Natural Medicine to continue to be taught in Aussie Universities - Sydney Morning Herald Poll 'RIGGED' against

Listen you little shit! I work for a big pharma company and you little fucks don't know what the hell is good for you. You just STFU and we'll TELL you what it is you're supposed to be taking.

"You don't need a university to teach natural medicine"

-- me, just then.

When did it all begin Nex. I swear we had more rights and freedoms in the old days, then gradually as time goes by, we find that there are more and more rules which have an adverse affect on us..

I can barely move without having to pay tax.

I am waiting for the backyard gardener to be told we can no longer legally grown food ourselves.

This will be the first step in outlawing natural Medicines altogether.
Universities should teach them and Doctors should learn about them, but I guess the kickbacks dont pay as well as big pharma

I voted and at the time it was 43 for and 57 against...why would anybody be against it...they dont have to attend class if they are not interested

It began many decades ago with the dairy industry. Apart from the commercial incentives to supply your milk to a central 'dairy' or supplier - the govt sent out 'inspectors' to every tiny valley and family farm around Australia, and forced them via coercion and threats to stop supplying whole milk directly to anyone. They forced it all to go via a central system - and they got away with it.

Then there were other little signs on the road - like banning comfrey about 20 years ago.

Since then it has been an unrelenting war against every importer, every manufacturer, and every supplier of ANY natural health supplement or device. This war is fought away from the public eye, and it is between businesses and govt departments such as the TGA or the ACCC. Even if the private sector 'win', they are silenced from talking about it to anyone with 'non-disclosure agreements'.

There are regular 'testings of the water' by the drug-company funded lobby groups - to see just how strong the public sympathy and support for alt medicines are. The sceptic groups are just tools used by the drug companies to get rid of the competition.

And yes, they are coming after Farmer's Markets next - so speak up now and often.

Comfrey has not been banned, but has received a higher poisons classification than arsenic and belladonna.



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Must get me some

Yes, 'banned' was not the correct word. I should have said prohibited for internal use in Australia by legislation, which placed it on the Poisons Schedule.

In 1984 the National Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC) listed comfrey as a dangerous poison, only to be available through pharmacists, by doctor’s prescription.

Update:

Many people doing that Poll conducted by the Sydney Morning Herald reported that it was being obviously rigged in favour of the skeptics.
Turns out this was correct! It WAS being manipulated to make it appear that support was AGAINST alt medicine.

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The manipulation of an smh.com.au poll has again thrown the spotlight on online voting.

Late last month the Herald reported on a lobby group of more than 400 doctors, medical researchers and scientists - dubbed Friends of Science in Medicine - that is pressuring universities to close down alternative medicine degrees, arguing the practices have no scientific basis.

On February 4, several experts were interviewed for a new article on the topic and the story was accompanied by an online poll asking readers "Should universities teach alternative medicine?"

Voting progressed steadily at first but on Tuesday votes began skyrocketing from about 125,000 to more than 877,000 by the time voting closed on Thursday. The end result was 71 per cent "no", 29 per cent "yes".

The number of votes in the poll was about eight times more than the number of online readers of the story, a clear indicator that the poll had been gamed. Fairfax technical staff said the poll logs all but confirmed that the voting had been manipulated.

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From: The Sydney Morning Herald, 10th February 2012:

[link to www.smh.com.au]