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Tango
(OP) User ID: 6394654 France 12/14/2011 01:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok so....it's the real vid posted on the irna site...clips from it anyway...however...it's just speeded up to mask the chick commentators voice...it's also got big chunks gone that I can hear the women say "Carter"...then in the original?....they show Jimmy Carter...so I'm going with hoax as far as the Iranians trying to palm this off as a video of them landing anything...maybe some youtube retard fuckin with people...or maybe some youtube propgandist..... Quoting: SHR Watch the beginning of both vids side by side...you'll see what I mean.....see if I can find the original on yt and load them both up here... Orig on the front page.. [link to film.irna.ir] Hoaxed youtube... [link to www.youtube.com] Misunderstood me, I totally agree with your assessment of the video coverage, I watched them both side by side. My question is do you think the drone just crashed and they recover wrecked parts of it? I do not think they even shot it down, I was just asking your opinion on what you thought. I've written a few replies on this and they're around somewhere...buried I'm sure as GLP moves so fast...my opinion?.... This whole drone got lost thing REEKS... First of all this type of equipment has a load of redundancy, encrypted signal...it's very secure..albeit a single engine aircraft. So the odds of Mechanical issues causing them to just lose command and control of it is extremely low... If it did have mechanical problems?...there is more than one self destruct...one is going to fry it's guts and it'll crash more or less a toaster oven with wings...nothing worth much left...if it would even land which is also against extreme odds because another self destruct would physically blow it up...they have both...and probably more that isn't as easily known. Even if it could land intact which the odds get higher and higher of against?...the Iranians far more likely than not wouldn't even know it did, wouldn't even know it was in their air space...the radar cross signature is virtually zip....likely smaller than a bird bout the size of crow..or even less...we have very good stealth as far as radar goes and we've been flying these over Iran for years...they've never got a lock on one. So for me...the odds are too high against this happening the way they claim. No way would our guys let the thing land in enemy territory even near intact under normal operating circumstances. The Iranians don't have the ability to commandeer one of these...if anyone does..well that's a brand new ability that we didn't know about until just now...and it's not something Iran is up to speed for... So not many solutions left... Sabotage and or treason by our operator(s) or people with access. The Russians or Chinese are behind taking it and used Iran to facilitate it. It was a backdoor clandestine "deal" and this was the delivery method....also treason. No way did Iran do jack fuckin squat to this aircraft that enabled it to land even near intact. Last and least likely possible is that somehow Iran found out we lost a drone and they made a faker mockup to put on a show...but our people have confirmed that what they have put up is indeed a real drone...there's not a good enough reason for us and them to produce a faked situation of this level...if we wanted to fake something up we'd make it worth it...this ain't a FF if that's what people are thinking...because if were going to do that?...it'd be a far more provocative one and it'd be on like Donkey Kong already.... ..this may actually be worse as far as dark deals go...and we may never know what really happened here...but I'm convinced what we are being told is utter bullshit. You brought out some points that I was thinking, but had not been following up on enough information on the drone info lately. Made it even harder to try to keep track of the info because of the multiple stories that were coming out on it. I know from what I was reading that we had been flying surveillance drones from bases surrounding Iran for quite a long time as you said, Nothing has stopped any of the fly overs before. If you look at the drone Rc planes that Iran had manufactured, they are hilarious to look at, no way they would have the capability without assistance from other countries. I agree, if anything was possible, it would have been because of Russia or China assisted the situation. |
RoXY
User ID: 1507539 Netherlands 12/14/2011 01:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | America's Drone Wars: Drone ‘beast’ captured in Iran – others rampage in Afghanistan and Gaza Global Research / dronewarsuk.wordpress.com December 10, 2011 There has been intense media coverage of the downing of a US drone in Iran over the past week. Iran has previously claimed that it has shot down ‘Western drones’ (as we reported here) but they have never provided proof despite saying they would. Initially the US denied any of their drone had been downed and then said that the drone may have been one lost in Afghanistan previously. Within days however the CIA was saying – through the usual ‘unnamed sources’ – that it was one of their drones that had crashed inside Iran. The drone concerned is a RQ-170 Sentinel. It was dubbed the ‘Beast of Kandahar’ when the then unknown drone was first spotted by the press in 2007 and 2009. It’s existence was officially confirmed – and its name officially revealed – in late 2009. However little detail about the drone has been revealed. All that is known about the drone is that it is stealthy, jet powered and unarmed. CONTINUE AT: [link to globalresearch.ca] Fabulous tracks (1988-2013) [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Pure Happiness Thread: FEEL GOOD !!! # FOUR (4) - & more - MINUTES of PURE HAPPINESS !!! # (Videos) Good Food Thread: MONSANTO # (GMO) FOOD 4 THOUGHT - Know What You Eat # (Ongoing Videos & Articles) Watch This! Thread: WATCH THIS !!! # An Ongoing, Carefully Selected Collection of MUST SEE VIDEOS Big Brother Thread: BIG BROTHER in the age of INTERNET # (Ongoing - Links, Articles & Videos) Economy Thread: THE ECONOMY & YOU # (Daily Updated Videos & Articles) UFOs Thread: UFO PHOTOS (1200+) # World UFO Photo Gallery + Ongoing Links, Articles & Videos The Better You Look, The More You See... Educate Yourself! |
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Tango
(OP) User ID: 6394654 France 12/14/2011 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | America's Drone Wars: Drone ‘beast’ captured in Iran – others rampage in Afghanistan and Gaza Quoting: RoXY Global Research / dronewarsuk.wordpress.com December 10, 2011 There has been intense media coverage of the downing of a US drone in Iran over the past week. Iran has previously claimed that it has shot down ‘Western drones’ (as we reported here) but they have never provided proof despite saying they would. Initially the US denied any of their drone had been downed and then said that the drone may have been one lost in Afghanistan previously. Within days however the CIA was saying – through the usual ‘unnamed sources’ – that it was one of their drones that had crashed inside Iran. The drone concerned is a RQ-170 Sentinel. It was dubbed the ‘Beast of Kandahar’ when the then unknown drone was first spotted by the press in 2007 and 2009. It’s existence was officially confirmed – and its name officially revealed – in late 2009. However little detail about the drone has been revealed. All that is known about the drone is that it is stealthy, jet powered and unarmed. CONTINUE AT: [link to globalresearch.ca] Thanks for the link... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1457794 United States 12/14/2011 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sorry for my ignorance but um why does both videos having the same thing in them prove this is fake? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6849048 Iranian video has the same exact blue building with the same exact white tower as the skunkworks (American) video does. If you look at it, the iranians pulled the landing clip from the skunkworks video and edited into their video. How do you know the first video is actually claimed to be from Iran? Did they make a public statement with this footage, or is it something some random youtuber put together, and said it was from Iran? |
Tango
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Tango
(OP) User ID: 6394654 France 12/14/2011 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sorry for my ignorance but um why does both videos having the same thing in them prove this is fake? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6849048 Iranian video has the same exact blue building with the same exact white tower as the skunkworks (American) video does. If you look at it, the iranians pulled the landing clip from the skunkworks video and edited into their video. How do you know the first video is actually claimed to be from Iran? Did they make a public statement with this footage, or is it something some random youtuber put together, and said it was from Iran? [link to film.irna.ir] credit to Shr for finding this video. |
SHR
Forum Administrator 12/14/2011 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The pictures of the drone Iran put out doesn't look right to me. The air intake doesn't look right compared to some other pictures of the drone. Irans drone looks like a cheap fiberglass copy. Quoting: zzbudzz Not too many real photos are out there...looks like it to me...and I am also leaning to the tanish color being a false color factor in their video...the real color is actually grayish. Couple real photos here... [link to www.flightglobal.com] [link to www.defenceaviation.com] Last Edited by SHR on 12/14/2011 01:38 AM ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1457794 United States 12/14/2011 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sorry for my ignorance but um why does both videos having the same thing in them prove this is fake? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6849048 Iranian video has the same exact blue building with the same exact white tower as the skunkworks (American) video does. If you look at it, the iranians pulled the landing clip from the skunkworks video and edited into their video. How do you know the first video is actually claimed to be from Iran? Did they make a public statement with this footage, or is it something some random youtuber put together, and said it was from Iran? [link to film.irna.ir] credit to Shr for finding this video. Ok, thanks for clearing that up. |
SeenThaFiend
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Tango
(OP) User ID: 6394654 France 12/14/2011 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Tango Iranian video has the same exact blue building with the same exact white tower as the skunkworks (American) video does. If you look at it, the iranians pulled the landing clip from the skunkworks video and edited into their video. How do you know the first video is actually claimed to be from Iran? Did they make a public statement with this footage, or is it something some random youtuber put together, and said it was from Iran? [link to film.irna.ir] credit to Shr for finding this video. Ok, thanks for clearing that up. your welcome. |
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SeenThaFiend
User ID: 6980086 United States 12/14/2011 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The pictures of the drone Iran put out doesn't look right to me. The air intake doesn't look right compared to some other pictures of the drone. Irans drone looks like a cheap fiberglass copy. Quoting: zzbudzz Not too many real photos are out there...looks like it to me...and I am also leaning to the tanish color being a false color factor in their video...the real color is actually grayish. Couple real photos here... [link to www.flightglobal.com] [link to www.defenceaviation.com] [link to aviationintel.com] This guy has a thorough piece saying the pictures show an authentic r170, whatever model, drone. This was an analysis of the video before the drone landing. But his analysis gets blasted when the "landing" video comes out, lol. This sure is interesting... Red Arrow- In these two photos (one the original, the other a closeup crop of it) we see what is undoubtedly the largest area of trauma on the RQ-170. It looks as if the wings either broke off, were sawed off, or if this is a fake they were made crudely and separately, so they just put tape and epoxy over the ill-fitting joints. If the wings broke off during a hard landing it may have been do to a weak point in that area where the carbon fiber fuselage was attached to the carbon fiber wings. This would make sense as it would allow for wing flex and transportation. This would also jive with large component, low volume modular construction and rapid prototyping and production techniques (more about this later). Alternatively, the Iranians very well could have been sawed off the wings in order to transport the aircraft as fast as possible away from the crash site, as the Iranians are knowingly paranoid of being watched at all times via the air (for good reason right?!). Further, they would have known that there would very well be a cruise missile or even an assault force headed their way. In such a case why not just saw the wings off and get it out of crash area? |
RoXY
User ID: 1507539 Netherlands 12/14/2011 01:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not joyriding though... Fabulous tracks (1988-2013) [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Pure Happiness Thread: FEEL GOOD !!! # FOUR (4) - & more - MINUTES of PURE HAPPINESS !!! # (Videos) Good Food Thread: MONSANTO # (GMO) FOOD 4 THOUGHT - Know What You Eat # (Ongoing Videos & Articles) Watch This! Thread: WATCH THIS !!! # An Ongoing, Carefully Selected Collection of MUST SEE VIDEOS Big Brother Thread: BIG BROTHER in the age of INTERNET # (Ongoing - Links, Articles & Videos) Economy Thread: THE ECONOMY & YOU # (Daily Updated Videos & Articles) UFOs Thread: UFO PHOTOS (1200+) # World UFO Photo Gallery + Ongoing Links, Articles & Videos The Better You Look, The More You See... Educate Yourself! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1445810 Canada 12/14/2011 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think i pushed the unpin button by mistake,, If someone could fix that for me,, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5694208 Sorry man. :whoaaadood: There's a rumor (I'm pretty sure it's true) that when someone clicks on the pin/unpin button, lights automatically starts flashing in the homes of all the mods until one of them tends to it. Seems a little intrusive to me but nevertheless, I must say that I was impressed. |
RoXY
User ID: 1507539 Netherlands 12/14/2011 02:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By Justin Fishel & Jennifer Griffin December 13, 2011 Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, in an exclusive interview with Fox News, said that the stealth drone campaign along the Iran-Afghanistan border will "absolutely" continue despite the loss of a valuable and sophisticated drone to Iran. Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com] Fabulous tracks (1988-2013) [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Pure Happiness Thread: FEEL GOOD !!! # FOUR (4) - & more - MINUTES of PURE HAPPINESS !!! # (Videos) Good Food Thread: MONSANTO # (GMO) FOOD 4 THOUGHT - Know What You Eat # (Ongoing Videos & Articles) Watch This! Thread: WATCH THIS !!! # An Ongoing, Carefully Selected Collection of MUST SEE VIDEOS Big Brother Thread: BIG BROTHER in the age of INTERNET # (Ongoing - Links, Articles & Videos) Economy Thread: THE ECONOMY & YOU # (Daily Updated Videos & Articles) UFOs Thread: UFO PHOTOS (1200+) # World UFO Photo Gallery + Ongoing Links, Articles & Videos The Better You Look, The More You See... Educate Yourself! |
Tango
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SeenThaFiend
User ID: 6980086 United States 12/14/2011 02:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a picture before the release of the landing video. It shows 'wings' that look to have been re-attached. This is all very strange. In the main article for this picture, the author makes a good case for the reasons of the damage in a semi-controlled crash, for lack of better words due to my tired brain. Saying they could of sawed the wings off to carry it off faster, blah blah. The scenarios no longer fit when a controlled landing is 'confirmed'. So, on a small scale, it looks like someone realized the first images wouldn't pass analysis. So, WALAH, show everyone a landing video and all is fixed! Yay! IMO, thanks to this thread, I don't think there is evidence of Iran hacking and controlling a US drone. [link to aviationintel.com] Last Edited by SeenThaFiend on 12/14/2011 02:13 AM |
Tango
(OP) User ID: 6394654 France 12/14/2011 02:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a picture before the release of the landing video. It shows 'wings' that look to have been re-attached. This is all very strange. Quoting: SeenThaFiend [link to aviationintel.com] Thanks for the link, that is a real clear picture. |
RoXY
User ID: 1507539 Netherlands 12/14/2011 02:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a picture before the release of the landing video. It shows 'wings' that look to have been re-attached. This is all very strange. Quoting: SeenThaFiend [link to aviationintel.com] Thread: NOT BREAKING # UFO or Navy Drone escorted near Oklahoma State Line (VIDEO) NB: A drone without wings... Last Edited by RoXY on 12/14/2011 02:13 AM Fabulous tracks (1988-2013) [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Pure Happiness Thread: FEEL GOOD !!! # FOUR (4) - & more - MINUTES of PURE HAPPINESS !!! # (Videos) Good Food Thread: MONSANTO # (GMO) FOOD 4 THOUGHT - Know What You Eat # (Ongoing Videos & Articles) Watch This! Thread: WATCH THIS !!! # An Ongoing, Carefully Selected Collection of MUST SEE VIDEOS Big Brother Thread: BIG BROTHER in the age of INTERNET # (Ongoing - Links, Articles & Videos) Economy Thread: THE ECONOMY & YOU # (Daily Updated Videos & Articles) UFOs Thread: UFO PHOTOS (1200+) # World UFO Photo Gallery + Ongoing Links, Articles & Videos The Better You Look, The More You See... Educate Yourself! |
Tango
(OP) User ID: 6394654 France 12/14/2011 02:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a picture before the release of the landing video. It shows 'wings' that look to have been re-attached. This is all very strange. Quoting: SeenThaFiend [link to aviationintel.com] Thread: NOT BREAKING # UFO or Navy Drone escorted near Oklahoma State Line (VIDEO) NB: A drone without wings... Wow, where did you find that video? Shipping that in broad daylight. |
SeenThaFiend
User ID: 6980086 United States 12/14/2011 02:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a picture before the release of the landing video. It shows 'wings' that look to have been re-attached. This is all very strange. Quoting: SeenThaFiend [link to aviationintel.com] Thanks for the link, that is a real clear picture. Thanks for the thread. I love these detective-like threads, hehe. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7041226 Croatia 12/14/2011 02:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a picture before the release of the landing video. It shows 'wings' that look to have been re-attached. This is all very strange. Quoting: SeenThaFiend [link to aviationintel.com] Thread: NOT BREAKING # UFO or Navy Drone escorted near Oklahoma State Line (VIDEO) NB: A drone without wings... same drone video: |
ScrumpTheTexan
Forum Administrator User ID: 2691183 United States 12/14/2011 02:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a picture before the release of the landing video. It shows 'wings' that look to have been re-attached. This is all very strange. Quoting: SeenThaFiend [link to aviationintel.com] Thread: NOT BREAKING # UFO or Navy Drone escorted near Oklahoma State Line (VIDEO) NB: A drone without wings... That's an X-47B. [link to www.as.northropgrumman.com] I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Tango
(OP) User ID: 6394654 France 12/14/2011 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a picture before the release of the landing video. It shows 'wings' that look to have been re-attached. This is all very strange. Quoting: SeenThaFiend [link to aviationintel.com] Thread: NOT BREAKING # UFO or Navy Drone escorted near Oklahoma State Line (VIDEO) NB: A drone without wings... That's an X-47B. [link to www.as.northropgrumman.com] Thanks for the info Scrump. I did not even know about this one. |
RoXY
User ID: 1507539 Netherlands 12/14/2011 02:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Iranian TV Shows U.S. Stealth Spy Drone Fabulous tracks (1988-2013) [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Pure Happiness Thread: FEEL GOOD !!! # FOUR (4) - & more - MINUTES of PURE HAPPINESS !!! # (Videos) Good Food Thread: MONSANTO # (GMO) FOOD 4 THOUGHT - Know What You Eat # (Ongoing Videos & Articles) Watch This! Thread: WATCH THIS !!! # An Ongoing, Carefully Selected Collection of MUST SEE VIDEOS Big Brother Thread: BIG BROTHER in the age of INTERNET # (Ongoing - Links, Articles & Videos) Economy Thread: THE ECONOMY & YOU # (Daily Updated Videos & Articles) UFOs Thread: UFO PHOTOS (1200+) # World UFO Photo Gallery + Ongoing Links, Articles & Videos The Better You Look, The More You See... Educate Yourself! |
ScrumpTheTexan
Forum Administrator User ID: 2691183 United States 12/14/2011 02:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a picture before the release of the landing video. It shows 'wings' that look to have been re-attached. This is all very strange. Quoting: SeenThaFiend [link to aviationintel.com] Thread: NOT BREAKING # UFO or Navy Drone escorted near Oklahoma State Line (VIDEO) NB: A drone without wings... That's an X-47B. [link to www.as.northropgrumman.com] Thanks for the info Scrump. I did not even know about this one. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
SHR
Forum Administrator 12/14/2011 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good review of the photos and stills by these guys at the aviation intel site...worth reading... [link to aviationintel.com] ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |