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A Solemn CALL & WARNING to all Followers of Jesus Christ. We have very little time!

 
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Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;


Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

2Co 1:21 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;
2Co 1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


Here, read this below, and prove me wrong. :)
(most people with this kind of gospel will only quote paul, because all the other authors, ESPECIALLY the Messiah, have a very different message than paul. James was the closest message to the Messiah's, quote his book more)



And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. he saluted them and declared what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry. And when they heard, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of jewish people there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:

And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the jewish people which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise [their] children, neither to walk after the customs.
What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come.

Acts 21:18-22

Here the LEADER JAMES of the Apostles (hint hint) was questioning if Paul was teaching against the Law. IF Paul WAS, why didn't he come out and rebuke them for following it? He does not refute them, but shows to all that he is following the Law by the act they ask him to fulfill.

SO Paul was either a coward teaching others to break the Law and saying he wasn't to the others, OR he wasn't teaching others to break the Law and WE misunderstood him.
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


I won't say one way or another, but if the Messiah says The Law will never go away, I for one believe HIM, not Paul or my old pastors interpretation of him...
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah

 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


Hos 13:14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.

1Co 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

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As always bible thinping fearmongering BULL SHIT.. repent now or burn.. As always bible thumpers just trying to force thier religion on people.. Weak minded/will fools
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3023778


"Force people"? No...can't do that! Not a matter of forcing people! Only presenting The Call of The Most High God as commanded by God! Have you ever really considered *why* you hate Christianity so much? What is at the root of your anger? Why are you so offended?


Do you understand what the opposite of Love is?
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And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. he saluted them and declared what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry. And when they heard, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of jewish people there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:

And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the jewish people which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise [their] children, neither to walk after the customs.
What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come.

Acts 21:18-22

Here the LEADER JAMES of the Apostles (hint hint) was questioning if Paul was teaching against the Law. IF Paul WAS, why didn't he come out and rebuke them for following it? He does not refute them, but shows to all that he is following the Law by the act they ask him to fulfill.

SO Paul was either a coward teaching others to break the Law and saying he wasn't to the others, OR he wasn't teaching others to break the Law and WE misunderstood him.
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


I won't say one way or another, but if the Messiah says The Law will never go away, I for one believe HIM, not Paul or my old pastors interpretation of him...
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


Indeed. JEHOVAH Himself declared in Malachi 3:6, "For I am the LORD, I change not."

The well-respected and loved protestant preacher Charles Spurgeon puts it perfectly "Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated."

If the moral law, the ten commandments, could be changed, then Jesus would not have had to come and pay the penalty for sin, for the breaking of this law.
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


This will be the time of the rise of the Anti-Christ,heres how it will work.

There will be the start of a Nuclear War,A great being will come about and stop all Nuclear missles from being launched,he will declare and demand peace to the World everyone will accept this because of the spell he will put us under,once you see a man who can stop a nuclear war it wont be hard for him to convince people he is the Messiah.

There will be the 3 and ahalf years of Peace,then that treaty will be broken and it will be all out Witch hunt for Christans.So point of the story is that everyone seems worried about a Nuclear War and there never will be a full scale Nuclear War.
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why do you spend so much time on here reporting posts? -and dont tell me Jesus would waste precious time like that...
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Good point. First, all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, especially myself. Our goal is live our faith in perfect obedience to God's principles, to His Holy Law, by faith in Jesus Christ, and through the power of His Holy Spirit. This, however, is not always so. We stumble and fall and we allow God to pick us back up and plant our feet back on the path of righteousness.

Second, if you think I have spent 'so much' time reporting posts, you are mistaken. I have gotten all these points from reporting posts in but a few hours total.

Third, have you thought that perhaps I may have desired to accumulate points so that I could give ban immunities to those who may have been banned for unjust reasons, or for those who cannot afford a membership themselves?

When judging, judge righteous judgement, and look past what the eye sees.
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lol...its cool
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repent = turn and believe ! john 3:16
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Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;


Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

2Co 1:21 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;
2Co 1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


Here, read this below, and prove me wrong. :)
(most people with this kind of gospel will only quote paul, because all the other authors, ESPECIALLY the Messiah, have a very different message than paul. James was the closest message to the Messiah's, quote his book more)



And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. he saluted them and declared what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry. And when they heard, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of jewish people there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:

And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the jewish people which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise [their] children, neither to walk after the customs.
What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come.

Acts 21:18-22

Here the LEADER JAMES of the Apostles (hint hint) was questioning if Paul was teaching against the Law. IF Paul WAS, why didn't he come out and rebuke them for following it? He does not refute them, but shows to all that he is following the Law by the act they ask him to fulfill.

SO Paul was either a coward teaching others to break the Law and saying he wasn't to the others, OR he wasn't teaching others to break the Law and WE misunderstood him.
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


I won't say one way or another, but if the Messiah says The Law will never go away, I for one believe HIM, not Paul or my old pastors interpretation of him...
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah

 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


Hos 13:14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.

1Co 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


The book of Hosea is talking about Israel and redeeming them to be ABLE to come back TO the covenant through the Messiah. But it doesn't mean they can keep playing the whore (sinning/breaking the Law)

And 1 Cor is Paul again... But yes, the Law does define sin. So the Messiah died so we can live in sin? or so we can pursue righteousness?

Righteous = following after divine Law.
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They manufactured it all way way back in the ages when they came from the skies hiding their spaceships behind the clouds pretending to be something much more powerful than what they really were deceiving millions by painting their false pictures and false hopes and dreams. They come back soon to repeat it all again offering comfort and protection and eternal love and peace all this in trade for nothing but blind faith and trust yet when the most important thing is at stake your eternal freedom and well being not so many will be as gullible and easily deceived this time round! music
When your soul/spirit leaves your body and starts floating up towards the light just hang back for a while, a few days, a few years, what does it really matter, you have all of eternity to choose your own path and determine and discover the "truths" of existence. Going headlong and blind into anything is never a wise move, especially when time never runs out and your eternal freedom is at stake!
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Acts 21:18-22
I won't say one way or another, but if the Messiah says The Law will never go away, I for one believe HIM, not Paul or my old pastors interpretation of him...


Indeed. JEHOVAH Himself declared in Malachi 3:6, "For I am the LORD, I change not."

The well-respected and loved protestant preacher Charles Spurgeon puts it perfectly "Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated."

If the moral law, the ten commandments, could be changed, then Jesus would not have had to come and pay the penalty for sin, for the breaking of this law.


Jesus came to fulfill the Law. God says all men have fallen short of the Glory of God. The Law should be an ever present reminder of a need for a Saviour. Without Jesus you will be judged according to the Law. Its why the wicked seek to wipe away this reminder.
Come And Take It!
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As always bible thinping fearmongering BULL SHIT.. repent now or burn.. As always bible thumpers just trying to force thier religion on people.. Weak minded/will fools
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3023778


"Force people"? No...can't do that! Not a matter of forcing people! Only presenting The Call of The Most High God as commanded by God! Have you ever really considered *why* you hate Christianity so much? What is at the root of your anger? Why are you so offended?


Do you understand what the opposite of Love is?
 Quoting: jdb


Yes and the religious that act like their way is the ONLY way, show it.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Those who have had documented Near Death Experiences (thousands) have pretty much established that God welcomes all souls back with open arms (unconditional love) - including those who even tried to prove He doesn't exist. But yes, those who did try to live by his prophets' examples seem to be considerably more developed souls, which ain't bad at'all.
 Quoting: Maxmakc


NDEs followed by OBEs(Out of body experiences) are nothing more than the release of DMT, from the pineal gland, into the brain at extreme levels of stress, such as near death. DMT is the most powerful hallucinogen in the world, and is the reason why we dream, for it is naturally released into our brain during heavy stages of REM sleep. These OBEs near death when people have claimed that they saw God and He supposedly told them everyone will be saved, is nothing but trick of the mind coupled with the influence of spirits, intended to make these poor souls believe a great lie.

Demons(spirits) often interact with unsuspecting ones in dreams, and in lucid or vivid dreams, which New Agers and occultists choose to call 'the astral plane'. God gives dreams and visions as well, but His divine revelations will never go against that which He has already told us.

We are instructed by God to test all dreams, apparitions, doctrines, and visions by the Word of God. If it contradicts the Bible, it did not come from the Creator, but is originated from the adversary of souls himself, Satan and Lucifer. "To the law and to the testimony, if they speak not according to this Word, it is because there is no light in them." Isaiah 8:20
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


Of course because an unlimited being is limited to the words in a damn book. Do you even listen to yourself? There's a whole other world that exists beyond 2000 year old book, explore it sometime.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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As always bible thinping fearmongering BULL SHIT.. repent now or burn.. As always bible thumpers just trying to force thier religion on people.. Weak minded/will fools
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3023778


"Force people"? No...can't do that! Not a matter of forcing people! Only presenting The Call of The Most High God as commanded by God! Have you ever really considered *why* you hate Christianity so much? What is at the root of your anger? Why are you so offended?


Do you understand what the opposite of Love is?
 Quoting: jdb


Yes and the religious that act like their way is the ONLY way, show it.
 Quoting: ajk


Those that act like thier way is the only way? Or do you mean the path that Jesus spoke of? Ya know the path is narrow, and few their be that find it!
Come And Take It!
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Can't watch the video....my IPAD doesn't support flash. Anyone got a youtube link?
"If You Don't Love Jesus, Go To Hell" ......Billy Joe Shaver
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Here, read this below, and prove me wrong. :)
(most people with this kind of gospel will only quote paul, because all the other authors, ESPECIALLY the Messiah, have a very different message than paul. James was the closest message to the Messiah's, quote his book more)



...

 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


Hos 13:14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.

1Co 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


The book of Hosea is talking about Israel and redeeming them to be ABLE to come back TO the covenant through the Messiah. But it doesn't mean they can keep playing the whore (sinning/breaking the Law)

And 1 Cor is Paul again... But yes, the Law does define sin. So the Messiah died so we can live in sin? or so we can pursue righteousness?

Righteous = following after divine Law.
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


You don't keep the law

Righteous=Jesus Christ
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


You are promoting Lawlessness.

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work Lawlessness" Matt 7:21

This is the spirit of the Dragon/"Antichrist", he will HATE those that keep the commandments.

"And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Rev 12:17
Make yourself better everyday.
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Jesus never exsisted you dumb sheep. It is time to wake up. Religion is used to control.
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If YOU ARE SO POSITIVE OF THIS FACT, WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU GIVE A DAMN WHAT SOME SILLY CHRISTIANS BELIEVE????

OBVIOUSLY YOUR INNER SPIRITUAL SELF KNOWS BETTER, OTHERWISE YOU WOULD NOT DENY SO DEEPLY AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY W/O ANY KIND OF GUILT OR CONDEMNATION AGAINST BELIEVERS!!!!!!!

REPENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU WHO DENY CHRIST, ARE THE ACTUAL HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!
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As always bible thinping fearmongering BULL SHIT.. repent now or burn.. As always bible thumpers just trying to force thier religion on people.. Weak minded/will fools
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3023778


"Force people"? No...can't do that! Not a matter of forcing people! Only presenting The Call of The Most High God as commanded by God! Have you ever really considered *why* you hate Christianity so much? What is at the root of your anger? Why are you so offended?


Do you understand what the opposite of Love is?
 Quoting: jdb


Yes and the religious that act like their way is the ONLY way, show it.
 Quoting: ajk


Please say more on the opposite of Love!

Re: "...the religious that act like their way is the ONLY way, show it."

Well, that's a radical point! Here you *are* talking about "religion"! Religion does not nor cannot work!

So...it's *not* about religion! It's only about a relationship with Jesus Christ! But, here's a consideration: why don't you come into a saving relationship with Jesus Christ and then go out and do what you are demanding of others to do?
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Acts 21:18-22
I won't say one way or another, but if the Messiah says The Law will never go away, I for one believe HIM, not Paul or my old pastors interpretation of him...


Indeed. JEHOVAH Himself declared in Malachi 3:6, "For I am the LORD, I change not."

The well-respected and loved protestant preacher Charles Spurgeon puts it perfectly "Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated."

If the moral law, the ten commandments, could be changed, then Jesus would not have had to come and pay the penalty for sin, for the breaking of this law.


Jesus came to fulfill the Law. God says all men have fallen short of the Glory of God. The Law should be an ever present reminder of a need for a Saviour. Without Jesus you will be judged according to the Law. Its why the wicked seek to wipe away this reminder.
 Quoting: saved


you quoted Matt 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil"

Did you miss the first part? your definition of the verse makes no sense.. I did not come to end the law, but to end it."??? umm.. no. fulfil means: make abound, overflow. He came to make it CLEAR and not full of man made laws or guessing games. NOT to end it

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Lunacy is no belief in nothing...............
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Those who have had documented Near Death Experiences (thousands) have pretty much established that God welcomes all souls back with open arms (unconditional love) - including those who even tried to prove He doesn't exist. But yes, those who did try to live by his prophets' examples seem to be considerably more developed souls, which ain't bad at'all.
 Quoting: Maxmakc


NDEs followed by OBEs(Out of body experiences) are nothing more than the release of DMT, from the pineal gland, into the brain at extreme levels of stress, such as near death. DMT is the most powerful hallucinogen in the world, and is the reason why we dream, for it is naturally released into our brain during heavy stages of REM sleep. These OBEs near death when people have claimed that they saw God and He supposedly told them everyone will be saved, is nothing but trick of the mind coupled with the influence of spirits, intended to make these poor souls believe a great lie.

Demons(spirits) often interact with unsuspecting ones in dreams, and in lucid or vivid dreams, which New Agers and occultists choose to call 'the astral plane'. God gives dreams and visions as well, but His divine revelations will never go against that which He has already told us.

We are instructed by God to test all dreams, apparitions, doctrines, and visions by the Word of God. If it contradicts the Bible, it did not come from the Creator, but is originated from the adversary of souls himself, Satan and Lucifer. "To the law and to the testimony, if they speak not according to this Word, it is because there is no light in them." Isaiah 8:20
 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


Of course because an unlimited being is limited to the words in a damn book. Do you even listen to yourself? There's a whole other world that exists beyond 2000 year old book, explore it sometime.
 Quoting: ajk


You couldnt be more wrong.Nothing exsists without it. Jesus spoke the world and the universe into exsistance with His Word. Maybe something you should explore?
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Hos 13:14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.

1Co 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


The book of Hosea is talking about Israel and redeeming them to be ABLE to come back TO the covenant through the Messiah. But it doesn't mean they can keep playing the whore (sinning/breaking the Law)

And 1 Cor is Paul again... But yes, the Law does define sin. So the Messiah died so we can live in sin? or so we can pursue righteousness?

Righteous = following after divine Law.
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


You don't keep the law

Righteous=Jesus Christ
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


You are promoting Lawlessness.

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work Lawlessness" Matt 7:21

This is the spirit of the Dragon/"Antichrist", he will HATE those that keep the commandments.

"And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Rev 12:17
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


No I'm not.
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You need to define "Sin" as the Creator would define it or you'll have 34,000 different denominations... O wait... We do!

"Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." 1 John 3:4

If you don't use His law, you will make your own and declare yourself the Law giver. or your pastor... Christians need to wake up!!!!! Time is short....
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Well spoken!
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Acts 21:18-22
I won't say one way or another, but if the Messiah says The Law will never go away, I for one believe HIM, not Paul or my old pastors interpretation of him...


Indeed. JEHOVAH Himself declared in Malachi 3:6, "For I am the LORD, I change not."

The well-respected and loved protestant preacher Charles Spurgeon puts it perfectly "Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated."

If the moral law, the ten commandments, could be changed, then Jesus would not have had to come and pay the penalty for sin, for the breaking of this law.


Jesus came to fulfill the Law. God says all men have fallen short of the Glory of God. The Law should be an ever present reminder of a need for a Saviour. Without Jesus you will be judged according to the Law. Its why the wicked seek to wipe away this reminder.
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you quoted Matt 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil"

Did you miss the first part? your definition of the verse makes no sense.. I did not come to end the law, but to end it."??? umm.. no. fulfil means: make abound, overflow. He came to make it CLEAR and not full of man made laws or guessing games. NOT to end it
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Well said again!
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Of course, the Mayans, the Incas, the Buddhas, the Hopis say the same thing. the end times

pole shift

sun cycles

omega point

the harvest
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The book of Hosea is talking about Israel and redeeming them to be ABLE to come back TO the covenant through the Messiah. But it doesn't mean they can keep playing the whore (sinning/breaking the Law)

And 1 Cor is Paul again... But yes, the Law does define sin. So the Messiah died so we can live in sin? or so we can pursue righteousness?

Righteous = following after divine Law.
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


You don't keep the law

Righteous=Jesus Christ
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


You are promoting Lawlessness.

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work Lawlessness" Matt 7:21

This is the spirit of the Dragon/"Antichrist", he will HATE those that keep the commandments.

"And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Rev 12:17
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


No I'm not.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


Yes you are. "Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? GOD FORBID."

Jesus came to save you from sin. If you choose to continue to transgress the principle's of God's kingdom, you are living lawlessness and you are trampling upon everything Jesus Christ sacrificed and did.

If you were a foreigner wanting to come a new country because you have learned great things about and fallen in love with the King of this nation, and knew that living in this new land would give you a better life, and the King of this government asked you personally, "Will you abide by the laws of morality which we have established in this kingdom, which will ensure your happiness?", if you say "No, I will not!", will this King allow you to enter into His kingdom? Of course He won't. And your denial of His request only proves that you never loved the King.

It is the exact same thing with JEHOVAH, the Creator of this Universe. Jesus gives you the ability to enter this new land through His blood and His grace. If you are professing to love the King, the Father, and Jesus, but desire to live according to your own laws, based on what YOU think is right, you are proving that you have never loved the King.

The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
Bill Hughes (Author of The Secret Terrorists and The Enemy Unmasked)
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They manufactured it all way way back in the ages when they came from the skies hiding their spaceships behind the clouds pretending to be something much more powerful than what they really were deceiving millions by painting their false pictures and false hopes and dreams. They come back soon to repeat it all again offering comfort and protection and eternal love and peace all this in trade for nothing but blind faith and trust yet when the most important thing is at stake your eternal freedom and well being not so many will be as gullible and easily deceived this time round! music
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It becomes extremely important to only have faith in yourself in these coming times never taking things on face value no matter how realistic or right they may seem we are our own gods with our own paths to choose we are invincible if we let ourselves be but can be easily fooled or lead astray and must stop taking our eternal life and freedom for granted as these deceivers can swallow all this up in an instant if we hand ourselves over to their domain! music
When your soul/spirit leaves your body and starts floating up towards the light just hang back for a while, a few days, a few years, what does it really matter, you have all of eternity to choose your own path and determine and discover the "truths" of existence. Going headlong and blind into anything is never a wise move, especially when time never runs out and your eternal freedom is at stake!
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You don't keep the law

Righteous=Jesus Christ
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


You are promoting Lawlessness.

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work Lawlessness" Matt 7:21

This is the spirit of the Dragon/"Antichrist", he will HATE those that keep the commandments.

"And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Rev 12:17
 Quoting: Tribe of Judah


No I'm not.
 Quoting: 1COR15:22


Yes you are. "Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? GOD FORBID."

Jesus came to save you from sin. If you choose to continue to transgress the principle's of God's kingdom, you are living lawlessness and you are trampling upon everything Jesus Christ sacrificed and did.

If you were a foreigner wanting to come a new country because you have learned great things about and fallen in love with the King of this nation, and knew that living in this new land would give you a better life, and the King of this government asked you personally, "Will you abide by the laws of morality which we have established in this kingdom, which will ensure your happiness?", if you say "No, I will not!", will this King allow you to enter into His kingdom? Of course He won't. And your denial of His request only proves that you never loved the King.

It is the exact same thing with JEHOVAH, the Creator of this Universe. Jesus gives you the ability to enter this new land through His blood and His grace. If you are professing to love the King, the Father, and Jesus, but desire to live according to your own laws, based on what YOU think is right, you are proving that you have never loved the King.

 Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness


Do you choose to continue to trangress the law?
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There are many different interpretations of the word believe.......and many different levels of belief.


But what is important is:


what is the belief that saves?



Mere intellectual assent?????


or believing in Him.........as a child believes in his father.......entrusting his life to his father.
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They manufactured it all way way back in the ages when they came from the skies hiding their spaceships behind the clouds pretending to be something much more powerful than what they really were deceiving millions by painting their false pictures and false hopes and dreams. They come back soon to repeat it all again offering comfort and protection and eternal love and peace all this in trade for nothing but blind faith and trust yet when the most important thing is at stake your eternal freedom and well being not so many will be as gullible and easily deceived this time round! music
 Quoting: Mr Poppadoppolis



It becomes extremely important to only have faith in yourself in these coming times never taking things on face value no matter how realistic or right they may seem we are our own gods with our own paths to choose we are invincible if we let ourselves be but can be easily fooled or lead astray and must stop taking our eternal life and freedom for granted as these deceivers can swallow all this up in an instant if we hand ourselves over to their domain! music
 Quoting: Mr Poppadoppolis


If you trust yourself, I promise you that you will never be saved.

It is only trust in God which saves and protects the faithful through the final crisis.

"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" Jeremiah 17:9
The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy

"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520)

"While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527).

"Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon

"Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits."
Bill Hughes (Author of The Secret Terrorists and The Enemy Unmasked)
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They manufactured it all way way back in the ages when they came from the skies hiding their spaceships behind the clouds pretending to be something much more powerful than what they really were deceiving millions by painting their false pictures and false hopes and dreams. They come back soon to repeat it all again offering comfort and protection and eternal love and peace all this in trade for nothing but blind faith and trust yet when the most important thing is at stake your eternal freedom and well being not so many will be as gullible and easily deceived this time round! music
 Quoting: Mr Poppadoppolis



It becomes extremely important to only have faith in yourself in these coming times never taking things on face value no matter how realistic or right they may seem we are our own gods with our own paths to choose we are invincible if we let ourselves be but can be easily fooled or lead astray and must stop taking our eternal life and freedom for granted as these deceivers can swallow all this up in an instant if we hand ourselves over to their domain! music
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You must be an Oprah fan? she has a following of 2 million that believe that they are all Gods too. I would assume you can save yourself from the coming tribulation? And have already created your own heaven, because i wouldnt be here if i had. What a crock!
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If there is a Satan he started his work the day Jesus was crucified.

He got into the pages of the Bible and started his manipulation.

These over-emotional fools on the video prove this.

If Jesus is truly your Lord and Saviour follow his exact teachings of when he walked on Earth.

Don't follow blindly those alleged teachings reported to you through people like Paul, Moses, John etc.

Even though we don't know the absolute accuracy in the 4 gospels we can at least see a pattern of teachings that make sense.

But alas mankind can't follow this very express warning

Mark 7:7-9 Their worship is a farce, for they teach man-made ideas as commands from God.

For you ignore God’s law and substitute your own tradition.”

Then he said, “You skillfully sidestep God’s law in order to hold on to your own tradition.


Now go and compare what the men of the Bible have said or quoted Jesus/God as saying from heaven and what Jesus said whilst on Earth and see if they agree.

For if they don't they are proving Mark 7:7-9.
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u use religion to parade your sorry filthy ass , as if it were clean and righteous , u want to do gods work? get ur ass in the streets and help them without a home without food without clothes with out hope PERIOD until then you have done service only for your own ego in your little fucking circle jerk





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