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I'm calling bullshit on the Afghan Shooting...

 
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I'm calling bullshit on the Afghan Shooting...
After reading all the various accounts two things have occurred to me.

1. The attack was ordered (Why? I have no fucking clue)

And

2. There were definitely more involved than the purported lone soldier

Maybe the headline is masking the real event. You can never tell with Special Forces. Those dudes are always into gnarly shit.

Tough situation all the way around at any rate, very sad. Maybe the warmongers will shut the fuck up for a second and let the peacemakers take the bullhorn.

Enough of this madness...

Last Edited by Iconoclastics on 03/13/2012 02:30 AM
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Something is definitely not right. First it was a lone soldier, then he was with a group. Then I heard it was Marines. Something is screwy with the reports on this. Is there anyone out there with an eye witness account that is not filled up with BS?
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Re: I'm calling bullshit on the Afghan Shooting...
After reading all the various accounts two things have occurred to me.

1. The attack was ordered (Why? I have no fucking clue)

 Quoting: Iconoclastics


First thing I thought, but why?
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From Balandi, the gunman walked roughly one mile to the village of Alkozai, which was only about 500 meters from the American military base. There the gunman killed four people in one house and then moved to Zahir's house, where he shot his father in the leg.

Some Afghan officials and local villagers expressed doubt that a single U.S. soldier could have carried out all the killings and burned the bodies afterward.

'It is not possible for only one American soldier to come out of his base, kill a number of people far away, burn the bodies, go to another house and kill civilians there, then walk at least 2 kilometers and enter another house, kill civilians and burn them,' said Abdul Rahim Ayubi, a lawmaker from Kandahar province who visited the area today.

Some villagers also told officials there were multiple soldiers and heard shooting from different directions. But many others said they only saw a single soldier.

NATO insisted there was only one gunman.


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Is there anyone out there with an eye witness account that is not filled up with BS?
 Quoting: asymetriclogic


Funny about that most eye witnesses are dead....
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After reading all the various accounts two things have occurred to me.

1. The attack was ordered (Why? I have no fucking clue)

 Quoting: Iconoclastics


First thing I thought, but why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11475650


I don't know. But by all accounts the moves seemed calculated and deliberate. Not manic or emotional.
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Re: I'm calling bullshit on the Afghan Shooting...
If you don't even have a theory as to why, it makes it hard to believe you.

It is a lot more credible to think that the guy went nuts and killed those people. He did confess, BTW.
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If you don't even have a theory as to why, it makes it hard to believe you.

It is a lot more credible to think that the guy went nuts and killed those people. He did confess, BTW.
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[link to edition.cnn.com]

At first they said he was drunk, but no mention now of that.

...
"There was new information Monday about the soldier accused of the killings. A Department of Defense official told CNN the man, a staff sergeant, was a qualified infantry sniper, trained to hit to kill at about 800 meters. He had spent three tours of duty in Iraq, where he suffered a traumatic brain injury in a 2010 vehicle accident.

But village tribal leaders said their people can't comprehend how a trained professional soldier could have acted alone and done such a thing."
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If you don't even have a theory as to why, it makes it hard to believe you.

It is a lot more credible to think that the guy went nuts and killed those people. He did confess, BTW.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2148082


I'm not suggesting he didn't do it and maybe it went down exactly as they say it did. But based upon all versions something is definitely off.

The questions are: was he "ordered" in some capacity to carry out this maneuver? Were there parallel operations happening and were others involved?
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Re: I'm calling bullshit on the Afghan Shooting...
If you don't even have a theory as to why, it makes it hard to believe you.

It is a lot more credible to think that the guy went nuts and killed those people. He did confess, BTW.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2148082


Well shit, finally, somebody who was there, tell us the rest of the story!
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I'm glad that you posted this because I'm kind of feeling the same way, that there's something about the narrative that they're trying to sell that just doesn't seem right. I'll be curious to see how this pans out.
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Only US media is reporting a lone gunmen, any other media is reporting "several soldiers"!
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This means - yankee go home!!!
Get your killers home and let them to kill each other.
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If you don't even have a theory as to why, it makes it hard to believe you.

It is a lot more credible to think that the guy went nuts and killed those people. He did confess, BTW.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2148082


Well shit, finally, somebody who was there, tell us the rest of the story!
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Going with the Pentagon contractor theory... the reason for the mass shooting of civilians "burning bodies" ect was the same as the staged koran burning event - to cause instability in the region. The Pentagon is in Afghanistan, Iraq and the rest of the middle east to cause instability. This results in the Afghans emigrating into Europe, Canada, USA Aus & even Russia - by design. You and I are the real target of these wars!

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Only US media is reporting a lone gunmen, any other media is reporting "several soldiers"!
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Only US media is reporting a lone gunmen, any other media is reporting "several soldiers"!
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An Afghan teenager who survived a rampage by a rogue American soldier told on Monday how the gunman coldly executed several members of his family and even "insulted" his victims as he carried out the massacre. The 15-year-old said the soldier was running after women and tearing at their dresses as he roamed his uncle's house.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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Re: I'm calling bullshit on the Afghan Shooting...
After reading all the various accounts two things have occurred to me.

1. The attack was ordered (Why? I have no fucking clue)

And

2. There were definitely more involved than the purported lone soldier

Maybe the headline is masking the real event. You can never tell with Special Forces. Those dudes are always into gnarly shit.

Tough situation all the way around at any rate, very sad. Maybe the warmongers will shut the fuck up for a second and let the peacemakers take the bullhorn.

Enough of this madness...
 Quoting: Iconoclastics


IN THE MILITARY
U.S. SHOOTER IN AFGHANISTAN MENTALLY ILL?
'Suffered traumatic brain injury when Humvee flipped in Iraq'
Published: 3 hours ago
(DAILY MAIL) — The U.S. soldier who killed 16 Afghan villagers, including nine children, had suffered a traumatic brain injury when his vehicle over-turned on a previous tour of Iraq but was cleared for active service, it was revealed today.

The father-of-two, 38, who has not been named, was today in U.S. custody, accused of killing the civilians in their homes on Saturday night and then burning some of the corpses – 11 victims were members of the same family.

Military officials said that the soldier was trained as a sniper after he had undergone mental health screening and passed in 2008.

The Army sergeant was believed to have been having marital problems and had trouble reintegrating to society following his last tour of Iraq – but had ‘worked through’ his issues.
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it all seams very convinient just as barry the kenyan wants his boys home subdueing the natives at home
all this happens to undo all the supossed good of the mission statment
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Panetta says "war is hell" and it wont change the mission.

So I guess all is good
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Never believe anything the MSM say,
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After reading all the various accounts two things have occurred to me.

1. The attack was ordered (Why? I have no fucking clue)

 Quoting: Iconoclastics


First thing I thought, but why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11475650


I don't know. But by all accounts the moves seemed calculated and deliberate. Not manic or emotional.
 Quoting: Iconoclastics


what killing kids in there sleep is real big hero eh?
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Only US media is reporting a lone gunmen, any other media is reporting "several soldiers"!
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An Afghan teenager who survived a rampage by a rogue American soldier told on Monday how the gunman coldly executed several members of his family and even "insulted" his victims as he carried out the massacre. The 15-year-old said the soldier was running after women and tearing at their dresses as he roamed his uncle's house.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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do we have a face to this low life scum bag yet?
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Thread: EVERY MAJOR EVENT IN THIS WORLD IS FAKED! Everything is a PSYOP!!!!

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[link to edition.cnn.com]

At first they said he was drunk, but no mention now of that.

...
"There was new information Monday about the soldier accused of the killings. A Department of Defense official told CNN the man, a staff sergeant, was a qualified infantry sniper, trained to hit to kill at about 800 meters. He had spent three tours of duty in Iraq, where he suffered a traumatic brain injury in a 2010 vehicle accident.

But village tribal leaders said their people can't comprehend how a trained professional soldier could have acted alone and done such a thing."
 Quoting: HANGFIRE


bump
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Re: I'm calling bullshit on the Afghan Shooting...
After reading all the various accounts two things have occurred to me.

1. The attack was ordered (Why? I have no fucking clue)

And

2. There were definitely more involved than the purported lone soldier

Maybe the headline is masking the real event. You can never tell with Special Forces. Those dudes are always into gnarly shit.

Tough situation all the way around at any rate, very sad. Maybe the warmongers will shut the fuck up for a second and let the peacemakers take the bullhorn.

Enough of this madness...
 Quoting: Iconoclastics


sometimes a massacre is just that.
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[link to uk.news.yahoo.com]

Obama did use the magic words 'lone gunman'.

Isn't that code for 'massive cover-up'
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I have a theory. I believe he followed a Taliban villager on orders. Bc an important asset to his team was prob killed by someone in that village I then believe villagers started killing their own and threw blame on him. Bc these people strap bombs to their own wives and children all the time. I have a hard time believing this story villagers are telling bc it's changing.
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The first thing that popped into my head when I heard this story was "manchurian candidate".
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Imagine this happening while Bush was still in office. It would be on the news 24/7 for weeks. There would be cries for immedite pullout, Bush is a warmonger etc..
Next there would be calls to arrest Bush for war crimes and bitching about the cost of this war everyday.
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Re: I'm calling bullshit on the Afghan Shooting...
It's interesting they won't post his name. Also that it's riled up the country wanting revenge. They wanted to make an effigy of Obama and burn it. I think the motive is to get the hate going and put another false flag in place.





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