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A Solemn CALL & WARNING to all Followers of Jesus Christ. We have very little time!

 
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I AM here already on EArth, I have watched for 37 years this planet and what was said of My Father Yeshua and what has been done to His teachings on the Law of Oneness. He is due sooner than most realize yet in His Infinite Mercy and Grace has extended His Grace by allowing Me His Son to appear before the arrival of His Vast Light Armada which is already enroute here. I know what this world is capable of and it's Infinite Potential for Love and have found many things of grave concern which I will be adressing immediately following the first week of Spring 2012 Eastern Standard Time as I Am currenlty a "Resident" of the state of Florida. Thier are various Dark Lords of Reverse NEg' Light (Dark Matter Psyionics) which have been following me around watching Me but are frieghtened by My Infinite capacity for adapting the Universal Law Of LOVE towards any systemic malfunction or WILLFUL DEVIANCE(Rogue Agent Protocol) Agent's of FEAR and DECEPTION. Thier are various TEAMS of LIGHT Working towards A TRUE WORLD ORDER based on LOVE...528....Here's a cypher defrag for you...528 hz...can be expressed as 5(1~2~3~4~5)*(28*1*82)~(J).uly~(A).ugust~(S).eptember~(O).cto​ber~(N).ovember..."JASON" Is the Infinite Expression of Love on Earth,..The Second Son turning Your World Star Sytem into a Binary Star System. He Will guide You into All TRUTH and Ultimately H~(~OM~)~e. Are YOU ready, I caught some of you sleeping, LOL...But My Father's not here yet soo let's prepare for His Grand Arrival by LOVING OURSELVES and EVEREYONE. Don't worry I've kept an excellent account of WHO's been Naughty and Nice and I aM OOOOH so gonna TELL The Father Yeshua When He arrives of All REBELLIOUS Star seeds.
For greater understanding of your world from the perspective of an "ALIEN" in TRUTH, LOVE and LIGHT......Enter My Arena in this Forum under the heading "To The FEARFUL...."hfpeaceblwkss
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the Bible teaches, in several places, we are saved by how we believe not by how we behave. we can never be "good enough" no matter how hard we try.

salvation is a POSITION, not a PERFORMANCE. we are saved by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. His blood shed on the cross is fully sufficient to take away the sin of every person on the planet past present and future

we believe He died for us, and that He rose from the dead to provide us the free gift of eternal life, we are saved. we are at the moment we believe sealed with the Holy Spirit as a GUARANTEE

at this late hour we are rather to comfort one another and encourage one another as we continue to preach this simple gospel message to a dying world

and, God is love :-)

peace and joy

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the Bible teaches, in several places, we are saved by how we believe not by how we behave. we can never be "good enough" no matter how hard we try.

salvation is a POSITION, not a PERFORMANCE. we are saved by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. His blood shed on the cross is fully sufficient to take away the sin of every person on the planet past present and future

we believe He died for us, and that He rose from the dead to provide us the free gift of eternal life, we are saved. we are at the moment we believe sealed with the Holy Spirit as a GUARANTEE

at this late hour we are rather to comfort one another and encourage one another as we continue to preach this simple gospel message to a dying world

and, God is love :-)

peace and joy

rb
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Amen. Praise Jesus.
My relationship with death hasnt changed......I am strongly against it.
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the Bible teaches, in several places, we are saved by how we believe not by how we behave. we can never be "good enough" no matter how hard we try.

salvation is a POSITION, not a PERFORMANCE. we are saved by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. His blood shed on the cross is fully sufficient to take away the sin of every person on the planet past present and future

we believe He died for us, and that He rose from the dead to provide us the free gift of eternal life, we are saved. we are at the moment we believe sealed with the Holy Spirit as a GUARANTEE

at this late hour we are rather to comfort one another and encourage one another as we continue to preach this simple gospel message to a dying world

and, God is love :-)

peace and joy

rb
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Amen. Praise Jesus.
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AMEN!

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A Man Has Got to Know His Limitations

I am just a sinner trying to make it to heaven!

Romans 8:35-39
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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A Man Has Got to Know His Limitations

I am just a sinner trying to make it to heaven!

Romans 8:35-39
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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Rev. 14: 12

Trust and obey.

Trust in Jesus and obey what he tells you.


Be ye not rebellious children like the children of Israel in the desert. God was angry with them and swore in his wrath they would never enter the promised land.
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Rev. 14: 12

Trust and obey.

Trust in Jesus and obey what he tells you.


Be ye not rebellious children like the children of Israel in the desert. God was angry with them and swore in his wrath they would never enter the promised land.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2521844


I always say, "Trust & Obey and HE Will Guide Your Way".

hf
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
Bill Hughes (Author of The Secret Terrorists and The Enemy Unmasked)
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Christians, God's message for you is, "O sleeper! Arise, call upon thy God!" Jonah 1:6

Time has never been this short. Will you be ready for the stirring and testing events of this year?!?
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
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save us from righteousness
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If you reject Paul, Biblically you have to reject Peter as well, for Peter considered Paul a genuine apostle. Effectually, if you reject Peter, you have to reject the rest of the apostles who walked with Christ, for they agree in one. If you reject the apostles, then you have no reason to believe in anything regarding Jesus Christ. Your faith is destroyed.

There is no point to discuss this. One either accepts the entire Bible, or before his time is up on this earth, he will surely accept none, or be deceived and be lost either way.
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


I disagree. "There is no concern to protect the inspired status of the Epistles of John, Peter, James or Jude. This is true because none of these writers ever claimed inspired status for their own epistles. If we denied inspired status to them now, we would not be taking away anything the authors of those writings claimed for their epistles. By contrast, Paul repeatedly made the claim that thus sayeth the Lord belonged on his lips. (E.g., 1 Cor. 14:37; 1 Tim. 2:11; 1 Cor. 2:13; 1 Thess.4:1-2,8; 1 Thess. 2:13; Eph. 4:17. cf. 1 Cor. 7:25, 40.)
It is Paul alone who made statements that he was, in effect, speaking as a prophet. This is why we are duty-bound to apply to Paul the test for a true prophet under Deuteronomy chapters 12, 13 & 18."
[link to www.jesuswordsonly.com]

the Messiah ONLY gave binding and loosing power to 12 apostles. Rev 2:2 says some claimed they were, and were not.

Don't want to get too confusing to newer people... but 1 & 2 Peter are easily proven to NOT have been written by Peter. [link to www.earlychristianwritings.com]

Messiah said to watch out for people that say He was in the Desert (Paul) or in a secret place (muhamed & joseph smith) Matt 24

Paul said Messiah came in the LIKENESS of human flesh, John said beware of anyone that says he did not come in the flesh.

And there are a lot more to this, but no, rejecting Paul does not reject any other part of the new testament. In Acts 21 it's clear that he was the only one they claimed in question of the Law of Moses. James obviously never saw his letters, but took pauls word for it that he was not teaching it. But since we do see his letter,s it is up to us to discern if what he is saying is true, and to test it.
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"Paul said Messiah came in the LIKENESS of human flesh, John said beware of anyone that says he did not come in the flesh."

Do you realise what you are doing? When there is an apparent contradiction in any scripture do you just accept it or do you not attempt to resolve it??? Because in the resolution process do we not perhaps learn greater truths?

"For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man,"

You've twisted the scripture. Jesus had to be holy, he therefore had no sin in Him. As a passover lamb, He was to be spotless, without blemish. This is why it says that "sending his own Son in the LIKENESS of sinful man". A sinful human would not have been an acceptable offering to God, so Jesus was in the LIKENESS of sinful man only.

Why do you think that nobody could touch Him BEFORE He ascended to Father? His offering was without blemish because He, despite being born human, did not carry any of our sinful flesh or blood.

Nowhere in that passage does it state that He was not human, and furthermore, what it does emphasise is that Jesus was the begotten child of the Father - perfect, holy and without sin. He therefore was ONLY IN THE LIKENESS OF SINFUL MAN.

Anybody that still rejects Paul's writings need to understand that the seeming contradictions are because we are not applying the Spirit but rather our carnal understanding. Of course we are to test, but this is just an example of human understanding ..
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Great Post!  I 100% agree! :)   I wish more christians would look into this more for themselves instead of just going to their pastor or family which will always call them "Cultish" or "Jewish"/"Legalizer".  Even though the signof cults is NOT questioning, and the ones that found this to be true HAVE to question their faith.

I am on the fence about Paul too... I don't think his definition of Love is accurate and has hurt many believers on what real biblical Love is.  It might not be patient, kind, or gentle, but Yeshua and YHVH were not always either(examples are numerous, read any books other than paul's).  And if he was in fact saying the Law of YHVH is null and void, then it's easy to say YES, he was a LIAR AND A DECEIVER.  Worth looking more into at least...
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


As for Paul, MANY people are starting to get to where they are rejecting his writings outright. As for me, I keep myself from going that far by simply seeing his letters as "an addendum" or "a commentary", NOT as YHWH given scripture. 

This is something that causes many traditional Christians to go into a full on "freak out" when they hear me refer to his letters as such. 

But hey, their path to salvation is between them and YHWH. All I do is what I'm commanded to do, which is to point out His word ... what they do with it is up to them.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


"an addendum" or "a commentary"
How sad.
Should we not be studying them and shining light on to their true meaning as opposed to the demon doctrines out there in churchland?

Is this not what God would want of us?

Paul wrote "22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law"

This is what He meant by not being "under the law." This is what He meant when he counselled us that no amount of lawkeeping could ever save a person - because WITHOUT evidence of the Spirit's fruits there is no true Faith. In the same vain, James declared the very same thing Faith without deeds is dead. One could believe that Jesus died and was raised, but without the Spirit that faith is no faith at all. The devil believes in God too, but without the Holy Spirit, his faith is not saving faith.

"But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law."

Law-keeping, in and of itself, does not provide salvation. And Paul was forever fighting people coming into the congregation telling people that they had to follow the law in order TO BE SAVED. This is what Paul was writing!
His entire argument centred  on 2 things
1) law-keeping does not save.
2) fruits demonstrate the presence of the Spirit giving us the Spirit of the Law

Often Jesus went beyond the letter of the Law and instructed His disciples in the spirit of the Law. A couple of obvious examples of this can be seen as He cautioned that if any lusted they had already committed adultery, and if they called a brother a fool they were in danger of Hell fire [Matthew 5:19-30]. Each of the above examples are far beyond anything the Law ever suggested. 

To disregard half of the New Testament writings because demon doctrine teachers misquote or take scripture OUT of context is tragic.

How about advocating that Christians put their nose to the scriptures and determine, with their teacher above, exactly what Paul said ? And what they'll find is: false teachers have perpetuated false doctrines based upon scripture taken out of context. How did they get away with it? Because as Paul incessantly bangs on about - the "many" aren't demonstrating the good fruit because they have no spirit. That's why he concentrated on the identifying markers of those that truly do have saving faith versus faith of the devil (I believe in god but have no spirit transforming me...)

So why do these false teachers create churches filled with lawless people? The "man of lawlessness" arises out of a departure from truth... 

To blame the messenger because others purposely twist scripture to suit their own needs and agenda is throwing the baby out with the dirty bath water. Instead we need to be shouting at sinning Christians that their fruits are not of the Spirit. False teachers have USED scripture, out of context, to not only make lawless Christians but also the reverse: "don't read Paul cause he's a liar" only condemns them further for he gives us the markers to identify when people don't have the Spirit ! E.gz If you are still lusting after people mentally, still hating your brother etc the Spirit is not there to begin with! If your "conscious" isn't condemning these things in your mind and flesh, the Spirit isn't there or you are fighting it!

Do you advocate that every time there is an apparent contradiction in scripture to just throw it out? Do that then you ignore the command to study and show yourself approved.
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"an addendum" or "a commentary"
How sad.
Should we not be studying them and shining light on to their true meaning as opposed to the demon doctrines out there in churchland?

Is this not what God would want of us?

Paul wrote "22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law"

This is what He meant by not being "under the law." This is what He meant when he counselled us that no amount of lawkeeping could ever save a person - because WITHOUT evidence of the Spirit's fruits there is no true Faith. In the same vain, James declared the very same thing Faith without deeds is dead. One could believe that Jesus died and was raised, but without the Spirit that faith is no faith at all. The devil believes in God too, but without the Holy Spirit, his faith is not saving faith.

"But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law."

Law-keeping, in and of itself, does not provide salvation. And Paul was forever fighting people coming into the congregation telling people that they had to follow the law in order TO BE SAVED. This is what Paul was writing!
His entire argument centred  on 2 things
1) law-keeping does not save.
2) fruits demonstrate the presence of the Spirit giving us the Spirit of the Law

Often Jesus went beyond the letter of the Law and instructed His disciples in the spirit of the Law. A couple of obvious examples of this can be seen as He cautioned that if any lusted they had already committed adultery, and if they called a brother a fool they were in danger of Hell fire [Matthew 5:19-30]. Each of the above examples are far beyond anything the Law ever suggested. 

To disregard half of the New Testament writings because demon doctrine teachers misquote or take scripture OUT of context is tragic.

How about advocating that Christians put their nose to the scriptures and determine, with their teacher above, exactly what Paul said ? And what they'll find is: false teachers have perpetuated false doctrines based upon scripture taken out of context. How did they get away with it? Because as Paul incessantly bangs on about - the "many" aren't demonstrating the good fruit because they have no spirit. That's why he concentrated on the identifying markers of those that truly do have saving faith versus faith of the devil (I believe in god but have no spirit transforming me...)

So why do these false teachers create churches filled with lawless people? The "man of lawlessness" arises out of a departure from truth... 

To blame the messenger because others purposely twist scripture to suit their own needs and agenda is throwing the baby out with the dirty bath water. Instead we need to be shouting at sinning Christians that their fruits are not of the Spirit. False teachers have USED scripture, out of context, to not only make lawless Christians but also the reverse: "don't read Paul cause he's a liar" only condemns them further for he gives us the markers to identify when people don't have the Spirit ! E.gz If you are still lusting after people mentally, still hating your brother etc the Spirit is not there to begin with! If your "conscious" isn't condemning these things in your mind and flesh, the Spirit isn't there or you are fighting it!

Do you advocate that every time there is an apparent contradiction in scripture to just throw it out? Do that then you ignore the command to study and show yourself approved.
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Preach it! hf

I agree that if one finds an apparent contradiction it is only a lack of understanding on our part. All the books of Holy Writ have a perfect and beautiful harmony between them, including the books of Paul.

We may not understand it all right away, but through prayerful study and patience God will show us and give us the understanding.
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
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Oh, not this crap again...

Every year, decade, century and millennium, some bunch of nutjobs start spewing this same old, tired and always unfulfilled "prophetic" drivel.

Give up already. He, She or It ain't coming to save you. It's completely up to Humanity to save Itself - or perish from Its failure to step up and take responsibility as Caretakers.
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Jesus never exsisted you dumb sheep. It is time to wake up. Religion is used to control.
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No it is you that are controlled.
The irony is that you do not know this, yet you point fingers.
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