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Euro collapse definitely on - bookies shorten the odds!

 
Anonymous Coward
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12/03/2011 05:09 AM
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Euro collapse definitely on - bookies shorten the odds!
We've had one set of 'experts' after another saying the Euro will collapse, it won't collapse - pages of complicated economics to explain why it won't go under - politicians waffling on bigging it up. Well, William Hill, the major firm of bookies in the UK, have just shortened the odds on it collapsing from 10-1 down to 3-1. I know who my money's on!
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12/03/2011 05:10 AM
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12/03/2011 05:13 AM
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A cog in the machine, a part of the process and im here to express that we need some progress...
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12/03/2011 05:43 AM
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Re: Euro collapse definitely on - bookies shorten the odds!
I don't think it will. All this was planned long time ago. They are forcing the EU to become a "USA of Europe" by threatening to detonate the financial H-Bomb.

The EU has always been one of their top priorities.
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12/03/2011 05:52 AM
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5 * s to rally behind a Euro collapse!

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12/03/2011 06:21 AM
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[link to sports.williamhill.com]

and Obama is odds on to be the next president.

That should please a few on here......................NOT
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12/03/2011 06:22 AM
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Re: Euro collapse definitely on - bookies shorten the odds!
I think I might cahe a couple of £ on Ron Paul, good outside chance I think.
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12/03/2011 06:41 AM
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Re: Euro collapse definitely on - bookies shorten the odds!
Hm.

I'm no expert on the subject,
but it wouldn't surprise me at all
if all this is about giving the central
government absolute control over
member states' internal budget and
economy.

Who lives will see.
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12/03/2011 06:56 AM
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Re: Euro collapse definitely on - bookies shorten the odds!
Hm.

I'm no expert on the subject,
but it wouldn't surprise me at all
if all this is about giving the central
government absolute control over
member states' internal budget and
economy.

Who lives will see.
 Quoting: Accidental Stoner 1191993


All the EU was about from the start was getting central control over all european countries by an un-elected technocratic collective of bankers and money men. They thought it was sure fire way to take control. As usual they neglected the obvious. Which is not all countries act and think alike.

Now the master plan has failed and they have egg on their faces. Now we have to wait and see what the next move will be.

My money is on an orderly phasing out of the Euro and a new plan of attack from "they who must be obeyed"
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12/03/2011 07:15 AM

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OP, do you have a link backing this up? Nothing personal, but imho, if the bookies are saying 3-1 that the Euro will collapse, then that is some serious doom. Bookies are more frequently than not, on the money.
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12/03/2011 07:19 AM
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Re: Euro collapse definitely on - bookies shorten the odds!
why then do markets rally these days?
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12/03/2011 07:27 AM

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why then do markets rally these days?
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They are reacting to short term stimulus. The markets have been drastically flip-flopping the last few months; more than usual.

Kinetic energy is building up. It is going to move and likely move big, one way or another...
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Re: Euro collapse definitely on - bookies shorten the odds!
OP, do you have a link backing this up? Nothing personal, but imho, if the bookies are saying 3-1 that the Euro will collapse, then that is some serious doom. Bookies are more frequently than not, on the money.
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Here's your link

[link to sports.williamhill.com]
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12/03/2011 07:45 AM
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any specific prediction? and will december 9th mark the end of the euro? is it a widespread prediction amongst economists like I heard?
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Re: Euro collapse definitely on - bookies shorten the odds!
OP, do you have a link backing this up? Nothing personal, but imho, if the bookies are saying 3-1 that the Euro will collapse, then that is some serious doom. Bookies are more frequently than not, on the money.
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Here's your link

[link to sports.williamhill.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6446568


Wow, indeed, there it is! Thank you.

Yep, 3-1 odds that the Euro will fall apart!@

And, they are even more sure of this, with 6/5 odds !!


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12/03/2011 08:01 AM
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Re: Euro collapse definitely on - bookies shorten the odds!
Hm.

I'm no expert on the subject,
but it wouldn't surprise me at all
if all this is about giving the central
government absolute control over
member states' internal budget and
economy.

Who lives will see.
 Quoting: Accidental Stoner 1191993


All the EU was about from the start was getting central control over all european countries by an un-elected technocratic collective of bankers and money men. They thought it was sure fire way to take control. As usual they neglected the obvious. Which is not all countries act and think alike.

Now the master plan has failed and they have egg on their faces. Now we have to wait and see what the next move will be.

My money is on an orderly phasing out of the Euro and a new plan of attack from "they who must be obeyed"
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the collapse was planned and scripted as will be the dollar's. the goal is to have a one world currency.
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12/03/2011 08:03 AM
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Re: Euro collapse definitely on - bookies shorten the odds!
I don't think it will. All this was planned long time ago. They are forcing the EU to become a "USA of Europe" by threatening to detonate the financial H-Bomb.

The EU has always been one of their top priorities.
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12/03/2011 08:08 AM
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Re: Euro collapse definitely on - bookies shorten the odds!
We've had one set of 'experts' after another saying the Euro will collapse, it won't collapse - pages of complicated economics to explain why it won't go under - politicians waffling on bigging it up. Well, William Hill, the major firm of bookies in the UK, have just shortened the odds on it collapsing from 10-1 down to 3-1. I know who my money's on!
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Your money better not be in stocks or 401ks....or banks...or paper money...
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12/03/2011 08:16 AM
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Re: Euro collapse definitely on - bookies shorten the odds!
Hm.

I'm no expert on the subject,
but it wouldn't surprise me at all
if all this is about giving the central
government absolute control over
member states' internal budget and
economy.

Who lives will see.
 Quoting: Accidental Stoner 1191993


All the EU was about from the start was getting central control over all european countries by an un-elected technocratic collective of bankers and money men. They thought it was sure fire way to take control. As usual they neglected the obvious. Which is not all countries act and think alike.

Now the master plan has failed and they have egg on their faces. Now we have to wait and see what the next move will be.

My money is on an orderly phasing out of the Euro and a new plan of attack from "they who must be obeyed"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6446568



the collapse was planned and scripted as will be the dollar's. the goal is to have a one world currency.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3840599



I am thinking Dec 9th could be the official "break up" date... Dollar would then be dead by the end of the year...
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12/03/2011 08:50 AM
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Re: Euro collapse definitely on - bookies shorten the odds!
why then do markets rally these days?
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Markets rally because the banks and investment groups have to show they are doing omething, otherwise there is no point in their existance.

The reality is if you look beyond the day to day ups and downs of the markets is that nothing is growing in value, and hasn't been for the last 5-6 years.

If you have been investing in pensions or 401K's as the Americans call them, the reality is that your "investment" has not shown any growth in the last 5-6 years as so your pension will mearly be the money you invested minus charges.

The vast growth they promised years ago has not been there and this is the big lie that the stock markets have been covering up.

These rally's mean absoloutly nothing as overall growth just is not happening.

This is why the value of paper currency is falling and falling, and all they can do is print more and more to make it look like the economy is working.
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12/03/2011 09:43 AM
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Its not going to collapse. The ten horn beast lives to become part of the OWG.
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12/03/2011 09:53 AM
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EURO - you are the weakest link. Goodbye!5a
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Re: Euro collapse definitely on - bookies shorten the odds!
We've had one set of 'experts' after another saying the Euro will collapse, it won't collapse - pages of complicated economics to explain why it won't go under - politicians waffling on bigging it up. Well, William Hill, the major firm of bookies in the UK, have just shortened the odds on it collapsing from 10-1 down to 3-1. I know who my money's on!
 Quoting: Destiny 2023


Thread: INTRADE - Event: Any country currently using the Euro to announce their intention to drop it midnight ET 31 Dec 2011 - Currently 7.4% chance

and currently 7.6%

headbang
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12/03/2011 10:39 AM
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Re: Euro collapse definitely on - bookies shorten the odds!
I wonder if one pathetic criminal nutfreak claimed the euro as a CORPORATION.
So you´ll have small entities in your wallet, small corporations.

Maybe this is the way they force our consent to the bigmoneyfraud.
The Big Bank Fraud so to say.

They will change the name and the EU-constitution and continue the SLAVERY
Go back to sleep.
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12/03/2011 11:08 AM
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Re: Euro collapse definitely on - bookies shorten the odds!
What currency are the bookies using? What will they pay out in? What do they want the vig paid in? I may go all in!

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12/03/2011 11:28 AM
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What currency are the bookies using? What will they pay out in? What do they want the vig paid in? I may go all in!
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That's true. It will be a win win for them.
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12/03/2011 11:35 AM
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What currency are the bookies using? What will they pay out in? What do they want the vig paid in? I may go all in!
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They will take your dollars and pay you out in (worthless) Euro's or course

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12/03/2011 11:46 AM
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I think I might cahe a couple of £ on Ron Paul, good outside chance I think.
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I'm going down the better to stick a wedge on!

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12/03/2011 11:53 AM
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Re: Euro collapse definitely on - bookies shorten the odds!
why then do markets rally these days?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6448929


To understand this you need to have paid attention over the past decade or so to what has happened in DC. Here is a brief summary for the attention deficit disorder crowd in here:

1) 1999 Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act (GLB).
2) 2000 The Commodity Futures Modernization Act (CFMA).
3) 2001 USA PATRIOT Act.
4) 2005 Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act (BAPCPA).
5) 2008 Emergency Economic Stabilization Act.
6) 2010 Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission.
7) 2010 The Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act.

Basically all this legislation represents the takeover (coup) of our government by banks and major corporations.

So, logically any more news or information of banks being bailed out for previous reckless behavior is bullish for the stock markets. Banks know that purchasing sovereign debt from out of control socialist countries in Europe is a financial failure if they were to bear the cost of failure on their own.

However, if instead policy is to solidify and centralize the incestuous relationship between governments and banks, then its very, very bullish.

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i wouldnt bet against the people with the printing machine....... just sayin"
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12/03/2011 12:23 PM
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why then do markets rally these days?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6448929


To understand this you need to have paid attention over the past decade or so to what has happened in DC. Here is a brief summary for the attention deficit disorder crowd in here:

1) 1999 Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act (GLB).
2) 2000 The Commodity Futures Modernization Act (CFMA).
3) 2001 USA PATRIOT Act.
4) 2005 Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act (BAPCPA).
5) 2008 Emergency Economic Stabilization Act.
6) 2010 Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission.
7) 2010 The Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act.

Basically all this legislation represents the takeover (coup) of our government by banks and major corporations.

So, logically any more news or information of banks being bailed out for previous reckless behavior is bullish for the stock markets. Banks know that purchasing sovereign debt from out of control socialist countries in Europe is a financial failure if they were to bear the cost of failure on their own.

However, if instead policy is to solidify and centralize the incestuous relationship between governments and banks, then its very, very bullish.

pigchef
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nicely done. ohyeah





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