Mohamed Merah - Toulouse Gunman was a french informant | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 13450952 Egypt 03/31/2012 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Le Monde also quoted Squarcini as saying that Merah asked for a local DCRI agent by name while he was holed-up in the apartment surrounded by police. So how does he know the name of DCRI agents unless he had some connection with them? The more you do research on this, the more interesting it gets. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 13450952 Egypt 03/31/2012 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The video footage Shortly after Mohamed Merah killed four people at a Toulouse Jewish school in his third and final attack, French prosecutors disclosed that the gunman had filmed his attacks, which occurred on March 11, 15 and 19 in the southwestern French cities of Toulouse and Montauban. Prosecutors said the 23-year-old gunman wore a miniature camera strapped to his chest. Following Merah’s death after a 32-hour police siege, the Al Jazeera TV station confirmed that it had received video footage along with a letter in poorly written French. The images were contained on a USB key, sent with the letter, to the Paris bureau of the Qatar-based TV network. The letter claimed the killings were carried out in the name of al Qaeda, according to Zied Tarrouche, the station's Paris bureau chief. Al Jazeera executives however decided not to broadcast the explicit footage - which they say shows an edited version of the attacks in chronological order - following calls from French President Nicolas Sarkozy as well as the families of some of the victims and the gunman. According to the French weekly magazine, Le Point, there was another USB key in Merah’s pocket at the time of his death. The contents of the second USB key have not been disclosed. [link to www.france24.com] Really, so who sent the footage to AJazeera...normally they get these "informant footages" which they "can not independently verify the source and authenticity" and air them as propaganda - was this too hot for them or is their little scheme just falling apart? What was on the second USB stick? Something incriminating to some of the people that were on the scene making sure he doesn't survive this stand-off? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 13450952 Egypt 03/31/2012 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The ‘third man’ theory Questions about a possible “third man” complicit in the attacks intensified after French officials said Merah was not the person who mailed the USB key to Al Jazeera. The gunman’s elder brother, Abdelkader Merah, was detained on Wednesday, March 21, as police laid siege to his younger brother’s Toulouse apartment. The brother has since been in police custody and is under investigation for complicity to murder. That opened the question of a “third man” who had mailed the USB key containing footage of the attacks to Al Jazeera. Merah used his brother Abdelkader’s email to buy a scooter from his first murder victim. Police sources say that at a closed hearing in Toulouse during the siege, Abdelkader said he was "proud" of Mohamed’s killings and he admitted helping his younger brother steal a Yamaha T-Max scooter used in all seven murders. But he denied any knowledge of his brother's murderous plans. [link to www.france24.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11425781 France 03/31/2012 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Merah was a salafist. The more you arabs get spiritually involved into your book, the more there is a risk that you become killers. You arabs and your kind are like the pedophiles rooming a society. You are dangerous for us people, families, working people who just want to do a living and see their kids grow up. Why don't you all go back where you came from, if you do not accept our way of living. Europe, and every state in it, is not up for an islamic change. The more you try, the faster you are going to get into trouble. You should read europes history, others tried, they are not here anymore, very sad story that is. :Adam1: |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 13450952 Egypt 03/31/2012 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can't keep a lid on the truth coming out anymore! AN INFORMANT? Questions have also arisen over whether Merah could have been an informant for the French intelligence services. The allegations were sparked when Bernard Squarcini, head of France’s DCRI domestic intelligence agency, told Le Monde that during the 32-hour police siege, Merah had asked to speak to a Toulouse-based DCRI officer who had interrogated him when he returned from a trip to Pakistan in November 2011. According to Squarcini, Merah told the agent – a woman of North African origin – that he had meant to use the pretext of having a few tip-offs for her to fix a meeting. “But actually, I was going to bump you off,” Squarcini quoted Merah as saying. The theory was amplified by comments by Yves Bonnet, former head of the DST (Directioon de la Surveillance du Territoire), a French counter-espionage service that was merged to form the DCRI. In an interview with the Toulouse paper La Dépeche du Midi, Bonnet said it was striking that Merah had a handler: “that is not an innocent thing”. [link to www.france24.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 13450952 Egypt 03/31/2012 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The DCRI chief told Le Monde newspaper that Merah shocked the agent by saying: "Actually, I was meaning [before the siege] to call to say I had some tip-offs for you. But, actually, I was going to bump you off." In French, he used the word fumer, which means "to smoke" but in slang translates to "murder" or "waste". He also used tu, the familiar word for "you". In other words, Merah appeared to have a friendly relationship with the agent and intended to lure her into an ambush by pretending to have information about radical Islamist activities in Toulouse. French newspapers have pointed out that even low-level "informant" status for Merah could explain why he passed under the radar of the police and security services. In an interview this week with the Toulouse paper La Dépêche du Midi, a former security chief, Yves Bonnet, said it was "striking" that Merah seemed to have a DCRI "handler". "Having a handler, that is not an innocent thing," he said. "I don't know how far his relationship, or collaboration, with the service went but it is a question worth raising." Mr Bonnet was head of the counter-espionage service, the Direction de la Surveillance du Territoire (DST), from 1982 to 1985. This was one of the two agencies merged by President Nicolas Sarkozy in 2008 to form the DCRI. The merger generated much jealousy and anger. Government sources suggest that this could to explain Mr Bonnet's "unhelpful" remarks. This week, an Italian paper, Il Foglio, citing "intelligence sources", said Merah travelled to Israel in September 2010 using cover provided by the French external espionage service, the Direction Générale de la Sécurité Extérieure(DGSE). A spokesman for the DGSE, the French equivalent of MI6, dismissed the report as "grotesque". Mr Squarcini has said Merah was never an informer for any French security agency. [link to www.independent.co.uk] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11425781 France 03/31/2012 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The truth is that a "Merah" was grown up in a divorced family. His father is in Algerie. Where he lives, the town is known for being salafist, everybody knows this. Nobody normal in Algerie goes there. There are only terrorists there. His family, all of them, are member of a salafist offspring here in france, that are people who have ideas that are not conform to what we here in France think is acceptable. Merah had no work, he financed himself by robbing people, he was a thief. He went to Pakistan, had some more salafist input and came back. Here where I live, IN FRANCE, lots of arabs are decent people. But as soon as there is religion involved, people are getting nuts. This is my country, and not yours. Here we do not accept this kind of thinking. Not at all. Go back all you arabs, who are in favour of merahs, in your respective villages. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 13450952 Egypt 03/31/2012 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How else can a kid like him with not much money afford to travel to Iran, Syria, Pakistan and Afghanistan...and you can't just go to Pakistan Region Wasiristan and knock on a "terrorist training camp" door. You HAVE to have assistance from intelligence agents. Also going to Israel with all those stamps in his passports? He would NEVER pass the interrogation or if truly a terrorist would have already been on the watchlist by them and either deported or arrested. I think there's enough proof now to say, things are not like they seem. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11425781 France 03/31/2012 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And yes, what is known is that this arab Mehra had no work, never did anything for this country, stealed, robbed people and had no other income. With the money he "earned" he went to Israel, Pakistan and some other countries. And YES, I GET UP MONDAY AND WORK. Apparantly others do not have to, and are getting cheered at after KILLING CHILDREN by putting the GUN AT THEIR HEAD. I, personnally, I look at your kind, and I think you are not human. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11425781 France 03/31/2012 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And yes, what is known is that this arab Mehra had no work, never did anything for this country, stealed, robbed people and had no other income. Quoting: ^àTOn^ With the money he "earned" he went to Israel, Pakistan and some other countries. And YES, I GET UP MONDAY AND WORK. Apparantly others do not have to, and are getting cheered at after KILLING CHILDREN by putting the GUN AT THEIR HEAD. I, personnally, I look at your kind, and I think you are not human. But never forget, Mehra is an arab idol, a believer in the koran, somebody who loves allah, somebody, who by killing a little 6 year old girl pleases his allah. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12990587 Canada 03/31/2012 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And yes, what is known is that this arab Mehra had no work, never did anything for this country, stealed, robbed people and had no other income. Quoting: ^àTOn^ With the money he "earned" he went to Israel, Pakistan and some other countries. And YES, I GET UP MONDAY AND WORK. Apparantly others do not have to, and are getting cheered at after KILLING CHILDREN by putting the GUN AT THEIR HEAD. I, personnally, I look at your kind, and I think you are not human. Le Scum. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 13450952 Egypt 03/31/2012 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In an interview this week with the Toulouse paper La Dépêche du Midi, a former security chief, Yves Bonnet, said it was "striking" that Merah seemed to have a DCRI "handler". "Having a handler, that is not an innocent thing," he said. "I don't know how far his relationship, or collaboration, with the service went but it is a question worth raising." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13450952 This week, an Italian paper, Il Foglio, citing "intelligence sources", said Merah travelled to Israel in September 2010 using cover provided by the French external espionage service, the Direction Générale de la Sécurité Extérieure(DGSE). [link to www.independent.co.uk] He had a Handler...he must have been an informant. So what went wrong there? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 13450952 Egypt 03/31/2012 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The speculation comes as Yves Bonnet, a former intelligence chief, says Merah might have passed information onto the DCRI, a French domestic intelligence agency. “He was known to the DCRI, not especially because he was an Islamist, but because he had a correspondent in domestic intelligence,” Bonnet told La Dépêce newspaper on Monday. “When you have a correspondent, it’s not completely innocent,” he remarked. On Tuesday the assumption, worthy of a huge scandal, was rebuffed by DCRI head Bernard Squarcini. [link to rt.com] Bonnet is known to be a rival of Squarcini, who has since denied the allegations that Merah was a DCRI informant. [link to www.france24.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11425781 France 03/31/2012 07:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is: 1) You think that everyone, who is not in your belief, IS WRONG. Conclusion --> that makes you a fascist movement, and what that means, everybody knows 2) the more you get into your belief system, the more likely it is that you become a killer, a hater. Conclusion --> either your belief system is wrong, your prophet MO, the pedophile pig, was wrong, or you you do not interpret your "book" in a decent manner. In either case, today it is acceptable in the arab world to kill in the name of allah / god (there is only one god). |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 13450952 Egypt 03/31/2012 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reports indicate Toulouse gunman was French intelligence asset By Alex Lantier 28 March 2012 Press reports and comments by top intelligence officials suggest that Mohamed Merah, the alleged gunman who killed seven people including three Jewish schoolchildren in a nine-day shooting spree in Toulouse, was a French intelligence asset. These revelations raise questions about French intelligence’s failure to stop Merah, and whether this failure was dictated by political considerations. The investigation of Merah was led by the Central Directorate of Internal Intelligence (DCRI), run by Bernard Squarcini—a close associate of incumbent President Nicolas Sarkozy. Sarkozy, previously running far behind Socialist Party (PS) candidate François Hollande in next month’s presidential elections, has benefited from massive media coverage after the attacks and now is catching up to Hollande in polls. In a March 23 Le Monde interview, Squarcini had confirmed that Merah had traveled extensively in the Middle East, even though his legal earnings were roughly at the minimum wage: “He spent time with his brother in Cairo after having traveled in the Near East: Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, and even Israel. … Then he went to Afghanistan via Tajikistan. He took unusual routes and did not appear on our radars, nor those of French, American, or local foreign intelligence services.” [link to www.wsws.org] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 13450952 Egypt 03/31/2012 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Squarcini apparently aimed to bolster the official explanation for Merah’s ability to escape police: he was an undetectable “self-radicalized lone wolf.” This story is being shattered by revelations that French intelligence agencies were apparently in close contact with Merah, trying to develop him as an informant inside Islamist networks. the General Directorate of External Security obtained entry into Israel for him in 2010, presenting him as an informant, passing through a border post with Jordan. … His entry into Israel, covered by the French, sought to prove to the jihadist network that he could cross borders with a European passport.” [link to www.wsws.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11425781 France 03/31/2012 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Squarcini apparently aimed to bolster the official explanation for Merah’s ability to escape police: he was an undetectable “self-radicalized lone wolf.” This story is being shattered by revelations that French intelligence agencies were apparently in close contact with Merah, trying to develop him as an informant inside Islamist networks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13450952 the General Directorate of External Security obtained entry into Israel for him in 2010, presenting him as an informant, passing through a border post with Jordan. … His entry into Israel, covered by the French, sought to prove to the jihadist network that he could cross borders with a European passport.” [link to www.wsws.org] The monster put a gun at the head of 3 little girls + three young soldiers. I am not a sentimental guy, normaly. But that was one more time an arab show, of how great their koran really is. Great show. You rock you arabs, only good news, all the times, all we need. We really like you ! :Yes: |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 13450952 Egypt 03/31/2012 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Squarcini apparently aimed to bolster the official explanation for Merah’s ability to escape police: he was an undetectable “self-radicalized lone wolf.” This story is being shattered by revelations that French intelligence agencies were apparently in close contact with Merah, trying to develop him as an informant inside Islamist networks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13450952 the General Directorate of External Security obtained entry into Israel for him in 2010, presenting him as an informant, passing through a border post with Jordan. … His entry into Israel, covered by the French, sought to prove to the jihadist network that he could cross borders with a European passport.” [link to www.wsws.org] The monster put a gun at the head of 3 little girls + three young soldiers. I am not a sentimental guy, normaly. But that was one more time an arab show, of how great their koran really is. Great show. You rock you arabs, only good news, all the times, all we need. We really like you ! :Yes: Your comments are irrelevant and insignificant - can you contribute to the content, otherwise start your own hate thread. Either you're a shill or a sheep not wanting to look further into this incident. I don't condone in any way the killings, this is not the subject of this matter. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11425781 France 03/31/2012 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The monster put a gun at the head of 3 little girls + three young soldiers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward I am not a sentimental guy, normaly. But that was one more time an arab show, of how great their koran really is. Great show. You rock you arabs, only good news, all the times, all we need. We really like you ! :Yes: Your comments are irrelevant and insignificant - can you contribute to the content, otherwise start your own hate thread. Either you're a shill or a sheep not wanting to look further into this incident. I don't condone in any way the killings, this is not the subject of this matter. My comments are not irrelavant. I won't contribute to your thread. You are a terrorist understander. Your thread is about how to share what has been done. You try do say that somehow french officials were implicated and other, too. You as an arab, you are going to end up that its the mossad. You didn't read, did't understand, or didn't accept my responses to your thread. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 13450952 Egypt 03/31/2012 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The monster put a gun at the head of 3 little girls + three young soldiers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward I am not a sentimental guy, normaly. But that was one more time an arab show, of how great their koran really is. Great show. You rock you arabs, only good news, all the times, all we need. We really like you ! :Yes: Your comments are irrelevant and insignificant - can you contribute to the content, otherwise start your own hate thread. Either you're a shill or a sheep not wanting to look further into this incident. I don't condone in any way the killings, this is not the subject of this matter. My comments are not irrelavant. I won't contribute to your thread. You are a terrorist understander. Your thread is about how to share what has been done. You try do say that somehow french officials were implicated and other, too. You as an arab, you are going to end up that its the mossad. You didn't read, did't understand, or didn't accept my responses to your thread. I said none of the above - I just reported what's all over France24 and other news stations. You can't argue the obvious facts coming out that something is wrong with this case - again, shill or sheep. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11391214 United States 03/31/2012 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The monster put a gun at the head of 3 little girls + three young soldiers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward I am not a sentimental guy, normaly. But that was one more time an arab show, of how great their koran really is. Great show. You rock you arabs, only good news, all the times, all we need. We really like you ! :Yes: Your comments are irrelevant and insignificant - can you contribute to the content, otherwise start your own hate thread. Either you're a shill or a sheep not wanting to look further into this incident. I don't condone in any way the killings, this is not the subject of this matter. My comments are not irrelavant. I won't contribute to your thread. You are a terrorist understander. Your thread is about how to share what has been done. You try do say that somehow french officials were implicated and other, too. You as an arab, you are going to end up that its the mossad. You didn't read, did't understand, or didn't accept my responses to your thread. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1258829 United States 03/31/2012 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Truth hurts for some of you haters. The Reality is a little bit different and some of you will have a really bad wake up call soon as to who the bad guys really are. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13450952 Can't keep a lid on the truth coming out anymore! AN INFORMANT? Questions have also arisen over whether Merah could have been an informant for the French intelligence services. The allegations were sparked when Bernard Squarcini, head of France’s DCRI domestic intelligence agency, told Le Monde that during the 32-hour police siege, Merah had asked to speak to a Toulouse-based DCRI officer who had interrogated him when he returned from a trip to Pakistan in November 2011. According to Squarcini, Merah told the agent – a woman of North African origin – that he had meant to use the pretext of having a few tip-offs for her to fix a meeting. “But actually, I was going to bump you off,” Squarcini quoted Merah as saying. The theory was amplified by comments by Yves Bonnet, former head of the DST (Directioon de la Surveillance du Territoire), a French counter-espionage service that was merged to form the DCRI. In an interview with the Toulouse paper La Dépeche du Midi, Bonnet said it was striking that Merah had a handler: “that is not an innocent thing”. [link to www.france24.com] He also spent time in Israel. This is another massive psyop. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11425781 France 03/31/2012 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You arabs kill people and YOU CALL ME HATER ?????? Can you please explain me, at what level of killings I should get involved: 1) spain bombings: in the name of allah bombing trains 2) loulouse bombings: in the name of allah killing 6 year old girls by putting the gun on their head 3)London bombing: shooting people randomliy 4) foiled and prevented bombings: all over europe How much hatred do you have, YOUR KIND, to kill 6 year old girls like that. YOU ARE NOT HUMAN. You and your kind are not human anymore. You and your koran, prophet and all your shit you are not human. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11391214 United States 03/31/2012 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You arabs kill people and YOU CALL ME HATER ?????? Quoting: Anonymous Coward Can you please explain me, at what level of killings I should get involved: 1) spain bombings: in the name of allah bombing trains 2) loulouse bombings: in the name of allah killing 6 year old girls by putting the gun on their head 3)London bombing: shooting people randomliy 4) foiled and prevented bombings: all over europe How much hatred do you have, YOUR KIND, to kill 6 year old girls like that. YOU ARE NOT HUMAN. You and your kind are not human anymore. You and your koran, prophet and all your shit you are not human. they follow mohammed, a pedophile socialpathic murderer. it's normal to them. they are savages |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11425781 France 03/31/2012 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The monster put a gun at the head of 3 little girls + three young soldiers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward I am not a sentimental guy, normaly. But that was one more time an arab show, of how great their koran really is. Great show. You rock you arabs, only good news, all the times, all we need. We really like you ! :Yes: Your comments are irrelevant and insignificant - can you contribute to the content, otherwise start your own hate thread. Either you're a shill or a sheep not wanting to look further into this incident. I don't condone in any way the killings, this is not the subject of this matter. My comments are not irrelavant. I won't contribute to your thread. You are a terrorist understander. Your thread is about how to share what has been done. You try do say that somehow french officials were implicated and other, too. You as an arab, you are going to end up that its the mossad. You didn't read, did't understand, or didn't accept my responses to your thread. I said none of the above - I just reported what's all over France24 and other news stations. You can't argue the obvious facts coming out that something is wrong with this case - again, shill or sheep. You know, there were little kids killed, when they were in their school. I do not know where you come from, but here, this a crime that shakes our society. Everybody is talking about it. And I personnally, and I say personnally, I do not like it if my compatriats are killed by arabs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11425781 France 03/31/2012 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know, there were little kids killed, when they were in their school. Quoting: ^àTOn^ I do not know where you come from, but here, this a crime that shakes our society. Everybody is talking about it. And I personnally, and I say personnally, I do not like it if my compatriats are killed by arabs. Your religion, all what you stand for, is not only shaking, it is coming down as we see it. You arabs, come here, all the way, to kill our kind. And then you find some kind of explication for your deeds. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11425781 France 03/31/2012 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not there anymore, my egyptian friend ? Couldn't stand my answers and now you blowing up yourself in a crowd ? Didn't like the truth of your MO and your bullshit of believe system ? I am going to bed now. Contrary to YOU, some people contribute to society. |
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