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NW DOOM Japan Tsunami Debris Has officially reached America. Via Pacific drift.

 
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First Japan debris hits US, Canada — People warned about radiation — Police told to have Geiger counters — “Bodies will likely begin washing up in about a year”

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The first piece of debris that could be identified as washing up on the West Coast from the March 11 tsunami in Japan — a large black float — was found on a Neah Bay beach two weeks ago, Seattle oceanographers Curtis Ebbesmeyer and Jim Ingraham said Tuesday night.

Since then, the two researchers have learned that the black, 55-gallon drum-sized floats also have been found on Vancouver Island.
Ebbesmeyer on Debris Threat

About a quarter of the 100 million tons of debris from Japan is expected to make landfall on beaches from southern Alaska to California
Possibly in volumes large enough to clog ports
Flotsam in a current travels an average of seven miles per hour
can move as much as 20 mph if it has a large area exposed to the wind
Many of those bodies and parts of bodies will likely begin washing up in about a year
Large items still in the water should be reported to the Coast Guard, as they may represent a hazard to boats and ships
Some shipping lanes have already been rerouted to avoid the worst of the debris
Ebbesmeyer on Radiation Contamination Threat

People should also be aware of the possibility of radiation contamination
The Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant leaked a large amount of radiation into the water
no one knows what levels of contamination there are in the currents, and the
[no one knows what levels of contamination there are in] items being carried in those currents
[Suggests] local police take steps to have sensitive Geiger counters available to scan items
The event was unprecedented, and no one knows yet what levels of radiation, if any, items have picked up

Ebbesmeyer on Importance of Debris to Japanese

“All debris should be treated with a great reverence and respect”
Families in Japan are waiting to hear of any items that may have been associated with their loved ones
May travel to the U.S. to meet those who found these mementos
Rafts of debris include whole houses which may still contain many personal items
Japanese are known for storing important personal mementos in walls
Even the smallest of traceable items may be the only thing associated with one of those people who were lost
Contact Ebbesmeyer at [email protected] for assistance
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I can see how debris would survive a year-long trip across the Pacific and reach the shores of the U.S... but I am not as sure about "bodies" washing up. I'd imagine sharks and every other fish out there would devour the bodies and what wasn't eaten by animals would sink to the ocean floor. Could be wrong... hope I'm right because that'd be horrible to come across a radioactive, decaying corpse on the beach..
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I can see how debris would survive a year-long trip across the Pacific and reach the shores of the U.S... but I am not as sure about "bodies" washing up. I'd imagine sharks and every other fish out there would devour the bodies and what wasn't eaten by animals would sink to the ocean floor. Could be wrong... hope I'm right because that'd be horrible to come across a radioactive, decaying corpse on the beach..
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Life raft effect.

bodies could have easily been preserved inside cars, houses boats, ect.
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I can see how debris would survive a year-long trip across the Pacific and reach the shores of the U.S... but I am not as sure about "bodies" washing up. I'd imagine sharks and every other fish out there would devour the bodies and what wasn't eaten by animals would sink to the ocean floor. Could be wrong... hope I'm right because that'd be horrible to come across a radioactive, decaying corpse on the beach..
 Quoting: Roentgen®


Life raft effect.

bodies could have easily been preserved inside cars, houses boats, ect.
 Quoting: Tacomagroove


That's a good point... never considered those that were washed out to sea in what essentially became their "coffins."
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INVOICE -TO BE BILLED TO JAPAN

-cleanup of radioactive debris
-penalty for destruction of human habitat(earth)
-penalty for general inhumanity towards citizens



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Debris from Japan Tsunami Starting to Wash Ashore in Tofino:
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No mention of radioactivity.
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I can see how debris would survive a year-long trip across the Pacific and reach the shores of the U.S... but I am not as sure about "bodies" washing up. I'd imagine sharks and every other fish out there would devour the bodies and what wasn't eaten by animals would sink to the ocean floor. Could be wrong... hope I'm right because that'd be horrible to come across a radioactive, decaying corpse on the beach..
 Quoting: Roentgen®


Life raft effect.

bodies could have easily been preserved inside cars, houses boats, ect.
 Quoting: Tacomagroove


That's a good point... never considered those that were washed out to sea in what essentially became their "coffins."
 Quoting: Roentgen®


The real threat is that all the debris is potentially contaminated with radio-nuclides.

The levels of contamination could even worse so; be potentially deadly.

The problem is the reactor 3 sfp had been ejected into the atmosphere where the main proportions of fallout moved up and east Into the pacific ocean.

The main masses of nuclear fuel, cement, and dust particles; that were ejected during the Reactor 3 hydro-nuclear explosion were distributed into the pacific drift current system in a small particulate form.

These particulates numbering in the trillions are equal to trillions of potential overdoses of radiation to the human body. That is not an understatement, There was a potential for several apocalypses, released from the reactor 3 spent fuel pool alone...

One thing to consider when reviewing these reports, is that small masses have yet to be reported, as Larger objects in the debris field, have already been reported on the United States mainland.

The particulate that I am speaking of is the radiation its self. It is a small mass, that weighs less than salt water. The weight ratio suggests that the substance is buoyant.

So what we are looking at is a preposterous amount of radionuclides, (amounting to several full-on human apocalypses); Moving in a vast concentrated pool of debris; Steadily, inching its way to the United States and Canadian west coastlines...

My main concern is that the debris field its self is highly contaminated.

Further more, rain and storm systems on the US, and Canadian coast lines, are created through evaporation of the coastal waters.

So each and every pacific rain out; is a proportion of that very same surface water, interacting with the cloud layer, to only again become fallout on United States citizens.

This is a very real threat to all united states citizens, who live near coastal communities.
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INVOICE -TO BE BILLED TO JAPAN

-cleanup of radioactive debris
-penalty for destruction of human habitat(earth)
-penalty for general inhumanity towards citizens



The cost? TBD.
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Yes.

Our world leaders are not going to admit to any knowledge of radioactivity. This is due to two main reasons.

1. The state of the economy. ( mainly foreign investments would halt upon the admittance of the united states being a radioactive wasteland).

2. Criminal omission. (Stating that the government had known what they knew prior to these incidence taking place, would hold the parties criminally liable).
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Debris from Japan Tsunami Starting to Wash Ashore in Tofino:
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No mention of radioactivity.
 Quoting: Princess Dagmar




Yes.

Our world leaders are not going to admit to any knowledge of radioactivity. This is due to two main reasons.

1. The state of the economy. ( mainly foreign investments would halt upon the admittance of the united states being a radioactive wasteland).

2. Criminal omission. (Stating that the government had known what they knew prior to these incidence taking place, would hold the parties criminally liable).
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For the most part, the "debris" was washed out to sea before the meltdowns occured. I think radiation from the debris will be minimal, at least early on. IMHO
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For the most part, the "debris" was washed out to sea before the meltdowns occured. I think radiation from the debris will be minimal, at least early on. IMHO
 Quoting: UndisclosedScource


It already is minimal early on....

What is minimal in regards to +1000year fallout? that kills at 1,000,000 per millionth gram by volume?

Please do not ignore the truth that is right in front of your nose... Its time you woke up to the dangers that have been inching their way towards your families, and friends...

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For the most part, the "debris" was washed out to sea before the meltdowns occured. I think radiation from the debris will be minimal, at least early on. IMHO
 Quoting: UndisclosedScource


It already is minimal early on....

What is minimal in regards to +1000year fallout? that kills at 1,000,000 per millionth gram by volume?

Please do not ignore the truth that is right in front of your nose... Its time you woke up to the dangers that have been inching their way towards your families, and friends...

Quote Breakfastclub...
What if your weed was on fire?
 Quoting: Tacomagroove


The main point of my quote above.

All crops are fed by our rain systems.
All humans eat this same product.

1+1=0
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For the most part, the "debris" was washed out to sea before the meltdowns occured. I think radiation from the debris will be minimal, at least early on. IMHO
 Quoting: UndisclosedScource


It already is minimal early on....

What is minimal in regards to +1000year fallout? that kills at 1,000,000 per millionth gram by volume?

Please do not ignore the truth that is right in front of your nose... Its time you woke up to the dangers that have been inching their way towards your families, and friends...

Quote Breakfastclub...
What if your weed was on fire?
 Quoting: Tacomagroove


The main point of my quote above.

All crops are fed by our rain systems.
All humans eat this same product.

1+1=0
 Quoting: Tacomagroove


I'm not making a statement about the TOTAL amount of radiation here in the US from Fukishima. I am as concerned about it as we all should be. We are in agreement about that. In my post, I mearly point out the fact that the debris from the Tsunami was on it's way out to sea, before the meltdowns occured. Hence the radiationon on it /in it, will be minimal.

Last Edited by UndisclosedScource on 12/15/2011 01:05 PM
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This is going to make a day at the beach interesting. Wear your dosimeters, people.
And you thought UV sunburn was unhealthy.
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Does anyone know if there are any new updates on the alaskan sea populations latest dieoffs?
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