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FREE WILL choice to go to hell??....for those christians who always say "Its your choice" | |
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Evan03
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1073518 United States11/29/2011 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not a christian myself friend. i see where yer coming from, but screaming and name calling just bring the same to ye. ye'll never change them either. a christian believes as they do through "faith". logic and reason are not in the picture. now when the start in on ye with their condemnation and attempts to convert feel free to tell them to fuck off. i've been known to tell them to rot in hell when they track me down and get in my face, but if it's not self defense it's just a waste of time. a pissing match to see who's got the biggest dick i guess. save yer energy for more important fights. just my two cents. |
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| BRIEF
User ID: 381742 United States11/29/2011 05:09 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's your choice to be in God's family or not...His way is happiness, any other way eventually leads to suffering...but you won't spend eternity in hell...you'll just be erased like you never existed at all, should you choose evil over his perfect way... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.  |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6250955 Australia11/29/2011 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not a christian myself friend. i see where yer coming from, but screaming and name calling just bring the same to ye. ye'll never change them either. a christian believes as they do through "faith". logic and reason are not in the picture. now when the start in on ye with their condemnation and attempts to convert feel free to tell them to fuck off. i've been known to tell them to rot in hell when they track me down and get in my face, but if it's not self defense it's just a waste of time. a pissing match to see who's got the biggest dick i guess. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1073518 save yer energy for more important fights. just my two cents. See what I mean? You just proved in your replies that you ARE cruel..heartless..callous..and just dont care. As I said... You become like the God you worship..CRUEL..HEARTLESS..INDIFFERENT..UNCARING..THAT is how you can look at the billions in the world and NOT CARE ONE BIT about their agonizing eternity..and flick it of with the EVIL catch cry.."Well.its their CHOICE"...because..in your GREAT LOVE and COMPASSION..JUST like your GOD...YOU JUST DONT CARE. |
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| Evan03
User ID: 4849361 United States11/29/2011 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not a christian myself friend. i see where yer coming from, but screaming and name calling just bring the same to ye. ye'll never change them either. a christian believes as they do through "faith". logic and reason are not in the picture. now when the start in on ye with their condemnation and attempts to convert feel free to tell them to fuck off. i've been known to tell them to rot in hell when they track me down and get in my face, but if it's not self defense it's just a waste of time. a pissing match to see who's got the biggest dick i guess. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1073518 save yer energy for more important fights. just my two cents. See what I mean? You just proved in your replies that you ARE cruel..heartless..callous..and just dont care. As I said... You become like the God you worship..CRUEL..HEARTLESS..INDIFFERENT..UNCARING..THAT is how you can look at the billions in the world and NOT CARE ONE BIT about their agonizing eternity..and flick it of with the EVIL catch cry.."Well.its their CHOICE"...because..in your GREAT LOVE and COMPASSION..JUST like your GOD...YOU JUST DONT CARE. I don't think it is that we don't care about human suffering. I think at this point we just don't care what you have to say on this subject. It's the same ole same ole everyday, so what reaction do you expect to get? Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne Truth is the new hate speech in our age of absurdity-Ted Nougat Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupid. |
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| Phase-Sphere
User ID: 6109605 United States11/29/2011 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One person's heaven is another's hell. Its a riddle, wrapped in an enigma, surrounded by a conundrum. Only the dead know for sure. We are here to learn. What? Who knows for sure, but it would serve everyone's interest to at least try to be a better human. Never talk about Politics or Religion. You're always going to be on one side or the other. Riding the fence, you can see both sides. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6067235 Ireland11/29/2011 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not a christian myself friend. i see where yer coming from, but screaming and name calling just bring the same to ye. ye'll never change them either. a christian believes as they do through "faith". logic and reason are not in the picture. now when the start in on ye with their condemnation and attempts to convert feel free to tell them to fuck off. i've been known to tell them to rot in hell when they track me down and get in my face, but if it's not self defense it's just a waste of time. a pissing match to see who's got the biggest dick i guess. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1073518 save yer energy for more important fights. just my two cents. See what I mean? You just proved in your replies that you ARE cruel..heartless..callous..and just dont care. As I said... You become like the God you worship..CRUEL..HEARTLESS..INDIFFERENT..UNCARING..THAT is how you can look at the billions in the world and NOT CARE ONE BIT about their agonizing eternity..and flick it of with the EVIL catch cry.."Well.its their CHOICE"...because..in your GREAT LOVE and COMPASSION..JUST like your GOD...YOU JUST DONT CARE. No maybe its because you are a dramawhore and never stop with these threads , you are not looking for answers or opinions , you are just venting/whining in all these threads that you make on a daily basis . |
| Evan03
User ID: 4849361 United States11/29/2011 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Proof once again how much HATE you people have..and you CLAIM to serve the Lord of LOVE?? So you take this post as proof? Proof that christians are full of hate? You use the term proof loosely I see, considering that poster never claimed to be christian. Good proof there buddy. Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne Truth is the new hate speech in our age of absurdity-Ted Nougat Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupid. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1090326 Germany11/29/2011 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No it isn't. We defective specks do not dictate God's relationship with us. Uhm, do you know the only kind of relationship a dictate? Pitiful. (Huh?) It´s pitiful you know being dictated or to dictate only. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6206430 United States11/29/2011 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6244330 United States11/29/2011 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6244330 No it isn't. We defective specks do not dictate God's relationship with us. Uhm, do you know the only kind of relationship a dictate? Pitiful. (Huh?) It´s pitiful you know being dictated or to dictate only. I said no such thing. If God yields to what we coose, that's called dictation, which is another way of saying we're the ones deciding the outcome, not Him. But if God submits to our "freewill", we can only conclude that when every knee bows and every tongue confesses Him as Lord, those multitudes doing so have *chosen* to, by their own will, voluntarily, yes? Under such circumstances, how is salvation not utterly *poured* upon them? 1 Corinthians says that no one can confess Him but by the Holy Spirit. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2366338 United States11/29/2011 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What people don't understand is that no matter how they think hell isn't real, does not change the fact that it is. Satan's whole purpose is to deceive you into thinking that it is God. God created hell for the devil and his angels but because man chose to sin, he separates himself from his heavenly Creator. God sends us ministers to tell us the truth but we turn them away and say we want to do what we want to do and are rebellious. When we die, we see this separation and because God is all light, we cannot and will not stand before him. God does not choose this for us and tries every means to let us know the truth before we die. He is begging us to believe. All he is asking is that we receive his gift of faith. Right now, these days, he is pouring out his spirit and showing certain people the realities of heaven and yes, hell. Ask God for the truth and don't let your sin get in the way. If you truly ask him for the truth, He will show it to you. Please do this before it is too late. Do not be the foolish virgins who did not have oil in their lamps, (grace) for when the bridegroom returns. My heart is sorrowful at all the souls who will be lost |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1073518 United States11/29/2011 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nope that's not what the Bible says. It says the wages of sin is death not torture forever. Will you continue to repeat this lie? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6206430 i'm having trouble keeping track of who is who and wtf they are saying. lota name calling and hostility all the way around. have a nice day folks. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1090326 Germany11/29/2011 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326 Uhm, do you know the only kind of relationship a dictate? Pitiful. (Huh?) It´s pitiful you know being dictated or to dictate only. I said no such thing. If God yields to what we coose, that's called dictation, which is another way of saying we're the ones deciding the outcome, not Him. But if God submits to our "freewill", we can only conclude that when every knee bows and every tongue confesses Him as Lord, those multitudes doing so have *chosen* to, by their own will, voluntarily, yes? Under such circumstances, how is salvation not utterly *poured* upon them? 1 Corinthians says that no one can confess Him but by the Holy Spirit. Apparently you have not read the WHOLE Bible. For your misconception I blame your pastor(s). Blind lead the blind. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6244330 United States11/29/2011 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ask God for the truth and don't let your sin get in the way. If you truly ask him for the truth, He will show it to you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2366338 Absolutely. I began doing this several years ago once I came to recognize my rancid hypocrisy and lukewarmth. I got serious with Him, started learning true repentance, and not long after this He began to dispel the lies of eternal torture. It turns out that because God is Love, and Love never fails, He won't have to dispose of anyone, despite the objections of Church Inc. which clings to the pagan myths and idols it's been harboring for centuries. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2366338 United States11/29/2011 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | look on you tube for all the people God has shown hell to. He is doing this to warn is not to go there. Take a look for yourselves. Don't just say you don't believe. Do Not be one of the ones who would give anything to get out and now realize, (too late), that they are there for eternity. Repent of your sins so that you may be with Pure Love for eternity and not eternal hate. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6244330 United States11/29/2011 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apparently you have not read the WHOLE Bible. For your misconception I blame your pastor(s). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326 Blind lead the blind. I don't have any Pastors any more. I left 'em high and dry, and came outside the camp to where God is ;) Since you know the bible and I don't, can you direct me to the first place where God announces that sinners go to an afterife of eternal fire? I'll assume it would have to have been pretty early on, yes? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6244330 United States11/29/2011 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2366338 United States11/29/2011 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You say you do not believe in hell, then you don't believe God's word. He says for all adulterers, liars, thieves, slanderers, sorcerers, homosexuals, etc... You will be cast into hell where there is burning and gnashing of teeth and where the worm dies not. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1090326 Germany11/29/2011 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apparently you have not read the WHOLE Bible. For your misconception I blame your pastor(s). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326 Blind lead the blind. I don't have any Pastors any more. I left 'em high and dry, and came outside the camp to where God is ;) Since you know the bible and I don't, can you direct me to the first place where God announces that sinners go to an afterife of eternal fire? I'll assume it would have to have been pretty early on, yes? God´s everlasting anger began herewith: ... For a fire has been kindled by my wrath, one that burns to the realm of death below. It will devour the earth and its harvests and set afire the foundations of the mountains. Deuteronomy 32:22 |
FFS , Give it a rest you loon !
