Is it true a “natural born citizen” is a birth child of TWO legal US citizens ? OBAMA DAD KENYAN ? | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11837056 Germany 03/03/2012 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Is it true a “natural born citizen” is a birth child of TWO legal US citizens ? OBAMA DAD KENYAN ? always thought the central argument, regardless of any racist or xenophobic undertones was that the facts don't comply with the ius solis principle i.e. Obama was simply born outside the USA and his mother claimed both kenyan and indonesian citizenship for him. |
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User ID: 1117015 United States 03/03/2012 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Is it true a “natural born citizen” is a birth child of TWO legal US citizens ? OBAMA DAD KENYAN ? [link to immigration.findlaw.com] Birth on American soil is the requirement, why do you think so many Mexicans cross the border to give birth? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11676949 United Kingdom 03/03/2012 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Is it true a “natural born citizen” is a birth child of TWO legal US citizens ? OBAMA DAD KENYAN ? I'm an American married to a British citizen and I gave birth here in the UK. I was legally entitled to apply for and receive a birth certificate for my child from the American Embassy here in London - it registers a foreign birth of an American citizen. Whilst handing over his completed certificate, the Embassy staff stated to him "and you too can now be president some day".... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11851394 United States 03/03/2012 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Is it true a “natural born citizen” is a birth child of TWO legal US citizens ? OBAMA DAD KENYAN ? I'm an American married to a British citizen and I gave birth here in the UK. I was legally entitled to apply for and receive a birth certificate for my child from the American Embassy here in London - it registers a foreign birth of an American citizen. Whilst handing over his completed certificate, the Embassy staff stated to him "and you too can now be president some day".... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11676949 Sorry, duel citizenship does not count. And the reason Article II Section I is in there; so we do not have what we have here now, a rogue perp. without America's best interests at heart. Hussein represents a Clear and Present Danger to these United States of America. |
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Redcat User ID: 11667562 United States 03/03/2012 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Is it true a “natural born citizen” is a birth child of TWO legal US citizens ? OBAMA DAD KENYAN ? Supreme Court case Minor v. Happersett defines natural born Citizen. If any says "natural born Citizen" is not defined - point them to Minor v. Happersett. It is clear. From the ruling: "All children born in the country to parents who are citizens — These are the natural born citizens. " |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10630985 United Kingdom 03/03/2012 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Is it true a “natural born citizen” is a birth child of TWO legal US citizens ? OBAMA DAD KENYAN ? Supreme Court case Minor v. Happersett defines natural born Citizen. Quoting: Redcat1 If any says "natural born Citizen" is not defined - point them to Minor v. Happersett. It is clear. From the ruling: "All children born in the country to parents who are citizens — These are the natural born citizens. " That would appear to be absolutely definitive. Which means Obarkyfraud (whose putative father was a British subject at the time) is NOT a "natural born citizen", and is therefore ineligible to be TOTUS/POTUS. |
Redcat1
Redcat User ID: 11667562 United States 03/03/2012 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Is it true a “natural born citizen” is a birth child of TWO legal US citizens ? OBAMA DAD KENYAN ? I'm an American married to a British citizen and I gave birth here in the UK. I was legally entitled to apply for and receive a birth certificate for my child from the American Embassy here in London - it registers a foreign birth of an American citizen. Whilst handing over his completed certificate, the Embassy staff stated to him "and you too can now be president some day".... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11676949 They are wrong. Your child qualified for American Citizenship from the moment of birth but is not a natural born Citizen. But they also qualified (and I assume are considered) British Citizenship through your husband. And so like the current holder of the office your child is a dual citizen - from the moment of birth. Your child will retain the right to claim their British Citizenship forever. The only way to fully renounce it is through form RN. RN is the official form to fully and formally renounce British Citizenship. If you do not fill this form out you can always be considered a British Citizen. And the current President has not apparently filed one of these. So he could claim his British Citizenship any time. Even as President. It would seem that is exactly what the 'natural born' clause was designed to prevent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2150378 Poland 03/03/2012 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Is it true a “natural born citizen” is a birth child of TWO legal US citizens ? OBAMA DAD KENYAN ? I'm an American married to a British citizen and I gave birth here in the UK. I was legally entitled to apply for and receive a birth certificate for my child from the American Embassy here in London - it registers a foreign birth of an American citizen. Whilst handing over his completed certificate, the Embassy staff stated to him "and you too can now be president some day".... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11676949 The Embassy semployee who told you that is full of shit. Sorry, but your son is not eligible to run for president. He is a dual citizen, not a natural born citizen. They are mutually exclusive categories. In case you are wondering, Obama was not properly vetted, and now we have a Constitutional crisis in the making. All of his judiical appointments will need to be rescinded, as well as all the laws he signed and executive orders he issued. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2150378 Poland 03/03/2012 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Is it true a “natural born citizen” is a birth child of TWO legal US citizens ? OBAMA DAD KENYAN ? I'm an American married to a British citizen and I gave birth here in the UK. I was legally entitled to apply for and receive a birth certificate for my child from the American Embassy here in London - it registers a foreign birth of an American citizen. Whilst handing over his completed certificate, the Embassy staff stated to him "and you too can now be president some day".... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11676949 They are wrong. Your child qualified for American Citizenship from the moment of birth but is not a natural born Citizen. But they also qualified (and I assume are considered) British Citizenship through your husband. And so like the current holder of the office your child is a dual citizen - from the moment of birth. Your child will retain the right to claim their British Citizenship forever. The only way to fully renounce it is through form RN. RN is the official form to fully and formally renounce British Citizenship. If you do not fill this form out you can always be considered a British Citizen. And the current President has not apparently filed one of these. So he could claim his British Citizenship any time. Even as President. It would seem that is exactly what the 'natural born' clause was designed to prevent. ^^^ This. Well done. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2150378 Poland 03/03/2012 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Is it true a “natural born citizen” is a birth child of TWO legal US citizens ? OBAMA DAD KENYAN ? In most situations, any child that is born in the United States or one of its territories will automatically receive American citizenship. Quoting: MacElroy [link to immigration.findlaw.com] Birth on American soil is the requirement, why do you think so many Mexicans cross the border to give birth? Yes and no. Yes, they will be a US citizen unless the law is changed. No, that does not make the child a natural born citizen. This includes Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2150378 Poland 03/03/2012 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Is it true a “natural born citizen” is a birth child of TWO legal US citizens ? OBAMA DAD KENYAN ? In most situations, any child that is born in the United States or one of its territories will automatically receive American citizenship. Quoting: MacElroy [link to immigration.findlaw.com] Birth on American soil is the requirement, why do you think so many Mexicans cross the border to give birth? Yes and no. Yes, they will be a US citizen unless the law is changed. No, that does not make the child a natural born citizen. This includes Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal. |
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