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Why cannot earth folks envision a world without MONEY!

 
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IT IS NOT THAT HARD PEOPLE. Some folks didn't like my butting into this thread this evening. Thread: What is the reason for money?

So lets just do it under my name and YOU butt into this one with VISION. Living without money does not need serfdom. And it does not mean going back to the hunter gatherer stage either, nor to an agrarian life. It does not mean you trade your organic back yard grown veggies to a carpenter to build your house either.

The carpenter to build you house does not have to do something to acquire the wood, shingles, plumbing, electrical wiring and all the rest to build your house for his groceries. YOU CAN DO BETTER.

HUMAN is different from the animals because human can envision. I have had in fact 3 cats that have gotten a father fragment because they began to envision something beyond CAT. Leave out the Father Fragment though for this time, its not a thread on religion or cosmology.

Can you ones see no further ahead than working away your lives under the control of others? Can you not see your enslavement? I have never had a free day in my life on this world. NOT ONE. While I have "free time" to write here on GLP, I had to pay for the computer, and I have to pay for the electricity to run it, and most importantly I have to pay for the internet connection to get here.

And some pour soul likely earned next to nothing to bring me the expensive mac in the first place because the way international currency works. I have no idea who builds all the parts to a mac, then there is the shipping, packaging to ship and all that stuff that makes the world of apple go round.

I want to leave religion out of this, but I will not leave spirituality and some cosmology out of it. I have to make one statement, you are so missing out on the spirituality stuff, that you have bought the false heaven lie, which allows you to let yourself live as slaves, in hopes of a reward in heaven where you never have to work again, you can have parties with Jesus for eternity of trillions of years. Yes some of you do think that way, do not deny it.

Well guess what, Jesus has returned and he has worked his butt off for you since then. He worked his butt off finding places for you to go at the time this world is closed down and that is soon. Because you have destroyed your world and you have done so by allowing MONEY to be used to squelch your creative minds and reduce you to enslaved beings. And there are plenty of people who will post here that I am coo coo around this idea, they did already in the thread above and they have done so in the other threads on money.

I am NOT COO COO on this. Guess what, you will always work SOME in all of your life eternal. You will always live on planets of some sort. There is no heaven up in them their clouds to float in. Jesus LIVES on a planet except right now he lives on a CRAFT. Crafts are heaven people. You do not fly the friendly universe until you have earned the right to do so. The galactic wars are over and every race on every world must earn the right to fly or you stay on your prison world until you do. Work does NOT ever go away.

Your angels work, didn't that occur to you? Do they get paid digital credits or paper bills for it? NO.

In the friendly universe everyone GIFTS their skills. Period. Now enough for tonight, I will continue this tomorrow and see what's posted in it. You are going to learn to expand your consciousness, or you are going to stay as fools on fools planets. This was the teaching left out of your bible.

"Truly, I say to you, wisdom must be learned from the laws of Creation, which humans may recognize in nature. But if humans do not think and seek, they will not be able to attain wisdom and will remain fools.There is no higher happiness than wisdom, no better friend than knowledge, and no other saviour than the power of the spirit."


If you do not get that POWER of your SPIRIT up and running, you are moving to other stupid worlds full of fools. OK. Can I be any clearer of that one?

Now would someone help me out here and list all the shit you have to pay for in this life? To pay for your shit, (and you do pay sewer fees to your water company to process your shit, do you not, quite literally), you have to work hours almost beyond your endurance, and submit to enslavement. Every single person that is employed is a slave and every single employer manages slaves. PONDER THAT ONE FOR IT IS TRUTH. Good night. :peace on earth: (and you won't have peace either until the money goes away.)
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I hate money, I want to vomit thinking about what we have let it do to us. Good stuff op.
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money isnt bad its actually good
lets say in old days i have a cow and u want my cow but all u have to offer is lets say corn but i dont want ur corn so u go without a cow :(

next scenerio lets say we give something value that we all want lets call this item "money" so i have a cow and you have corn u want my cow but all u have u corn :( so u give ur corn to someone with money and now i want money because i can use it to buy something else other than corn with it so i accept the deal to trade my cow for your money

the only world that can live without money is a perfect one and humans arnt perfect
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I honestly couldn't agree more with OP's concept. Although its not the money thats the problem its our enduring enslavement to the materialistic paradigm that we lovingly embrace as a society and civilization. We love our "things", our useless shit that won't accompany us in the next plane nor help us get there. We are slaves to our own belief systems and capitalistic, consumer based, thought processes/mind programs. The truth is that the money we so desperatley desire is also the figurative double deadbolt lock on our cages and the bars of the cell itself. Unbeknownst to the general slave population we are the slave drivers and masters pushing our minds and bodies to the brink of incapacitation and/or insanity, locking ourselves in our own prisons every night, with the locks on the INSIDE of the doors facing us, & the keys around our necks; literally hanging us with fear of the unknown and uncertaintity in the result of necessary change.

Simply put money should only be a means of exchange.

The dollar bill does not say In God We Trust because we put our undying faith in God. No, it says In God We Trust as in In Money We Trust, i.e. money is your God. Just look at a dollar, read the print, and see how you feel. Do you feel as if you are proclaiming something about the money or your faith?spock

In a world where having stuff to show off so that you can attract a "mate"(woman) etc. isn't paramount and the physical, emotional, psychological, and spiritual(not religious) state and status of the people IS(paramount), peace reigns. In a world based in this mindset, with the stasis of the people being of the utmost importance, peace reigns over all lands; for the friction caused by turmoil in the human psyche has been thwarted and all the basic needs of said human are met. This type of society works because there is no question of whether or not we have enough resources it works on a system of DEMAND & SUPPLY. We have space which=food and an abundance of water on our planet that literally CANNOT escape our atmosphere=limitless supply, therefore the only question ever asked is how much is needed; and the the needs are met with the supplys(resources) that we have available to the the collective WHOLE.

The rest of the everyday B.S. that has been rooted in our culture as a people and planet are just luxuaries.
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Let us wait until we truly experience the oneness in each other and are able to see the other as yourself in another life and experience then how can you charge yourself when you help yourself? You do it because you help yourself attain the best and you get good feelings from that.

Another way is through technology. Scientists already know that material is energy in a specific state.
Wait till they find out how to manipulate all that infinite energy that surrounds us and create from seemingly thin air all the things we want by manipulating energy through technology.
Yes you could create gold and diamons as much as you want but when your neighbour can create it also what is the value of it? You can't eat it, you can show it off but the other can do that too.
Life will then be everything about abundance and not shortages. Gold and everything that has value now will become worthless.

So there are some scenarios which are not that hard to come up with when the fantasy goes a bit wild giving a few examples either through spirituallity or through technology.
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Money is just another form of communication. If you want to live without communicating with it , become a hermit or STFU.
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our currency should be love and compassion

bump and 5 to you op
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imagine a world where we didnt work for money, but for the pride and satisfaction of doing the work we did.

how many can honestly say the takey pride and satisfaction in theír work, its not even 50% of us, is my bet

if everything was free, would people still steal?
would people be more tempted to share an item that didnt have any "value" ?
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imagine a world where we didnt work for money, but for the pride and satisfaction of doing the work we did.

how many can honestly say the takey pride and satisfaction in theír work, its not even 50% of us, is my bet

if everything was free, would people still steal?
would people be more tempted to share an item that didnt have any "value" ?
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Hey notice how many of us Europeans on this thread? nice to see

Maybe we will set the trend in this too huh?

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money isnt bad its actually good
lets say in old days i have a cow and u want my cow but all u have to offer is lets say corn but i dont want ur corn so u go without a cow :(

next scenerio lets say we give something value that we all want lets call this item "money" so i have a cow and you have corn u want my cow but all u have u corn :( so u give ur corn to someone with money and now i want money because i can use it to buy something else other than corn with it so i accept the deal to trade my cow for your money

the only world that can live without money is a perfect one and humans arnt perfect
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Now put on your ability to envision and go beyond that, because global living without money is NOT confined to this very limited idea. You have just posted the mind control you have learned about money dear one! LOOK INWARD and UPWARD, because this is not even about money. HUMANS aren't perfect? Well then WHY NOT. You are supposed to be HIGHER UNIVERSAL MAN. Why cannot you have more, for that, by creating more. Don't you want a more perfect world? It is possible. Money will always produce have not enoughs. And depress the ability to create.

The worlds that give up money are not always "perfect" yet.

I would like to know what you do to earn your money by your slavery, that allows you to be able to EAT and have stuff. Engage more.
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I am all for it. Lets start by not paying our taxes. But people are cowards. They place their petty lives above principles. So they will pay the ultimate price in the end.
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Money is just another form of communication. If you want to live without communicating with it , become a hermit or STFU.
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What do YOU do for your "living." My amazing how people consider themselves to even be "living" on this world. MOST OF YOU DO NOT. We will have a world someday where people won't even have to "hermit", money or otherwise. Those that hermit in this world can't stand it. hmmm that would be ME! If I did not "hermit" I could not do what I do now, as hermiting is my method of staying out of the madness out there. be back in a bit, have morning stuff to finish.
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"and you won't have peace either until the money goes away." -OP


Truth!

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The other day I watched a BBC video about the life of the beaver, how they live in harmony within their environment, and even give shelter to other creatures during the winter months.

Why can't we live simply in harmony with our environment?
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Money is just another form of communication. If you want to live without communicating with it , become a hermit or STFU.
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It communicates your sweat equity into the hands of idle share holders. You should have swallowed the red pill.
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I'd like to know who the first psychopath was that invented money.
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The other day I watched a BBC video about the life of the beaver, how they live in harmony within their environment, and even give shelter to other creatures during the winter months.

Why can't we live simply in harmony with our environment?
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I saw a small news story about beavers that were felling so many trees that they were endangering their own enviroment. Overpopulated perhaps. Point is, beavers are just dumb animals.

An animal that acts opposite are squirrels, they hoard food for bad times and kill other animals that try to take their stash.
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Money is just another form of communication. If you want to live without communicating with it , become a hermit or STFU.
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It communicates your sweat equity into the hands of idle share holders. You should have swallowed the red pill.
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Right. You work for no personal gain. You receive nothing in return for your labor. No food, no shelter, no entertainment, no transportation. Nothing.
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I'd like to know who the first psychopath was that invented money.
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The first man that realized that trading goods was better than working as individuals with each person doing EVERYHING for himself. Or the first man that realized that using currency to facilitate those trades made things much more convenient.


Whoever it was was a genius
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I'd like to know who the first psychopath was that invented money.
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The first man that realized that trading goods was better than working as individuals with each person doing EVERYHING for himself. Or the first man that realized that using currency to facilitate those trades made things much more convenient.


Whoever it was was a genius
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I said money. People bartered before money and traded goods with no problem. Money has to be issued by somebody and that somebody owns everybody that uses the money. Indigenous people that do everything for themselves usually only work a few hours every day and spend the rest of the day and night lounging around and socializing. With money comes stress because you are working a whole lot longer than you are meant to be. The human being is capable of accomplishing great things in short bursts but not laboring all day for the rest of their life without having problems come up. With money comes war and kings. You can't pay soldiers in food and with war comes slaves.
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because you cant fit many goats and camels in a till when the new ipad comes out.
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Money is just another form of communication. If you want to live without communicating with it , become a hermit or STFU.
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It communicates your sweat equity into the hands of idle share holders. You should have swallowed the red pill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3271634


Right. You work for no personal gain. You receive nothing in return for your labor. No food, no shelter, no entertainment, no transportation. Nothing.
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Sarcasm appreciated. I trade labor on peoples homes for checks that I convert to lawful money with a non-endorsement of the FED. Real U.S. money that is not taxed. So I don't consent to the Fed./IRS system. As long as the paper is honored I'm fine. Get a trade. This thread is fueled by uneducated emotion.
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I'd like to know who the first psychopath was that invented money.
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The first man that realized that trading goods was better than working as individuals with each person doing EVERYHING for himself. Or the first man that realized that using currency to facilitate those trades made things much more convenient.


Whoever it was was a genius
 Quoting: Real list


I said money. People bartered before money and traded goods with no problem. Money has to be issued by somebody and that somebody owns everybody that uses the money. Indigenous people that do everything for themselves usually only work a few hours every day and spend the rest of the day and night lounging around and socializing. With money comes stress because you are working a whole lot longer than you are meant to be. The human being is capable of accomplishing great things in short bursts but not laboring all day for the rest of their life without having problems come up. With money comes war and kings. You can't pay soldiers in food and with war comes slaves.
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Yep, just look to people who live outside of our forced reality.

People who are not part of "modern society" dont use money. They hunt (food/supplies) for 2-8 hours. Then socialize, relax with family etc.

It can be done. It was done before. It is still being done.
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IT IS NOT THAT HARD PEOPLE. Some folks didn't like my butting into this thread this evening. Thread: What is the reason for money?

So lets just do it under my name and YOU butt into this one with VISION. Living without money does not need serfdom. And it does not mean going back to the hunter gatherer stage either, nor to an agrarian live. It does not mean you trade your organic back yard grown veggies to a carpenter to build your house either.

The carpenter to build you house does not have to do something to acquire the wood, shingles, plumbing, electrical wiring and all the rest to build your house for his groceries. YOU CAN DO BETTER.

HUMAN is different from the animals because human can envision. I have had in fact 3 cats that have gotten a father fragment because they began to envision something beyond CAT. Leave out the Father Fragment though for this time, its not a thread on religion or cosmology.

Can you ones see no further ahead than working away your lives under the control of others? Can you not see your enslavement? I have never had a free day in my life on this world. NOT ONE. While I have "free time" to write here on GLP, I had to pay for the computer, and I have to pay for the electricity to run it, and most importantly I have to pay for the internet connection to get here.

And some pour soul likely earned next to nothing to bring me the expensive mac in the first place because the way international currency works. I have no idea who builds all the parts to a mac, then there is the shipping, packaging to ship and all that stuff that makes the world of apple go round.

I want to leave religion out of this, but I will not leave spirituality and some cosmology out of it. I have to make one statement, you are so missing out on the spirituality stuff, that you have bought the false heaven lie, which allows you to let yourself live as slaves, in hopes of a reward in heaven where you never have to work again, you can have parties with Jesus for eternity of trillions of years. Yes some of you do think that way, do not deny it.

Well guess what, Jesus has returned and he has worked his butt off for you since then. He worked his butt off finding places for you to go at the time this world is closed down and that is soon. Because you have destroyed your world and you have done so by allowing MONEY to be used to squelch your creative minds and reduce you to enslaved beings. And there are plenty of people who will post here that I am coo coo around this idea, they did already in the thread above and they have done so in the other threads on money.

I am NOT COO COO on this. Guess what, you will always work SOME in all of your life eternal. You will always live on planets of some sort. There is no heaven up in them their clouds to float in. Jesus LIVES on a planet except right now he lives on a CRAFT. Crafts are heaven people. You do not fly the friendly universe until you have earned the right to do so. The galactic wars are over and every race on every world must earn the right to fly or you stay on your prison world until you do. Work does NOt every go away.

Your angel work, didn't that occur to you? Do they get paid digital credits or paper bills for it? NO.

In the friendly universe everyone GIFTS their skills. Period. Now enough for tonight, I will continue this tomorrow and see what's posted in it. You are going to learn to expand your consciousness, or you are going to stay as fools on fools planets. This was the teaching left out of your bible.

"Truly, I say to you, wisdom must be learned from the laws of Creation, which humans may recognize in nature. But if humans do not think and seek, they will not be able to attain wisdom and will remain fools.There is no higher happiness than wisdom, no better friend than knowledge, and no other saviour than the power of the spirit."


If you do not get that POWER of your SPIRIT up and running, you are moving to other stupid worlds full of fools. OK. Can I be any clearer of that one?

Now would someone help me out here and list all the shit you have to pay for in this life? To pay for your shit, (and you do pay sewer fees to your water company to process your shit, do you not, quite litterally), you have to work hours almost beyond your endurance, and submit to enslavement. Every single person that is employed is a slave and every single employer manages slaves. PONDER THAT ONE FOR IT IS TRUTH. Good night. peace on earth (and you won't have peace either until the money goes away.)
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


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Let's abolish currency on Earth. Let's Love each other and help each other. Let's honor our animals and children. Let women have the reign. Let's brainstorm what to do with Humans who harm AND let's tear down the jails. Let's play in the rivers and let our laughter echo through the canyon walls. Let us be FREE, please let us choose Freedom. Peace and Love--Dawn.flowergrouphugflower

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Nice thread.
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Thread: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul
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something like 13 people rated 5 stars

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