Attentive but unaware - Conscious Perception Has Little to Do With Primary Visual Cortex | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6493463 United States 06/05/2012 01:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Scientists are pretty sure that the terminal areas of the visual system, such as the regions that process shape and color or motion, are likely to be heavily modulated by awareness," says Watanabe. "But where exactly this modulation starts is still an open question." Quoting: Funney 11648979 [link to www.sciencedaily.com] "To tell the truth, three years ago I would not have believed this result," says Watanabe. "I don't think the 'Battle of V1' is fully settled, but these data could imply that the modern homunculus model may be true." Never thought I'd see the phrase "primary visual cortex" on this web site. What, did you take a wrong turn whilst looking for the Journal of Neurophysiology? I studied this stuff and there's a good bit of non-aware stuff going on in V1 I think they call it. A lot of the visual illusions like Mach Bands happen there. Also peripheral vision is pretty involuntary: it's hard NOT to look at motion or blinking. There's motion aftereffect, completely outside any kind of conscious control. And the crazy stuff with red-green equiluminant drifting gratings that stop drifting. Finally V1 of cats is remarkably similar to ours. So sure cats may have some awareness but a homunculus? More like a felinculus I guess. Ha ha! Thanks for bringing a touch of class to the neigborhood pub. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6493463 United States 06/05/2012 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How did they shift your thinking? For me, studying vision made me realize that we see the world through a mechanism. This mechanism has properties and so we are not seeing the world exactly as it is, but rather altered by the properties of the mechanism. For me, that was a deep realization. I still recall one night driving home late from school, around midnight, and see the streetlights reflecting off cars. And thinking, these cars are cold lifeless lumps of metal, yet the light and the reflections are beautiful to me. |
Funney User ID: 16648342 Czechia 06/05/2012 05:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How did they shift your thinking? Ok this will be somewhat long, but i am not so good in your language :( For me, studying vision made me realize that we see the world through a mechanism. This mechanism has properties and so we are not seeing the world exactly as it is, but rather altered by the properties of the mechanism. For me, that was a deep realization. I still recall one night driving home late from school, around midnight, and see the streetlights reflecting off cars. And thinking, these cars are cold lifeless lumps of metal, yet the light and the reflections are beautiful to me. I find it very satisfying that someones attention is very similiar to mine. I also follow light :D In 2004 i lost best friend, we shared a lot. Despite this, i did not felt his inner pain in the sense that he would make "the decission" to take pack up :( From this moment i closed. I wanted to bring more understanding between people about people! I wanted something more solving than predjudices and things people dont talk about. I wanted transparent world with smiling people. So i hightened my attention and began following thoughts and processes, timings and triggers. My own beahviour started to make more and more sense. I was like in another world. Still maintaining the old one with all my beloved souls, but progressing hard inside. From the outside i began to open again and was again smiling, it was again me, the explorer! From 2005 i took a ride in many fields, always following my curiosity (which as i felt, was the best vector, something like an ideal of me... perhaps the soul!) If i should summ it up, i would say i study INFLUENCE. So when i would be sharing more than my friend years before, then perhaps people would be nicer to each other, valuing their lives more than any material they meet. |