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do you believe demons can cause suicide and murder?

 
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I believe in them. Yes everyone has free will, but these demons are here to tempt us to do the negative things. They want us to steer away from God. I feel that people who get high off drugs and alcohol, are the most vulnerable for demon interference. When someone is feeling at a low point in their life the demons feed off that too and can make you feel worse, to the point of maybe committing suicide. Playing around with ouja boards and doing magic attracts them too. They thrive off it. Thats just my opinion anyway.hf
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i posted last week about someone i know hanging themself in the basement of their house. They were a conspiracy theorist and posted here.

So that might explain this thread.

What i have recently discovered adds a little more to the story. The houses previous owner had a daughter that hung herself in the attic thirteen years ago.

This is to suicides in the old house in just thirteen years. Of a house over a hundred years old so who knows if there are more..

Im not saying there is anything to that. But it has me wondering.

Can evil be in a place? Or perhaps the same demon keep going to a certain place looking for victims?

All input welcome.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1446051


I won't say yes or no here.
But I won't forget the house near where I used to live.
It was up for sale and I kept hearing rumors that bad things had happened there.
Turned out that 3 people killed themselves there over a period of 15 years. (House had sold 3 different times, so none of these were in same family)
And oddly enough, trees and bushes would constantly die off in the line between the house and adjoining homes.
A beautiful upscale area and yet the neighbors also seem besieged by bad luck. Myself included.
I used to think my Mother was bat poop insane for believing in curses/demons/etc, but now idk.
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Dear Fucking Morons... Believing in Demons = Fucking Stupid - DO NOT DO IT HERE!
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So you're calling Jesus Christ and his Followers morons ?
Get a life.


"Jesus rebuked the demon, and it came out of the boy, and he was healed from that moment."
-- Matthew 17:18, NIV

"The demon threw him to the ground in a convulsion. But Jesus rebuked the evil spirit, healed the boy and gave him back to his father. And they were all amazed at the greatness of God."
-- Luke 9:42-3

"Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith."
-- 1 Peter 5:8-9
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Yes, I do believe in demonic possession, and I believe it can bring about suicide and murder.

I believe there is a lower dimension from this one, and I believe evil spirits are most comfortable there after they leave this world.

However, after leaving this dimension spirits can travel back and forth. If someone was evil when they died...they are still going to be evil after they die...unless they experience Divine Intervention.

I believe in the Virgin Mary, Jesus Christ, the Saints, and the Source From Whence I Come, or Creator. I know myself, trust my heart and soul, therefore, I feel better praying to the SOURCE from whence I COME. If I am a well intentioned individual, then my Source also has this quality...if that makes sense.

I have crucifixes on my walls, and holy water in my home. I feel I have dealt with demonic possession, and I have every intention of fighting that fight as long as God asks.
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If you believe in demons, you should be locked-up.
 Quoting: CrazyJarhead


If you don't believe in demons, you should be locked-up.


See how that works?
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If you believe in demons, you should be locked-up.
 Quoting: CrazyJarhead


If you don't believe in demons, you should be locked-up.


See how that works?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7976121





Anyone who fights as vigorously as CJ does to oppose the mere idea of demons being real proves their existence by his seething remarks, if nothing else.
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Yes I do. Ask many locked up for committing a terrible senseless murder and they'll tell you they don't even know they did it cept that it is obvious due to clues and dna ect that they did. You have to ask/pray protection from these entities thru the Blood of Christ. At one time people sacrificed a lamb for prtection but the spotless lamb named Jesus died for us and offered us Power over these evil entities taking over our souls. There is power in the Blood.
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of course they can
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They occupy a spiritual place, the unseen dimensions right in front of our own eyes, and all around us. There is another world coexisting right alongside of us, but yet we are third-eye blinded as to what goes on. It is literally RIGHT THERE invisibly cohabiting our world.

They are the ones who flood your thoughts with negative things, scenarios, ideas. More so if you're a true follower of Christ, they encircle you like a swarm of locusts. They are true spiritual scum, and the Lord CANNOT WAIT until the time comes for all the dimensions to be purged of their wickedness. They are an abomination to Him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1509082


This is exactly right. They are around us at all times. Anyone who has experienced depression, anxiety, unreasonable fear or anger, all the varieties of mental disorders (pretty much all of us)are being manipulated by these creatures. Noting all the family oriented murder suicides lately, it would seem that they are on the warpath, as this is a favorite method of theirs.

They force these ideas into people's minds and use a repetition of negative suggestions/catchphrases that are only heard through the human subconscious, people recognize these suggestions as their own thoughts. They continue until the victim is broken down and just goes through with -Insert negative act- usually of a perverse sexual nature or suicide/murder-suicide.
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... the vacuum of space is so powerful...
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Out of the mouths of babes.

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I was present when someone I cared about shot himself in the head and died in my arms. We were arguing and he said I'll just kill myself then as he was moving toward the gun I saw his physical presence change. He had lashes all over his shirtless chest and stood before me as his beautiful eyes turned black and the gun went off piercing his skull and spraying his brain matter on the floor in front of me. I have seen a demon take a life with my own eyes.
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Yes they can.

May I get a few things clear in regards to ouiji boards firstly.

A ouji board as you know and love them is actually designed for only one person to use. Other people sit at the table and ask questions to the ouiji user. It was designed as a role play game where the role player took on the role of a medium.

Ouiji board demands that the user or medium is possessed by invocation. It cant work any other way. The idea that a ouiji board is designed for the spirit to move the planchette is mere Hollywood. Im not saying its impossible for a spirit to do such, but it is not what the ouiji board was designed for.

So you sit around a table you dont all put your paws on the planchette, one person does the reader that is also a medium and the others ask the medium questions. PERIOD.

You can get specific ouiji boards designed for multiple 'players' the letters are in a circle with a specialised planchette for multiple hands/fingers purpose.

Back in the day that ouiji boards were developed spiritualism was de rigeur and people had their scenaces at home as a bit of fun. The wanna be medium so to speak - a role play game.

Do they work ? Well invocation is possible.

The problem with invocation is the potentiality of 'perfect possession' or at very least obsession (there are levels of spirit affectation or just mental understandings), which could lead to 'perfect possession' (very rare).

Here are some of the signs -

1 - The user becomes obsessed and starts to make decisions solely on the outcome of the board and what they might even think/start to believe is their guardian angel or likes.

2 - In becoming obsessed they usually will find their ties with the real world beginning to break down. They will become solitary and to some extent outsiders. You see just as to cure psychosis (psychosis possess an individual) there is a need for isolation of the sufferer, it is the same to induce possession often and in a spiritual sense.

3 - The user will start to keep strange hours - using their board into the late hours when most are asleep. This will cause sleep deprivation and breaks down the individual to crisis point, also affects school work in children and young adults blah blah blah. They become moody and all that goes with it, then they feel they dont fit in. This is not necessarily possession or 'perfect possession', but can be devastating nonetheless, and can lead to mental health breakdown and suicide, also drugs usage where 'peer' group pressure has a far greater chance of success, media programming has greater effect the whole kaboodle. If they then meet with 'like minded' people on internet forums and the likes they may get far deeper into the occult. NOT necessarily a bad thing in its own right, it just depends on the individuals' capacity to understand the risks etc, also the 'like minded' people.

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i wanted us to discuss this.
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grizzy There is nothing to discuss. Do you want to finish up like this guy.

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i believe they can try.

but then the question arises...why would they try?

and then the question arises...what happens if they fail in their effort?

then arises the statement...hope the demons got their affairs in order. Quantum Bombs.
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I think it's a cosmic game. According to some, our souls come into our bodies after a baby is 3 days old. Other souls, corrupt souls or angels, if you'd like, see the new soul enter the new baby, and they do everything they can to suppress it or corrupt it.

Sometimes they fail, but most of the time they win.

I think that's why we're hearing so many horrific stories about good young people, and babies, being murdered or abused, or driven to suicide. The yin-yang balance is overwhelmingly negative right now, and that's why a lot of people want 2012 to be the time when the scales tip over to enlightenment, or positivity.
 Quoting: El Chupacabra


Things got worse after 2012
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do you believe demons can cause suicide and murder?
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Yes.
They feed on negative emotions...as does EVIL overall.
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They are real. Protip, they are also cold, black, and flat. Not kidding abou the flat.
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Re: do you believe demons can cause suicide and murder?
no,stop the blame game,people are responsible for their own actions.
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That's exactly what they want you to think.
 Quoting: AlaLuna


Demons must respect the free will of humans, just as God does. They can suggest things, but they can't make you do anything against your will. Nor can they harm or kill you without God's permission.
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Why Did Muhammad Attempt Suicide?
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Re: do you believe demons can cause suicide and murder?
They definitely encourage suicide. Their energy is suffocating.
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Re: do you believe demons can cause suicide and murder?
do you believe in demons, evil spirits. Spirits of the tormented deceased.

demon possession? The evil inspiring people, or possessing people to commit acts of suicide or murder?

Evil inhabitant of places?

Biblical reasoning, the devil came from the earth. inflicted job.

or other reason.

how about ouji boards?

All opinions and perspectives welcome. Religious or other based.

Have you ever felt pure evil, darkness, emptiness, sheer terror but could not explain why?

Personal experiences especially welcome.

After someone committing suicide i was reading up on it. Alot of claims where they said "something" kept telling them to try to kill themself. Often murderers claim similiar that something pushed them to do it. Excorcisms have been documented and there are spiritual guides that claim different "planes" of which spirits reside.

i wanted us to discuss this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1446051


Was suicidal when married.
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The ultimate seems to be for them to get us to kill ourselves; like Eve.
Let the facts fall wherever, whenever, and however they may.

INTP - The Logician. 'Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.' - Albert Einstein.
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when you play with the dark side, the dark side plays with you

humans are so finite and simple compared to them

people forget that "they" have been around for the entirety of human history, have studied human behavior that whole time
and know exactly what it takes to get someone into a self perpetuating behavior, including but not limited to suicidal / murderous etc. thoughts
oh hai!
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Re: do you believe demons can cause suicide and murder?
Without a doubt.

Look deeply into the story of the Conquest of the South Americas.

Hernan Cortez, and Monctazuma were both influenced by "other-worldly" beings, and look what occurred during that period of history.

One could be sure there are many other accounts of such occurrences throughout the world over a vast period of time.
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Demons (and vampires) are just metaphors for the ill traits of human existence.

A zombie is an individual that is easily transfixed.

yoda

We refer to good humans as Angels, Saints, and Gods.
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Re: do you believe demons can cause suicide and murder?
Yes I do believe this. I also believe, when we let evil in, it eventually punishes us-not by punishing US, but by destroying those we love the most, first.

Their ultimate goal is to make a person kill themselves. If only people can turn to God instead, as they are still terrified of God.

It is the only hope we all have. Stay close to God-ask for help. Pray out loud or read bible verses out loud. They will vanish if you do. They are real, they hate us more than anything, because we are made in the image of God.

This they cannot bear. They know their time is short also, and are frantic to destroy all they can. May God be with you, and angels surround and protect you all.
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I wish people would quit saying time is short or something will happen “soon”. We are stuck in this hell infinite loop. Life isn’t short, it’s long.
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Sometimes just being around certain people with attachments can lead to a deep depression and heavy energy. Demons are not always direct.
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Re: do you believe demons can cause suicide and murder?
do you believe in demons, evil spirits. Spirits of the tormented deceased.

demon possession? The evil inspiring people, or possessing people to commit acts of suicide or murder?

Evil inhabitant of places?

Biblical reasoning, the devil came from the earth. inflicted job.

or other reason.

how about ouji boards?

All opinions and perspectives welcome. Religious or other based.

Have you ever felt pure evil, darkness, emptiness, sheer terror but could not explain why?

Personal experiences especially welcome.

After someone committing suicide i was reading up on it. Alot of claims where they said "something" kept telling them to try to kill themself. Often murderers claim similiar that something pushed them to do it. Excorcisms have been documented and there are spiritual guides that claim different "planes" of which spirits reside.

i wanted us to discuss this.
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Yes, they create heavy suffocating stress.
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Re: do you believe demons can cause suicide and murder?
do you believe in demons, evil spirits. Spirits of the tormented deceased.

demon possession? The evil inspiring people, or possessing people to commit acts of suicide or murder?

Evil inhabitant of places?

Biblical reasoning, the devil came from the earth. inflicted job.

or other reason.

how about ouji boards?

All opinions and perspectives welcome. Religious or other based.

Have you ever felt pure evil, darkness, emptiness, sheer terror but could not explain why?

Personal experiences especially welcome.

After someone committing suicide i was reading up on it. Alot of claims where they said "something" kept telling them to try to kill themself. Often murderers claim similiar that something pushed them to do it. Excorcisms have been documented and there are spiritual guides that claim different "planes" of which spirits reside.

i wanted us to discuss this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1446051


I have survived one of these encounters. Good thing I didn't grow up in a house that practiced faith, or I might well believe those doing the 'pushing' were demon in likeness.
It was a several stage survival effort, because they came in various 'waves' of harassment after initial contact.

They weren't though, just people with abilities to effect from a distance. These skills can be multi faceted.
looking from another prospective they are spiritual criminals, using talent for harm instead of health and help.

I used a massive amount of energy one night to shift a nasty/group of revolting energies that were using the creek out back for hiding/hanging out, really nasty vibes mixed in with the wandering dead and the innocent.

Anyway, caused a ruckus, and got it off my chest.
Next morning a woman's husband trespassed on our property to 'come have a word with me'.
Offered apologies as best I could considering it wasn't directed at their house, and said they are more than welcome to come speak about it, if they needed to.
'That's not how it works' says his disrespectful snotty young daughter, like I'm beneath them.

Last night instead of 'happy new year', I got

"next time I will dig your grave"
from the natives of elsewhere, down the back.

Maybe nasty spiritual racist energy was coming from their house and not the creek? It certainly exists down the other side of the creek as a bloke had called one of their kids a monkey and nearly got drowned for the insult.
I don't know, sometimes it's non directional but right in front of you. And very disruptive and negative to the general well being of an environment.

Other times 'incoming' information can be gentle and enlightening.

I switched something on a while ago, (a particular meditation technique) and since then have really just been watching the results and responses, and coping with what responds as best I can.

I wont be bullied by the dead or the living.
I'm fucking over it.

Most are supremely selfish creatures.
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Re: do you believe demons can cause suicide and murder?
i believe they can try.

but then the question arises...why would they try?

and then the question arises...what happens if they fail in their effort?

then arises the statement...hope the demons got their affairs in order. Quantum Bombs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9150498


I think it's a cosmic game. According to some, our souls come into our bodies after a baby is 3 days old. Other souls, corrupt souls or angels, if you'd like, see the new soul enter the new baby, and they do everything they can to suppress it or corrupt it.

Sometimes they fail, but most of the time they win.

I think that's why we're hearing so many horrific stories about good young people, and babies, being murdered or abused, or driven to suicide. The yin-yang balance is overwhelmingly negative right now, and that's why a lot of people want 2012 to be the time when the scales tip over to enlightenment, or positivity.
 Quoting: El Chupacabra


Yin Yang, bubba are you real? WTF do you smoke, get some help with your new age stuff, trust in Jesus and fuck off.





GLP