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Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?

 
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
This is the only reasonable view to take, if one believes that God is infinite.
God cannot be infinite if you are not inside and part of God.
Infinite = EVERYTHING
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Yes. That's exactly right. Thank you.
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Therefore what?

Good and evil don't matter?

What?
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Ok, this goes into another area, but I will try to answer your post. We are only here in this physical reality to learn. We learn equally well from the good and evil experiences. The good experiences tell us that we are on the right path and the bad ones hopefully turn us back to the true path.

I hope that made sense.
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
What then? You can choose whatever you wish to create based on this information.
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
Man's freedom seems most often to be used to be so deliberately stupid.
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
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You would prefer that people make that wrong choice that puts them in flames forever. OBVIOUSLY, they don't believe this choice would really do that to them or else they wouldn't believe it because after all, who wants to bet set on fire forever? Uhh nobody.

Regardless, hell isn't biblical and neither is freewill... You have a lot of catching up to do if you get those things from the Bible.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah... I suck... of course... fine.

Can you answer the question yet? Are you afraid of the question or something?

Would you prefer that you were forced to believe in God?
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Who wouldn't? If being forced meant an eternity of bliss vs not being forced means an eternity of torture.

Your question is so obvious it didn't really deserve an answer. But apparently you weren't unaware of the answer... So, there it is.
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Then why don't you?
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Why don't I what?
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
Man's freedom seems most often to be used to be so deliberately stupid.
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Doubly so, when it relegates all responsibility outside of itself, in my opinion.
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
What then? You can choose whatever you wish to create based on this information.
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That is so vapid. That means anything and that means nothing.

If that's what does it for you...
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
God is infinite, therefore we are all a part of God. That's all I have said
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This is a true statement. It isn't any clearer than this.

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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
Man's freedom seems most often to be used to be so deliberately stupid.
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Doubly so, when it relegates all responsibility outside of itself, in my opinion.
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Actually, I think authority would have been a better choice of words in my above statement.
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
What then? You can choose whatever you wish to create based on this information.
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That is so vapid. That means anything and that means nothing.

If that's what does it for you...
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Just out of curiosity. Do you believe that God is infinite or finite?
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
What then? You can choose whatever you wish to create based on this information.
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Does that mean, TO YOU, that Jesus Christ is TRUE or FALSE?
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
What then? You can choose whatever you wish to create based on this information.
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That is so vapid. That means anything and that means nothing.

If that's what does it for you...
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Just out of curiosity. Do you believe that God is infinite or finite?
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Also, do you need someone else or Someone else, to tell you what is "right" and "wrong." These things almost seem like no-brainers.
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
Hitchens would often say that the idea of compulsory love is a little sketchy, and I tend to agree.

I think you're building an interesting case that the God we read about in the bible seems to think and act much more like an advanced version of us than a qualitatively different "supreme" being who is beyond having an ego, for example.

God gets butthurt and takes it out on those he claims to love at many points through the Old Testament. This is very familiar behavior for a human being.
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
What then? You can choose whatever you wish to create based on this information.
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Does that mean, TO YOU, that Jesus Christ is TRUE or FALSE?
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Jesus as put forth in the stories sounds like a great guy. He seemed to be saying, and I'm paraphrasing, "all this that I do, you can do this and more."
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
What then? You can choose whatever you wish to create based on this information.
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That is so vapid. That means anything and that means nothing.

If that's what does it for you...
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Just out of curiosity. Do you believe that God is infinite or finite?
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Are you kidding me? What do you think?

Do you think that I think the Almighty Creator of the Universe is limited?
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
Does The Almighty fit in some man's little finite box?
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
What then? You can choose whatever you wish to create based on this information.
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Does that mean, TO YOU, that Jesus Christ is TRUE or FALSE?
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Jesus as put forth in the stories sounds like a great guy. He seemed to be saying, and I'm paraphrasing, "all this that I do, you can do this and more."
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Is Jesus Christ God Incarnate or not?
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
What then? You can choose whatever you wish to create based on this information.
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Does that mean, TO YOU, that Jesus Christ is TRUE or FALSE?
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Jesus as put forth in the stories sounds like a great guy. He seemed to be saying, and I'm paraphrasing, "all this that I do, you can do this and more."
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You got it!
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
There may be a BIG difference between the god put forth in the major religions and GOD.
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Bingo.
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
What then? You can choose whatever you wish to create based on this information.
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That is so vapid. That means anything and that means nothing.

If that's what does it for you...
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Just out of curiosity. Do you believe that God is infinite or finite?
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Are you kidding me? What do you think?

Do you think that I think the Almighty Creator of the Universe is limited?
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I don't know. That's why I asked.

Infinity means = EVERYTHING

nothing can lie outside of infinity. If there is anything outside something which is infinite, then it's not infinite. It's finite

Therefore, we are also part of it.
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
What then? You can choose whatever you wish to create based on this information.
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Does that mean, TO YOU, that Jesus Christ is TRUE or FALSE?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4934354


Jesus as put forth in the stories sounds like a great guy. He seemed to be saying, and I'm paraphrasing, "all this that I do, you can do this and more."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13514333


Is Jesus Christ God Incarnate or not?
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Yes, since infinite must include everything.
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
Is Jesus Christ God Incarnate or not?
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Yes, since infinite must include everything.


As are we all...
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
If God is infinite, then,

I would have to liken the issue of worship to be the same as:

you asking the cells within your body to worship you

thereby denying those same cells the ability of realizing that there is something higher, which includes both of you, that is infinite

which is what the god of major religions may serve a function of doing, in our world. the limited very human concept, which denies the knowing of an infinite God, which by very definition includes ALL REALITY
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
Madness.

That you are among the created of creation does not mean that you are The Creator.

You are most certainly not God.
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
Is Jesus Christ God Incarnate or not?
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Yes, since infinite must include everything.
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As are we all...


What is my name almighty god 1123581321?
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
If God is infinite, then,

I would have to liken the issue of worship to be the same as:

you asking the cells within your body to worship you

thereby denying those same cells the ability of realizing that there is something higher, which includes both of you, that is infinite

which is what the god of major religions may serve a function of doing, in our world. the limited very human concept, which denies the knowing of an infinite God, which by very definition includes ALL REALITY
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that may not be the best analogy, but generally you can get the concept perhaps

(my analogy fails in that I wouldn't posit that I am inside of the little god of the bible and major religions)
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
What is my name almighty god 1123581321?
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
Madness.

That you are among the created of creation does not mean that you are The Creator.

You are most certainly not God.
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then God is not infinite?

explain how there can be something outside of infinity
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
You are antichrist.
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
You are antichrist.
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nope
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Re: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
What is sin, you gods?





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