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Remote Viewing Discussion -- future times / places / spontaneous OBEs

 
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So my husband and I are practicing -- he's much better at it than me.

Last night I was prompting him and he was describing what he saw.

He saw me, in a furniture store, probably 15 years from now, looking at some sort of book case. As I left the store, he looked around and got some snippets of information, including seeing the courthouse / city hall and some words from a window or sign outside of the store.

He saw:

Mount or MT
Station 26
'PIMS' or 'pims' or 'P.I.M.S.' (or something like it)

He also saw black pylons, 3 feet high, with black chain connecting them, like you might see around a town square somewhere.

Out of curiosity, we googled it...

It turns out that in Missoula, Montana (MT) that there is a small shopping center called Station 26. damned.

It is also fairly close to the Courthouse.

We didn't see any black pylons/chains on the google earth pictures, though admittedly those pictures are probably not current AND we also know that he was viewing sometime in the future.

He also saw me wearing his wedding ring on the thumb of my right hand.

Anyways, anyone else tried anything like this and gotten such good results? We decided that next time we try it, I should test him and try to get him to look at a place that I know about/have researched to see if he sees what I saw/is really there, etc.

He was wondering how he could have seen 'the future' and and I explained to him that all moments in time are 'in the now' and that the only reason we experience them linearly is because we are trapped in a meat body while we are here.

He has also been experiencing spontaneous OBEs while he's driving to work. He's concerned that this is dangerous (as am I, especially for other people on the road). Anyone with any information about this and why its happening now -- your comments would be appreciated. I told him I thought it could be due to stress, but I am not the one to ask. I don't have OBEs.

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Incidentally, he also saw me wearing 'stout' boots, almost a mountaineering style or hiking boot, and some sort of pants that he said reminded him or 'riding pants' but weren't riding pants. If that makes sense.

I was wearing my hair in a bun, and it had streaks of grey in it, but still plenty of color. And them he was quite certain that it was '15' years from now.
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There is tons of info. about it ..for what i read is better to have structure before and while in the experience so it doesnt happen randomly.
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Incidentally, I told him to RV March 28th, the Mississppi River and he saw:

Muddy Brown Water (the entire river). As he looked up the river and around the area, he saw:

a white hand and a blue flowered dress in the water -- the body was wearing a life vest of some sort, but it did not succeed in keeping the person afloat in the right way -- as if it were snagged by something, etc.

A stroller (pram) that was jammed in some debris

He saw lots of trees lining the water -- with very dark, papery bark, and some sort of moss hanging from the branches. (Spanish moss, maybe?)

He also saw, when he looked east, a 6-sided die, with the '2' showing.

***I forgot to add regarding the Mississippi River:

That he saw a bundle of steel cables that had either been cut or snapped and made him wonder if there had been some sort of bridge there at one point...
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There is tons of info. about it ..for what i read is better to have structure before and while in the experience so it doesnt happen randomly.
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Usually I just ask him to close his eyes and tell me what he sees. Then if something strikes me, I ask him questions.

The last two times, I tried directing him more. I gave him a date and he said he didn't know how to get to that date, so I told him to look at a calendar. I chose April 19th.

He looked at a calendar and got April 19th, 1979. And he was in his room as a child and described it to me.

Then I asked him where I was and he said he instantly zoomed to a scene with a young girl (around 6 years old, right age for me) in a kitchen, wearing a yellow dress (with the right hair style) and helping someone with a cake.

I don't remember that, but there were definitely pieces of information he couldn't have known ... so I asked my mom about it and she's going to look through some old photos to see if she can figure out where we were on that day or during that time.

That was when we decided maybe we were really onto something rather than just 'daydreaming'.
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Incidentally, I told him to RV March 28th, the Mississppi River and he saw:

Muddy Brown Water (the entire river). As he looked up the river and around the area, he saw:

a white hand and a blue flowered dress in the water -- the body was wearing a life vest of some sort, but it did not succeed in keeping the person afloat in the right way -- as if it were snagged by something, etc.

A stroller (pram) that was jammed in some debris

He saw lots of trees lining the water -- with very dark, papery bark, and some sort of moss hanging from the branches. (Spanish moss, maybe?)

He also saw, when he looked east, a 6-sided die, with the '2' showing.
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**I didn't give him a year, BTW, I left the year open. So this could have been something in the past just as easily as the future.
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There is tons of info. about it ..for what i read is better to have structure before and while in the experience so it doesnt happen randomly.
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Thanks. We are definitely going to try for more structure next time.
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I've never been able to see the future, but have been able to pick up on hidden truths via news, personal conclusions, etc... that conclude in a particular outcome. But as of lately, it is more unsure-the outcome possibly isn't certain. Either something larger than I have been trying to comprehend(I have a vivid imagination), or maybe less chaos? idk.
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Tand, you have to be cautious with guidance without structure. Analytical overlay(imagination) skews the results.



There is tons of info. about it ..for what i read is better to have structure before and while in the experience so it doesnt happen randomly.
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Usually I just ask him to close his eyes and tell me what he sees. Then if something strikes me, I ask him questions.

The last two times, I tried directing him more. I gave him a date and he said he didn't know how to get to that date, so I told him to look at a calendar. I chose April 19th.

He looked at a calendar and got April 19th, 1979. And he was in his room as a child and described it to me.

Then I asked him where I was and he said he instantly zoomed to a scene with a young girl (around 6 years old, right age for me) in a kitchen, wearing a yellow dress (with the right hair style) and helping someone with a cake.

I don't remember that, but there were definitely pieces of information he couldn't have known ... so I asked my mom about it and she's going to look through some old photos to see if she can figure out where we were on that day or during that time.

That was when we decided maybe we were really onto something rather than just 'daydreaming'.
 Quoting: tandym
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I've never been able to see the future, but have been able to pick up on hidden truths via news, personal conclusions, etc... that conclude in a particular outcome. But as of lately, it is more unsure-the outcome possibly isn't certain. Either something larger than I have been trying to comprehend(I have a vivid imagination), or maybe less chaos? idk.
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...speaking in more of a general term, not a specific instance. I think I'm wired backwards. When I'm tense about something happening, nothing happens. It seems something does when I have good vibes running.
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interesting
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what is the ratio of people who claim to be remote viewers/clairvoyant etc...who have, or have not done hallucinogens?

my guess would be greater than 60%.
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PIMS
Montana

got these links:

PIMS
Montana

[link to www.montana.edu]

PIMS
Montana
Know-fate data

[link to www.google.com]

Then I clicked on this one:

Interesting!!
[link to www.phidot.org]

In previous chapters, we’ve spent a considerable amount of time modeling situations where the
probability of encountering an individual is less than 1. However, there is at least one situation where
we do not have to model detection probability – known-fate data, so-called because we know the fate
of each marked animal with certainty. In other words, encounter probability is 1.0 (which must be
true if we know the fate of a marked individual with certainty). This situation typically arises when
individuals are radio-marked, although certain kinds of plant data can also be analyzed with the
known fate data type. In such cases, known-fate data are important because they provide a theory for
estimation of survival probability and other parameters (such as emigration). The focus of known fate
models is the estimation of survival probability S, the probability of surviving an interval between
sampling occasions. These are models where it can be assumed that the sampling probabilities are
1. That is, the status (dead or alive) of all tagged animals is known at each sampling occasion. For
this reason, precision is typically quite high, as precise as the binomial distribution allows, even in
cases where sample size is often fairly small. The only disadvantages might be the cost of radios and
possible effects of the radio on the animal or its behavior. The model is a product of simple binomial
likelihoods. Data on egg mortality in nests and studies of sessile organisms, such as mollusks, have
also been modeled as known fate data.
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what is the ratio of people who claim to be remote viewers/clairvoyant etc...who have, or have not done hallucinogens?

my guess would be greater than 60%.
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Neither my husband nor I have ever used any kind of recreational or controlled substance for anything.

We have the occasional drink, and for hubby that's even more occasional than it is for me.
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I've never been able to see the future, but have been able to pick up on hidden truths via news, personal conclusions, etc... that conclude in a particular outcome. But as of lately, it is more unsure-the outcome possibly isn't certain. Either something larger than I have been trying to comprehend(I have a vivid imagination), or maybe less chaos? idk.
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...speaking in more of a general term, not a specific instance. I think I'm wired backwards. When I'm tense about something happening, nothing happens. It seems something does when I have good vibes running.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12617125


Me too.

If I am tense, its for naught. If I have a sick feeling though -- then something is definitely going to happen that day. Though to be fair -- those times have only occurred when it was something of a personal nature.
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Interesting OP. Sometimes just before I fall asleep, I see things that are totally unknown to be. I may be remote viewing, 'cause it sounds kind of like what your husband is doing.
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Tand, you have to be cautious with guidance without structure. Analytical overlay(imagination) skews the results.

There is tons of info. about it ..for what i read is better to have structure before and while in the experience so it doesnt happen randomly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1468840


Usually I just ask him to close his eyes and tell me what he sees. Then if something strikes me, I ask him questions.

The last two times, I tried directing him more. I gave him a date and he said he didn't know how to get to that date, so I told him to look at a calendar. I chose April 19th.

He looked at a calendar and got April 19th, 1979. And he was in his room as a child and described it to me.

Then I asked him where I was and he said he instantly zoomed to a scene with a young girl (around 6 years old, right age for me) in a kitchen, wearing a yellow dress (with the right hair style) and helping someone with a cake.

I don't remember that, but there were definitely pieces of information he couldn't have known ... so I asked my mom about it and she's going to look through some old photos to see if she can figure out where we were on that day or during that time.

That was when we decided maybe we were really onto something rather than just 'daydreaming'.
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Thanks. Until recently, we were only just doing this for fun, a way to unwind. I liked 'going' to where his imagination took us. It wasn't until recently that I began to wonder if it was something more than that -- and then when I asked about April 19th, even he began to wonder.

Of the two of us, I am the spiritualist and he is the pragmatist.
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Interesting OP. Sometimes just before I fall asleep, I see things that are totally unknown to be. I may be remote viewing, 'cause it sounds kind of like what your husband is doing.
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Interesting! What kinds of things do you see?
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When I was about 18 years younger I was in my bathroom at home alone, I was sitting there and viewed into the future.

If I'm right about what is coming, keep practicing, because billions world wide are fixing to die, and life as normal isn't what I saw.

At first I was terrified with what I saw, so terrified that I dropped to my knees weeping and begging the lord not to let so many people die. It was a crushing sadness. It was as if I felt all those souls, I felt their pain, their suffering, and the end of all their dreams here on earth.

Like a wall of death, I know it's coming.

I hope your practicing this as nothing more than a hobby, I also hope that you are right with God, and in tune with who you are supposed to be.

You have to ask yourself are you truly viewing or allowing yourself to see, or believe only what you can handle psychologically.
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I've never been able to see the future, but have been able to pick up on hidden truths via news, personal conclusions, etc... that conclude in a particular outcome. But as of lately, it is more unsure-the outcome possibly isn't certain. Either something larger than I have been trying to comprehend(I have a vivid imagination), or maybe less chaos? idk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12617125


...speaking in more of a general term, not a specific instance. I think I'm wired backwards. When I'm tense about something happening, nothing happens. It seems something does when I have good vibes running.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12617125


Me too.

If I am tense, its for naught. If I have a sick feeling though -- then something is definitely going to happen that day. Though to be fair -- those times have only occurred when it was something of a personal nature.
 Quoting: tandym


Several times, me and my wife get caught up in a vortex of shit that seems to come out of nowhere. The last 3-4 times, usually around springtime, we can actually see it coming on, and have noticed not only the same players, but we can bank on the fact we will come out of it much, much cleaner and more enlightened on the backside. revelations of/in ones' life.
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I forgot to add regarding the Mississippi River:

That he saw a bundle of steel cables that had either been cut or snapped and made him wonder if there had been some sort of bridge there at one point...
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Interesting OP. Sometimes just before I fall asleep, I see things that are totally unknown to be. I may be remote viewing, 'cause it sounds kind of like what your husband is doing.
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Care to elaborate?

The mind and body cleared of most outside influence(thoughts, emotions, etc) is the prime state for extra-sensory experiences.
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Incidentally, I told him to RV March 28th, the Mississppi River and he saw:

Muddy Brown Water (the entire river). As he looked up the river and around the area, he saw:

a white hand and a blue flowered dress in the water -- the body was wearing a life vest of some sort, but it did not succeed in keeping the person afloat in the right way -- as if it were snagged by something, etc.

A stroller (pram) that was jammed in some debris

He saw lots of trees lining the water -- with very dark, papery bark, and some sort of moss hanging from the branches. (Spanish moss, maybe?)

He also saw, when he looked east, a 6-sided die, with the '2' showing.

***I forgot to add regarding the Mississippi River:

That he saw a bundle of steel cables that had either been cut or snapped and made him wonder if there had been some sort of bridge there at one point...
 Quoting: tandym




I had a dream last night about a mud slide
the location was Tennessee



Thread: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology (Page 365)

I had three different dreams all three were about water.
one was a mud slide my friend was in the dream he survived.

the other two were two other locations massive tsunami. in one of the dreams I know for sure felt like Japan and the giant waves came from both sides in the dream.
I was in this place like a sea aquarium there was someone there watching over the aquarium but didn't care what I was doing .... I jumped in the water naked ha!

as I was swimming around I noticed the water started to move funny back and fourth and got bigger and bigger till so big it picked me up carried me away till yet I met another big wave just as high and BAM slapped right between like a sandwich!

the other dream was at a beach and I was with a child. and we were trying to out run it as we saw it coming it took her away I couldn't deal living with out her so I jumped in let the wave taking me too said im coming honey.

that one fucked me up good woke up crying

im pretty sure I had this nightmare because of the last thing I saw last night before bed saw in the mood thread someone posted a video the image was a giant wave didn't watch the video.. I guess the image stuck with me.
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It's mind opening when you can realistically see the patterns of cycles unfold in front of you, AND be able to recognize it as such.
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maybe glp should have its own rv club?
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When I was about 18 years younger I was in my bathroom at home alone, I was sitting there and viewed into the future.

If I'm right about what is coming, keep practicing, because billions world wide are fixing to die, and life as normal isn't what I saw.

At first I was terrified with what I saw, so terrified that I dropped to my knees weeping and begging the lord not to let so many people die. It was a crushing sadness. It was as if I felt all those souls, I felt their pain, their suffering, and the end of all their dreams here on earth.

Like a wall of death, I know it's coming.

I hope your practicing this as nothing more than a hobby, I also hope that you are right with God, and in tune with who you are supposed to be.

You have to ask yourself are you truly viewing or allowing yourself to see, or believe only what you can handle psychologically.
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I am right with God. My husband is workingon it - hopefully I can gently lead him there. He's got some bitterness he needs to let go of / resolve. But then, a lot of people do.

Can you tell a little more of what you saw? The type of calamity at least?

I get snippets -- pieces here and there, but not a big picture view.
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I've never been able to see the future, but have been able to pick up on hidden truths via news, personal conclusions, etc... that conclude in a particular outcome. But as of lately, it is more unsure-the outcome possibly isn't certain. Either something larger than I have been trying to comprehend(I have a vivid imagination), or maybe less chaos? idk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12617125


...speaking in more of a general term, not a specific instance. I think I'm wired backwards. When I'm tense about something happening, nothing happens. It seems something does when I have good vibes running.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12617125


Me too.

If I am tense, its for naught. If I have a sick feeling though -- then something is definitely going to happen that day. Though to be fair -- those times have only occurred when it was something of a personal nature.
 Quoting: tandym


Several times, me and my wife get caught up in a vortex of shit that seems to come out of nowhere. The last 3-4 times, usually around springtime, we can actually see it coming on, and have noticed not only the same players, but we can bank on the fact we will come out of it much, much cleaner and more enlightened on the backside. revelations of/in ones' life.
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Can you describe the vortex a little more? Is it strictly mental? Is it also a physical feeling impression? Which players do you mean?
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Thanks. Until recently, we were only just doing this for fun, a way to unwind. I liked 'going' to where his imagination took us. It wasn't until recently that I began to wonder if it was something more than that -- and then when I asked about April 19th, even he began to wonder.

Of the two of us, I am the spiritualist and he is the pragmatist.
 Quoting: tandym


What a way to unwind chuckle
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what is the ratio of people who claim to be remote viewers/clairvoyant etc...who have, or have not done hallucinogens?

my guess would be greater than 60%.
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Which of the two are you attributing the 60% to?

No one here has claimed to be anything. So far they are sharing their experiences.
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Hello! Ive had some success through the years with OBE's. It is true, I believe that without a plan, the course of the experience can be kinda all over the place. Ive had somewhere around a dozen or more that I was TRULY conscious for during its entirety, as a few others sort of end up melding into a dream type thingy. Early on (after reading Monroe's book) I would be so shocked that it was happening I would simply "wake" up before it went anywhere.

One particularly interesting experience (to me) was at the request of my father-in-law I asked to see God. Neither of us have a dogmatic view, so I was open to anything. I should state first that my father had just recently passed away, and before my God request I asked to see him. I was "given" the knowledge that it was too soon. I remembered my father in law's request and sort of floated up my street and was taken under a tree. at this point I was not only lucid, but hyper aware. I could see a 360 degree view of my environment, the colors were brighter and everything was clearer and vibrant. A drop of dew fell on my leg and in that moment I saw and felt EVERYTHING..the whole spectrum of the human experience. it was so intense that I of course slammed back into my body, not feeling at all as though I were asleep..
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Interesting OP. Sometimes just before I fall asleep, I see things that are totally unknown to be. I may be remote viewing, 'cause it sounds kind of like what your husband is doing.
 Quoting: INK1


Care to elaborate?

The mind and body cleared of most outside influence(thoughts, emotions, etc) is the prime state for extra-sensory experiences.
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Since I was a child, I noticed that sometimes different dreams were in the same place. It wasn't until my mid-to late 20's that I realized I was building an entire city and it all interconnected. I have built training rooms for flying and other talents, sunny skies, roads and fields and people, and have given myself things- safe houses, space maps to other planets, phone booths that can transport me anywhere. Still today, when I dream, it is not familiar, but home. It IS a reality past what this material world is. I try to train my brain to imagine past the six senses we have, and allow myself more than than I am aware of currently. I learn a lot of lessons there. I learn new patience, new understanding. It's like I'm tapping into a larger consciousness. I also feel-scratch that-I know I am "out there" as well as my physical body being "here". There is another part of me out there that I can't feel attached to due to the limitations of the body.





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