The concept of "piracy" and "copywrite" is built upon delusion! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9039345 Brazil 01/17/2012 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9041329 United States 01/17/2012 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP you appear to lack a fundamental understanding of intellectual property rights. Perhaps you should spend a few years writing a book, recording album or making a film and then watch it get stolen all over the nets. That being said, don't think I'm in favor of SOPA. I say prosecute the ones doing the theft, not the environment they use to do it in. BTW, clone GLP and see what Mr Trinity does. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 9035024 Australia 01/17/2012 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP you appear to lack a fundamental understanding of intellectual property rights. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9041329 Perhaps you should spend a few years writing a book, recording album or making a film and then watch it get stolen all over the nets. That being said, don't think I'm in favor of SOPA. I say prosecute the ones doing the theft, not the environment they use to do it in. BTW, clone GLP and see what Mr Trinity does. You know what if I wrote a book. And it was all over the net, or I recorded a film or an album. And it was all over the net. That everyone had seen read or listened. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Isn't it????? Why else would I create something? Maybe it is you that doesn't understand something basic. And thats the problem isn't it. You have been brainwashed with all the nonsense into believe something is real when it isn't. That you can somehow own a thought an idea or expression. Fact is you don't really own anything you just created it and it's being used. If you or anyone goes to the effort of making a book. That would be their fault. Don't, blame others for reading it. Why did he write it. Should know things can be distrubuted. is it so difficult to face. Tell me what is the difference between every word action and deed, anything I do different to intellectual property is my life copywrite? Its a made up law of fiction. And those people that cry oh noes my work up in smoke. It's being passed around alot without cash going to me! Can you see the problem. Can you really see. It's not that people are doing wrong, It's a wrong idea that you think you should be controlling others, with what you create. Don't create something unless you want people to have it. regardless of what cash goes to you. I know it's a strange idea when you have become so blind. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9016323 Germany 01/17/2012 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9041329 United States 01/17/2012 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know what if I wrote a book. And it was all over the net, or I recorded a film or an album. And it was all over the net. That everyone had seen read or listened. Quoting: OPMISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Isn't it????? Why else would I create something? Maybe it is you that doesn't understand something basic. And thats the problem isn't it. You have been brainwashed with all the nonsense into believe something is real when it isn't. That you can somehow own a thought an idea or expression. Fact is you don't really own anything you just created it and it's being used. If you or anyone goes to the effort of making a book. That would be their fault. Don't, blame others for reading it. Why did he write it. Should know things can be distrubuted. is it so difficult to face. Tell me what is the difference between every word action and deed, anything I do different to intellectual property is my life copywrite? Its a made up law of fiction. And those people that cry oh noes my work up in smoke. It's being passed around alot without cash going to me! Can you see the problem. Can you really see. It's not that people are doing wrong, It's a wrong idea that you think you should be controlling others, with what you create. Don't create something unless you want people to have it. regardless of what cash goes to you. I know it's a strange idea when you have become so blind. it is indeed noble to create for the benefit of the world, but artists have financial needs, and often go out on a limb being without benefactors you seem stuck in a fallacy that everything is copied from everything else, that is not so hard work desrves compensation, this is no different than patent philosophy, the major impetus for inventiveness and progress of course I'm writing this from the perspective of a songwriter with hundreds of songs and an industry in the toilet what's your perspective, what do you create? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6021166 United States 01/17/2012 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Simply not buying something is not stealing it unless you actually take something remove something from the person that they have now lost. Its similar to test driving a car at a dealership then not buying it. The car salesmen didn't lose the car, just like the movie maker didn't lose the right to continue selling the movie. This is like 2 sales reps, and one get the sale and the other doesn't. And the one who didn't suing the one that did. Its absurdly ridiculous lies, it has unlimited consequences like people going to someone's house and watching a movie. But they didn't pay for it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1466447 Belgium 01/17/2012 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go to [link to onecandleinthedark.blogspot.com] and [link to www.cbsyousuck.com] for thousands of pages of evidence and links to the original source research on the Internet Wayback Machine [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6021166 United States 01/17/2012 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if someone takes the song that I wrote, copies it and sells it as their own? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9016323 Then that's stealing, because they have removed in that instance your right to sell your work. Which is why this is criminal copyright infringement where the police get involved. Not just a stupid lawsuit. |
Dynamitrios
User ID: 8493584 Greece 01/17/2012 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP you appear to lack a fundamental understanding of intellectual property rights. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9041329 Perhaps you should spend a few years writing a book, recording album or making a film and then watch it get stolen all over the nets. That being said, don't think I'm in favor of SOPA. I say prosecute the ones doing the theft, not the environment they use to do it in. BTW, clone GLP and see what Mr Trinity does. You know what if I wrote a book. And it was all over the net, or I recorded a film or an album. And it was all over the net. That everyone had seen read or listened. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Isn't it????? Why else would I create something? Maybe it is you that doesn't understand something basic. And thats the problem isn't it. You have been brainwashed with all the nonsense into believe something is real when it isn't. That you can somehow own a thought an idea or expression. Fact is you don't really own anything you just created it and it's being used. If you or anyone goes to the effort of making a book. That would be their fault. Don't, blame others for reading it. Why did he write it. Should know things can be distrubuted. is it so difficult to face. Tell me what is the difference between every word action and deed, anything I do different to intellectual property is my life copywrite? Its a made up law of fiction. And those people that cry oh noes my work up in smoke. It's being passed around alot without cash going to me! Can you see the problem. Can you really see. It's not that people are doing wrong, It's a wrong idea that you think you should be controlling others, with what you create. Don't create something unless you want people to have it. regardless of what cash goes to you. I know it's a strange idea when you have become so blind. absolutelly true a free man chooses, a slave obeys |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 9035024 Australia 01/17/2012 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if someone takes the song that I wrote, copies it and sells it as their own? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9016323 There are people making money from something I've created, right now, And don't see a dime of it! Go back to stealing cars, idiot! Wow how about this. If someone is smart enough to sell something you created better then you can, or equally as you can. Why don't you learn something from it instead of crying like a baby? Why don't you sell something of someone elses then? Just like they did to you. If your main motivation is money gets smarter and adapt yourself. Don't sit there and cry about what you created being used. How are you at any disadvantage at all to anyone else. Just cause you create something don't mean you are the king of every dime. Or do you think cause the world could revolve around you, so your life could pretty much be coprwrite and everything connected to it owes you and every single dime should be yours in the world. I think you are on to something, maybe a new version of the new sopa bill. Stupid oppressive perception arises. sopa. But you could call yours something like the selfish asshole act. As it is not much different to having dollar signs in your eyes, rather than thinking about what you are creating and doing for the world. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6021166 United States 01/17/2012 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if someone takes the song that I wrote, copies it and sells it as their own? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9016323 There are people making money from something I've created, right now, And don't see a dime of it! Go back to stealing cars, idiot! Wow how about this. If someone is smart enough to sell something you created better then you can, or equally as you can. Why don't you learn something from it instead of crying like a baby? No you are wrong here the Law sees this as criminal enough to prosecute people criminally. Copying and selling someone else's works is commercial copyright infringement. This is not the same as for personal use the law does not determine this as criminal its up to the rights holder to try to prove you infringed on them and try to get money from you. What they want to do is change the law to include private use and this of course is absurd and has never ending consequences. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7685892 Australia 01/17/2012 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What a complete fuck head OP is. Consider movies. Movies cost a lot of money to make. If you can't get returns on that - GUESS WHAT - you don't make any more movies. Thus the issue of copying movies becomes a mute point because there will be no movies left to copy, other than amateur porn of would be thieves like OP wanking them selves. How many times I've heard the similar argument it's not stealing because you're only making a copy. If a guy has a Ferrari and you make a perfect copy - that's not stealing - he still has his car they proclaim. What these idiots fail to realize is that then everyone would have the exact same Ferrai, they would lose all value and NO more cars would be made ever again. Everyone would have the exact same car for the rest of their lives. Moron fucksticks that think the world owes them everything for doing nothing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6021166 United States 01/17/2012 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What a complete fuck head OP is. Consider movies. Movies cost a lot of money to make. If you can't get returns on that - GUESS WHAT - you don't make any more movies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7685892 Not the point what people do privately is none of your business. Not buying the movie is not the same as stealing the movie. Clearly it has not and will not stop movies being made and only a lying shill would say such a thing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4217461 Canada 01/17/2012 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP you appear to lack a fundamental understanding of intellectual property rights. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9041329 Perhaps you should spend a few years writing a book, recording album or making a film and then watch it get stolen all over the nets. That being said, don't think I'm in favor of SOPA. I say prosecute the ones doing the theft, not the environment they use to do it in. BTW, clone GLP and see what Mr Trinity does. You're a moron. (emphasis on the period) You think because some bought and paid for government passes a law to protect the rich corporations and prosecute you, that it's right? Give your head a shake. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6021166 United States 01/17/2012 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many times I've heard the similar argument it's not stealing because you're only making a copy. If a guy has a Ferrari and you make a perfect copy - that's not stealing - he still has his car they proclaim. What these idiots fail to realize is that then everyone would have the exact same Ferrai, they would lose all value and NO more cars would be made ever again. Everyone would have the exact same car for the rest of their lives. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7685892 Your absolutist totalitarian stance is disgusting beyond belief you posses no logic in your brain only one extreme to the other. No more cars would be made ever again |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9041329 United States 01/17/2012 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow how about this. If someone is smart enough to sell something you created better then you can, or equally as you can. Why don't you learn something from it instead of crying like a baby? Quoting: OPand if someone is smart enough to break past your security and clean out your house while you are away... or pick up your daughter from school saying they were sent by you then rapes her......... or slanders you in public and the townspeople burn you down.......... why don't you just learn something from it |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 9035024 Australia 01/17/2012 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is indeed noble to create for the benefit of the world, but artists have financial needs, and often go out on a limb being without benefactors Quoting: OPyou seem stuck in a fallacy that everything is copied from everything else, that is not so hard work desrves compensation, this is no different than patent philosophy, the major impetus for inventiveness and progress of course I'm writing this from the perspective of a songwriter with hundreds of songs and an industry in the toilet what's your perspective, what do you create? You do realize it's not just artists that have financial needs. Everyone has financial needs. What you choose to do to fulfill that is entirely your own responsibility. If something doesn't work to fulfill that financial need. That is nothing but your own planning gone wrong. Isn't it? It actually doesn't work the way you are expecting in real life. What work you put in to things is your own liability and it always has been. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6021166 United States 01/17/2012 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow how about this. If someone is smart enough to sell something you created better then you can, or equally as you can. Why don't you learn something from it instead of crying like a baby? Quoting: OPand if someone is smart enough to break past your security and clean out your house while you are away... Then you actually LOSE physical property. Not just a theoretical sale of some product. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9041329 United States 01/17/2012 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're a moron. (emphasis on the period) Quoting: canadiaYou think because some bought and paid for government passes a law to protect the rich corporations and prosecute you, that it's right? Give your head a shake corporations don't create but then again you appear to think that ad hominem attacks bolster your argument so there is no point going in circles with you on this |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9041329 United States 01/17/2012 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4141935 United States 01/17/2012 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6021166 United States 01/17/2012 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then you actually LOSE physical property. Quoting: 166Not just a theoretical sale of some product. I see no difference. If it's worth stealing, it has value. That's because you have an illogical absolutist totalitarian mindset. The law thank God doesn't see it your distorted way. Luckily this is not a debate about some theoretical value of something. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4141935 United States 01/17/2012 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 9035024 Australia 01/17/2012 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | like people going to someone's house and watching a movie. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6021166 But they didn't pay for it. Thats another thing. If you are at someone elses house and watching a dvd. You should fit the definition of participating in the dangerous shocking act of piracy and intellectual stealing of an idea. Cause you didn't pay for all the dvds you watching at his house! Or are you just living your life and being normal and this piracy thing is just ridiculious? If you think piracy is correct you should not ever go to another persons house and watch their dvds but buy your own. If you try to justify it then you have to accept other things of piracy are also just as silly as that idea and all part of the same nonsense. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6021166 United States 01/17/2012 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Should you go to jail? Should all the people going back 50 years who copied their friends records on to cassette tape be sent to jail? This is how absurd this gets and its for nothing more than GREED. Example a game for a console, simply using the game disc having to have the game disc in the drive after 12 months even if you're careful will damage it scratch it so it wont work any more. Then you have to buy the game AGAIN. And the maker of the console makes it this way on purpose so you can't load it from HD and have to damage the disc. Why does the console maker not go to jail for fraud? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9041329 United States 01/17/2012 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's because you have an illogical absolutist totalitarian mindset. Quoting: 166The law thank God doesn't see it your distorted way. Luckily this is not a debate about some theoretical value of something. wrong! the law sees it my way haven't you ever seen the FBI warning at the beginning of a movie? haven't you read the copyright notice on a book or recording? you obviously consume, not produce |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6021166 United States 01/17/2012 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | like people going to someone's house and watching a movie. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6021166 But they didn't pay for it. Thats another thing. If you are at someone elses house and watching a dvd. You should fit the definition of participating in the dangerous shocking act of piracy and intellectual stealing of an idea. Cause you didn't pay for all the dvds you watching at his house! Or are you just living your life and being normal and this piracy thing is just ridiculious? If you think piracy is correct you should not ever go to another persons house and watch their dvds but buy your own. If you try to justify it then you have to accept other things of piracy are also just as silly as that idea and all part of the same nonsense. Or listening to music at a part, they have already started trying to make large parties get distribution rights to play music. It never ends once you cross that fine line that the law has so far refused to cross. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6021166 United States 01/17/2012 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | like people going to someone's house and watching a movie. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6021166 But they didn't pay for it. Thats another thing. If you are at someone elses house and watching a dvd. You should fit the definition of participating in the dangerous shocking act of piracy and intellectual stealing of an idea. Cause you didn't pay for all the dvds you watching at his house! Or are you just living your life and being normal and this piracy thing is just ridiculious? If you think piracy is correct you should not ever go to another persons house and watch their dvds but buy your own. If you try to justify it then you have to accept other things of piracy are also just as silly as that idea and all part of the same nonsense. Or listening to music at a part, they have already started trying to make large parties get distribution rights to play music. It never ends once you cross that fine line that the law has so far refused to cross. *Party |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6021166 United States 01/17/2012 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's because you have an illogical absolutist totalitarian mindset. Quoting: 166The law thank God doesn't see it your distorted way. Luckily this is not a debate about some theoretical value of something. wrong! the law sees it my way haven't you ever seen the FBI warning at the beginning of a movie? haven't you read the copyright notice on a book or recording? you obviously consume, not produce LOL no it doesn't the FBI doesn't prosecute people for copying a movie. The movie company sues them in civil court using corrupt lawyers and fraud. Mr Totalitarian Absolutist Sycophant. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 9035024 Australia 01/17/2012 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if someone takes the song that I wrote, copies it and sells it as their own? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9016323 Then that's stealing, because they have removed in that instance your right to sell your work. Which is why this is criminal copyright infringement where the police get involved. Not just a stupid lawsuit. It's not stealing. They havn't removed anything. They are just using what is created by you. You still have your creation. You still able to sell whatever you create. You got nothing to cry about. They are selling it too. but thats also your fault cause you created it. And you should have thought about that and taken things into account and realized about it. And just because a law is enforced by police doesnt mean it's not stupid. There is plenty of stupid laws and they are always changing. Arn't they? |