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Two cases of Mad Cow Disease in same county in California!

 
Missouri Foxtrotter  (OP)

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werent they saying that alot of people may have it, its just laying dormant in their bodies?
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Mercola says it can lie dormant for up to 30 years:

The findings of the inquiry into a cluster of variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD) cases -- the human version of mad cow disease -- suggest the fatal disease has an average incubation period of 30 years and may claim thousands or tens of thousands more victims.

[link to www.mercola.com]

I do that once it goes active, the patients I have taken care of are dead within a month. Wide awake, unable to talk, and look to be in agony the whole time with distorted body movements that no medicine seems to help.
 Quoting: Missouri Foxtrotter


Prions are ubiquitous in deer populations as well.
 Quoting: Girl Genius


We have seen the deer affected by "wasting" disease in the Applegate hunting region in our area. Could this be the same thing? Hunters are told to call Fish & Game. They collect the teeth and send it in to a lab.
 Quoting: Southern OR


It is similar, another prion disease. It seems strange that deer could get a disease relegated to carnivores, but they tend to graze in the same areas, and when one deer dies, the grass grows a little greener where it decomposes, and the healthy deer end up consuming the infected neural tissue with the green grass.
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OMG only thing to do is put all those nuclear weapons Obama wants to get rid of into the San Andreas Fault an hope it floats California out to sea. Seams a good enough reason for me.
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Research: mad cow + canola oil
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better: mad cow copper deficiency manganese poisoning.

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Mercola says it can lie dormant for up to 30 years:

The findings of the inquiry into a cluster of variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD) cases -- the human version of mad cow disease -- suggest the fatal disease has an average incubation period of 30 years and may claim thousands or tens of thousands more victims.

[link to www.mercola.com]

I do that once it goes active, the patients I have taken care of are dead within a month. Wide awake, unable to talk, and look to be in agony the whole time with distorted body movements that no medicine seems to help.
 Quoting: Missouri Foxtrotter


Prions are ubiquitous in deer populations as well.
 Quoting: Girl Genius


We have seen the deer affected by "wasting" disease in the Applegate hunting region in our area. Could this be the same thing? Hunters are told to call Fish & Game. They collect the teeth and send it in to a lab.
 Quoting: Southern OR


It is similar, another prion disease. It seems strange that deer could get a disease relegated to carnivores, but they tend to graze in the same areas, and when one deer dies, the grass grows a little greener where it decomposes, and the healthy deer end up consuming the infected neural tissue with the green grass.
 Quoting: Missouri Foxtrotter

Fish & Game department blames it on people feeding the deer like pets. Makes me wonder about GMO produce too. But I think your idea is correct, they eat the grass that has been infected.
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Sporadic CJD has been linked to high manganese/copper ratios in local soil and foodstuffs. It seems too much intake of Mn or too little Cu could be a risk factor.

As it happens, most vitamin/mineral supplements contain substantial amounts of Mn with little or no Cu.
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02/16/2012 11:15 PM
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so what are the early symptoms? If you had it, it would be good to be able to bail out before the agonizing death.
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Missouri Foxtrotter  (OP)

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Found a video of the first victim who died.

[link to abclocal.go.com]

She was the director of an organization called LITA (Love is the answer), and apparently lived in the UK in 1990 when the large outbreak of mad cow disease occured.
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[link to www.cdc.gov]
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Ok, time to go Vegan! But if it lies dormant then I am screwed! But what if it is not dormant, then I need to go Vegan! Or enjoy the time I have left! Ah hell, enjoy life all this is crazy, can't dodge all the bullets at the same time! banana2
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so what are the early symptoms? If you had it, it would be good to be able to bail out before the agonizing death.
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[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

Symptoms

Blurred vision (sometimes)

Changes in gait (walking)

Confusion, disorientation

Dementia that occurs over a few weeks or months

Hallucinations

Lack of coordination (for example, stumbling and falling)

Muscle stiffness

Muscle twitching

Myoclonic jerks or seizures

Nervous, jumpy feelings

Personality changes

Sleepiness

Speech impairment
Missouri Foxtrotter  (OP)

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so what are the early symptoms? If you had it, it would be good to be able to bail out before the agonizing death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1175610


the problem is you lose your mind first, so probably wouldn't have the wherewithall to end things on your own terms.

The sad thing about these patients is that they are in such agony, with such fear in their eyes, and if you try to comfort them, it only seems to make it worse.
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No way! That coincides with the angry chickens in Missouri!lolatu
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Don't want to eat fish anymore because of fukishima, don't eat pork , what they want to do with chickens and now beef. I live 20 miles from Marin.hiding
If you woke up breathing, you have another chance!
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so what are the early symptoms? If you had it, it would be good to be able to bail out before the agonizing death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1175610


By "bail out" you mean "Spare your friends and family the pain" of watching you, their loved one, degenerate into a twitching mass of incoherence as your brain shuts down?

Sorry, this desease mimicks many other curable deseases in it's early stages versus other well known deseases. Read through the symptoms and you will get it. Its probably the most insidious desease that anyone could manufacture.

Symptoms
•Blurred vision (sometimes)

•Changes in gait (walking)

•Confusion, disorientation

•Dementia that occurs over a few weeks or months

•Hallucinations

•Lack of coordination (for example, stumbling and falling)

•Muscle stiffness

•Muscle twitching

•Myoclonic jerks or seizures

•Nervous, jumpy feelings

•Personality changes

•Sleepiness

•Speech impairment


The disease can only be confirmed with a brain biopsy or autopsy.


[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

If you want to really be safe, become a vegetarian or raise your own meat. Maybe Titor WAS right.

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This thread is a hypochondriac's banquet.
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Research: mad cow + canola oil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10882066


better: mad cow copper deficiency manganese poisoning.

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 Quoting: Instant Karma


Here is some back-up for you.

Copper Helps Control Deadly Prion Protein Infection
[link to www.copper.org]
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My father told me years ago, before his death, that Mad Cow disease has already infected a large part of the population and was a ticking time bomb waiting to go off.

He said that the incubation period can last for up to 25 to 30 years or more.

Why does that matter? He was a molecular biologist specialising in diseases of the brain contracted through food and water. He worked for the RPC in Canada.

Most of his work was classified and his research was paid for by both the US and Canadian taxpayer.

[link to www.rpc.ca]
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Research: mad cow + canola oil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10882066


better: mad cow copper deficiency manganese poisoning.

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 Quoting: Instant Karma


Here is some back-up for you.

Copper Helps Control Deadly Prion Protein Infection
[link to www.copper.org]
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Copper is about to become THE precious metal. Maybe. ;)
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Was one Pelosi ?? I've always thought something was wrong with her.
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Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease is not Bovine spongiform encephalopathy. I cannot understand why you make the two one with your sill thinking title. My guess some people have nothing better to do.
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You got a brain, use it.
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and the dead shall walk the earth ... this is the zombie desease ... it is a zombie virus , the only way to kill it is with fire ....

get ready for the bse zombie plague , ive been saying this for years ...
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Shut the fuck up you tool. BSE is not an opportunity for you to exercise your tediously prdictable and facile commentary.
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for some it could be purely astinishing straight from when it happened you just yep the fact are there! yak
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And so it begins...
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Research: mad cow + canola oil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10882066


better: mad cow copper deficiency manganese poisoning.

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 Quoting: Instant Karma


Here is some back-up for you.

Copper Helps Control Deadly Prion Protein Infection
[link to www.copper.org]
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Copper is about to become THE precious metal. Maybe. ;)
 Quoting: jailarson


Gold, silver, copper and a whole host of other trace metals play an important part in electronics and any could be a good investment if you can afford them after other areas more critical survival areas concerning food are well stocked.

If the economy collapses, or our food supply disrupted then what might the value of a pound of salt, beans or heirloom seeds might become so I would not worry too much about having a bounty of precious metals.
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Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease is not Bovine spongiform encephalopathy. I cannot understand why you make the two one with your sill thinking title. My guess some people have nothing better to do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10810550


Mad Cow Disease: Stop the Madness!

Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD): A human TSE. The classic form of CJD appears to arise spontaneously, but the so-called "new variant" of CJD (nvCJD) is now known to be the human equivalent of mad cow disease thought to be contracted by eating contaminated beef.

[link to www.organicconsumers.org]

New study finds that mad cow disease can be transmitted through the air

A shocking new study has found that mad cow disease can be transmitted through the air. Prior to the study, it was believed that humans could only be infected through consumption of food products from infected cows, contaminated surgical instruments or blood transfusions. The new findings raise serious questions about airborne transmission risks, particularly among people who work in science labs and meat and animal feed facilities.

Mad cow disease is the popular term for "bovine spongiform encephalopathy" (BSE), a fatal neurodegenerative disease in cattle that causes a spongy degeneration in the brain and spinal cord. The disease is transmitted by tiny micro-organisms known as prions. Five known human prion diseases exist, including Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, as well as six non-human diseases, including scrapie, chronic wasting disease and mad cow disease (which sometimes jumps to humans through contaminated meat).

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I TRIED TO TELL YOU HOPELESS FOOLS.

CIVIL WAR SOON.


AND DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE ASSASSINATION OF THE NEW ABRAHAM LINCOLN.

YOU KNOW WHO HE IS.

GOT MY IBM AND I'M OUTTA HERE.
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I just had a big juicy burger with lettuce, tomato, onion, melted swiss and avocado.

Mmmmmm
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Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease is not Bovine spongiform encephalopathy. I cannot understand why you make the two one with your sill thinking title. My guess some people have nothing better to do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10810550


Quote from op's article:
"Laboratory tests have ruled out mad cow-related disease, called variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob, in one of the Marin County cases. The other case is still under investigation but public health officials suspect it, too, is unrelated to mad cow disease."

Blatant alarmist fear mongering.......your title is wrong and misleading......a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
I would suggest doing some more indepth research before posting false info!





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