NUMBERS. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1356602 Canada 11/29/2011 12:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The good old so called "elite" and govt. still have to drink water and breathe. So would they not be genociding themselves? It makes no sense why more has not been done to fix fuku. Anyone care to explain?" ********** I suspect that they know how bad Fukushima is, and also know that there is nothing that can be done about it, and they don't want the people to go apehit crazy, so they say nothing, and keep themselves and their kids out of the rain and away from seafood. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4472362 Canada 11/29/2011 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The good old so called "elite" and govt. still have to drink water and breathe. So would they not be genociding themselves? It makes no sense why more has not been done to fix fuku. Anyone care to explain?" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1356602 ********** I suspect that they know how bad Fukushima is, and also know that there is nothing that can be done about it, and they don't want the people to go apehit crazy, so they say nothing, and keep themselves and their kids out of the rain and away from seafood. Not only that but they probably have some good access to the real iodine tablets that were pulled from all the shelves shortly before the fuku disaster, leaving all the rest of the peasants to scramble for kelp and what not from the health food stores. :) |
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