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Michelange User ID: 13805073 Switzerland 04/04/2012 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Nibiru/2012/Mayan calendar/End of the World: celestial alignment of Hopi prophecy: What about the TRANSIT OF VENUS ON THE 5TH/6TH OF JUNE 2012? I see that I didn't meet your interest! There’s still one thing that I found amazing and that I wanted to share with you: just another strange mathematical coincidence, if this is one. To confirm my hypothesis that the fourth transit of Venus in a cycle was significant (marking the end of a precise period of 243 years) in a kind of cyclical and universal celestial clock, I thought it has to be a finite unit of the Great Year (the Precession of the Equinoxes). In that case, the Great Year would be a precise multiple of 243 (years). It seems that the current best scientific astronomical approximation is 25770 years [link to vejprty.com] and the nearest multiple of 243 happens to be very near: it is 25758. So I made afterward a Google search with the terms: “25758 [and] precession of the equinoxes”. And it seems that two independent sources thought that the exact number for the precession’s duration would be ACTUALLY 25758 years. An ancient singer, Gary Osborn, basing his theory on the pyramids of Gizah, mentions the scientific approximation of 25776 years and says that its own guess is 25758 years, but he doesn’t say precisely why. He told though that the slope of the Great Pyramid of Gizah is exactly 51°51’ and is a code. It happens to be exactly 2*25,758 = 51,516. But it could also mean 25753 to 25759. Then why does he guess precisely 25758 years? I couldn’t find it out, BUT HE DIDN’T MENTION VENUS NOR THE NUMBER 243 [link to garyosborn.moonfruit.com] The other source is an Indian one. It seems that Indian Vedic astrologers had determined in ancient times that the processional cycle’s exact duration was 25758 years. And it has been ever since then established as a fact and a basis for Vedic astrological calculations. The best astronomical approximation of Aristotle was 25920 years in the antiquity, presumably on about the same time that the Vedic astrologists and it is by far more distant of the current scientist astronomical approximation (25770 years). Was it a part of the revelation of the Veda (“dis-covery of the cosmic order”) to the legendary seven Rishis/Gurus by the Brahman (God)? The source of this calculation or information (?) about the exact duration of the procession of the equinoxes is seemingly a mystery for the Indians themselves. BUT HERE ALSO THERE’S NO MENTION OF VENUS’S TRANSIT OR OF THE NUMBER 243. [link to fr.wikipedia.org] / (in French) [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to www.astro-planetcode.com] But it remains that 25758 is a multiple of 243 and that could sustain the hypothesis that the fourth transit of Venus cycle has a connection with the mechanic of the Great Year (the processional cycle of the equinoxes). The Great Year of 25758 years would then correspond to 106*243 years (fourth transit of Venus cycles) or perhaps 2*53*243 years. This would be compatible with hypothesis of eight-shape trajectories of two suns (or a sun and a brown dwarf companion) in a binary system, one sun turning clockwise and the other counter-clockwise. A complete turn of the eight-circuit by each sun means two crossings in the center of the eight. [link to www.disclose.tv] That could mean that the mid Great Year of 12879 years would also constitute a cycle in itself, maybe the interval between two great floods and extreme climatic changes, and/or the mid orbital period and crossing of the hypothetical Sun’s dark companion (Nibiru/Nemesis/Woodworm etc.(?)) in a binary Solar system. The central rotation of the Sun and of its dark companion around their common barycenter would display a serpent-like or dragon-like trajectory in the sky from Earth perspective and would account for the celestial winged or feathered dragons and snakes of the Mayan and Chinese traditions. So the last flooding would have occurred in 12879-2012+1 (no zero year) = 10868 B.C. It would approximately correspond with the date of the Atlantis flooding reported by Plato. Plato (in 400 B.C.) quoted Solon who spoke with an Egyptian priest, which said him that the flood occurred more than 9000 years ago. It corresponds more or less with the estimation of the last magnetic inversion (10400 years B.C.), according some sources (?) [link to www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk] with the great climatic change by the end of the last glaciations (around 10500 B.C.), and with the estimated construction of the Sphinx of Gizah, according John Antony West [link to www.catchpenny.org] This would match with the end of the civilization of the mysterious city of Tiahuanaco (Tiwanaku) [link to www.crystalinks.com] near the Titicaca Lake, which was said by the Incas to have been built by giants in one night more than 10000 years ago. There are monuments in Tiahuanaco to observe summer and winter solstices, which are coherent with the inclination of the Earth’s axis as it was on this epoch. And the construction of the site of Puma Puku in Bolivia, which arises the same questions than for Tiahuanaco, [link to www.youtube.com] is told to be 17000 years old. In Europe, it was then Stone Age (a name derived of little carved stones used as primitive tools, not of the Megalithic stones). The biggest stone there in Puma Puku weighs 800 tones and the carving of the stones of granite and diorite is so perfect that we would be unable to do the same with today’s machines. The temple of Zeus at Baalbek (Lebanon) could also fit with that category of monuments: the corner blocks weighed over 100 tons and have been raised to a height of ca. 19m above the ground [link to www.fotothing.com] “The massive stones of the Grand Terrace at Baalbek are usually referred to as 'cyclopean' simply due to their immense size and a legend attached to the site that records that the first temple at Baalbek was the construction of Cain before the Deluge and rebuilt by a race of giants under the command of Nimrod after the flood; the work of the Cyclopes” [link to thehobgoblin.blogspot.com] Numerous traces of a very ancient past seem then to accredit the fact that technically very developed unknown civilizations has existed before our civilization and were destroyed by a cataclysmic flooding event more than 10.000 years ago. Are we the following ones on the list? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15571641 Spain 05/09/2012 06:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Nibiru/2012/Mayan calendar/End of the World: celestial alignment of Hopi prophecy: What about the TRANSIT OF VENUS ON THE 5TH/6TH OF JUNE 2012? You are 100% correct. The 6th of june is the beggining of the end. Do you know that some researchers say that the end of the mayan calendar is not December 2012 but june 2012? Believe me, Venus is the key to all that is about to happen. Read more here about the importance of Venus in ancient times and how it was a bad omen for many ancient cultures: Copyright Ev cochrane For whatever reason, the planet Venus was worshipped by ancient peoples the world over from a very early time. Thus it is that Venus figures prominently in the earliest myths, art, and religious literature of most ancient cultures. A survey of this material reveals hundreds of anomalies in the ancient descriptions of Venus' appearance and behavior. It is described as a bearded star, a dragon-like star, a star with a tail, a witch-star, etc.(1) Ancient myths relate that Venus once fell from the sky as a comet-like object or as a witch-like being.(2) Very early representations of the planet (or the planet-goddess Inanna) depict it as a comet or in otherwise impossible positions vis a vis other astronomical bodies.(3) How are we to understand this ancient testimony? ... continues at: [link to www.bearfabrique.org] This past days I have written some of my ideas in other threads, I will copy the information here: Venus= Nibiru= Jesus = quetzalcoatl etc, etc, etc and many other names it has been diven throughout history. Nibiru was called the planet of the crossing because it was seen crossing the face of the sun before the shit hit the fan. We call it the transit of Venus and we will see it crossing the face of the sun on the 6th of june (6,6) and the crossing will last for 6 hours (666) Remember this date because from that date on things will only get worse and worse. Venus will be our perdition, it will change the world as we know it and we will see many disasters caused by it (wars ,famines,illnes ...) but to those who endure till the end , they would be able to see why Jesus =venus=morning star would also be our salvation. Did you know that Venus is covered in very thick clouds? Well, you would be able to see it when venus is very near earth (it will change its orbit from the 6th of june).... "At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory" or "Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him ... By the way it will be this so near approach to venus what would cause the poles to flip etc , but that would be in 2015 , until then its slow aproaching to earth plus how it will be ignited by the sun on 6th of june will be causing all the chaos we are going to be experiencing.i think this ignition by the sun or by o solar flare will give venus its aperance of a winged sun, or a sun with horns, or a beast with horns, or serpent etc or any other name that it has been called during different civilisations or religions. Venus , plus the two witnesses (the sun and the moon) will be what change our world. When we are able to see Venus (Jesus, Nibiru ...) very near us is when the earth will fully enter into its influence/orbit or whatever (the groom =venus will come for his bride (the earth) because of Venus atmosphere we will float towards it and maybe we will go on to live into Venus???? I am not so sure about this part but it could be the meaning of a new earth and a new heaven. Also think about the fact that one day in venus equals 243 earth days , so that would solve the mistery of living much longer after we get to see Jesus=Nibiru=venus Also the new earth and new heaven could be a metaphor that indicates that the influence that venus would have on our brains (magnetics or whatever)which would erease all our memories, egos etc and will leave in the surviving people a blank mind or egoless mind or enlightened mind, which would make us see everything as new and perfect ( those enlightened will understand what i mean) and all suffering would be erased etc etc making earth paradise again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15571641 I thought the two witnesses were angelic in nature. It mentions they have a heavenly existence.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14770674 Well, the two witnesses are both witnessing all that happens in the tribulation plus they also have power over the sky and waters, and are able to strike the earth with plagues. so it is quite clear that they are two celestial bodies.Their existance is heavenly because they live in the heavens and from heaven they can witnness everything. The doubt I have is whether this celestial bodies are the sun and the moon or the sun and venus or some other planet/comet. But i am 100% sure they are two celestial bodies/stars/planets. |
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User ID: 15741925 United Kingdom 05/09/2012 06:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Nibiru/2012/Mayan calendar/End of the World: celestial alignment of Hopi prophecy: What about the TRANSIT OF VENUS ON THE 5TH/6TH OF JUNE 2012? now people gonna say 2012 is 2 and 012 which is 2 and 12 2 goes into 12 6 times so now we have 6 6 and 6 No one knows the day when the world will end. Only God. We will get lots of people claiming to know. But they seek to mislead men. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15769166 Croatia 05/09/2012 06:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Nibiru/2012/Mayan calendar/End of the World: celestial alignment of Hopi prophecy: What about the TRANSIT OF VENUS ON THE 5TH/6TH OF JUNE 2012? It would be interesting to hear what Hopis think about it today. Someone to ask them? [link to www.hopi-nsn.gov] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15571641 Spain 05/09/2012 07:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Nibiru/2012/Mayan calendar/End of the World: celestial alignment of Hopi prophecy: What about the TRANSIT OF VENUS ON THE 5TH/6TH OF JUNE 2012? 6/6/2012 Quoting: rkingpin now people gonna say 2012 is 2 and 012 which is 2 and 12 2 goes into 12 6 times so now we have 6 6 and 6 No one knows the day when the world will end. Only God. We will get lots of people claiming to know. But they seek to mislead men. No, we are saying the 6 of 6 and the transist will last 6 hours, which makes it 666. Also we are not talking about the end of the world but when things will start to really get bad, you can call it tribulation or whatever you prefer and from then it will take until 2015 to really end and as you say noone knows the exact date although we can know more or less. The effects of Venus changing its orbit, plus the sun flares will first affect peoples minds (brain waves,etc) and that is why in the bible (which by the way is a metaphoric account of the celestial movements of planets, venus, the sun etc) it says that first when the tribulation starts brothers will turn against brothers, there will be wars etc., That is what we will see first happening, so from 6th june expect to see tension amongst countries increasing to the point of wars, etc |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15571641 Spain 05/09/2012 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Nibiru/2012/Mayan calendar/End of the World: celestial alignment of Hopi prophecy: What about the TRANSIT OF VENUS ON THE 5TH/6TH OF JUNE 2012? For the mayas ,Venus: (Lamat Glyph, Venus), Chak Ek' was the astronomical object of greatest interest, the Maya knew it better than any civilization outside Mesoamerica. In Maya myth, Venus is the companion of the sun. This no doubt reflects the fact that Venus is always close to the sun in the sky, rising not long before sunrise as morning star (Ah-Chicum-Ek') or after sunset as evening star (Lamat). They thought it was more important than the Sun. They watched it carefully as it moved through its stations, it takes 584 days for Venus and the Earth to line up in their previous position as compared to the Sun. It takes about 2922 days for the Earth, Venus, the Sun, and the stars to agree. The Maya made daytime observations of Venus. Venus had a psychological effect upon the Maya, it has been shown in the Dos Pilas staircase, that the Maya were timing some of their wars based on the stationary points of Venus and Jupiter, (The famous Star War between Tikal and Dos Pilas, Naranjo and allies). Humans were sacrificed on first appearance after Superior Conjunction when Venus was at its dimmest magnitude but they most feared the first Heliacal Rising after Inferior Conjunction. In the Dresden Codex, the Maya had an almanac that displayed the full cycle of Venus. Venus cycles were the mean synodic Venus year of 584 days and a "great cycle" of 37960 days (the lowest common multiple of the Tzolkin, and the Venus year, equal to 104 calendar years or 2 calendar rounds). In Rio Azul's tomb 19 the Lamat or Venus Glyph is beautifully painted. A "star war" is a full-scale war planned in accordance with specific astronomical events, usually the first appearance in the morning sky of the planet Venus. The heliacal rising of the brilliant "star" in the pre-dawn sky was considered by the Maya as a highly evil portent. As such it was an appropriate herald of warfare, at least on the part of the attacker. (Schelle) They most feared the first Heliacal Rising after Inferior Conjunction.The heliacal rising of the brilliant "star" in the pre-dawn sky was considered by the Maya as a highly evil portent.And .... When is this going to happen??? After the transit of the 6th of june, Venus will have its first heliacal rising after inferior conjunction. |
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User ID: 13283109 United States 05/11/2012 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Nibiru/2012/Mayan calendar/End of the World: celestial alignment of Hopi prophecy: What about the TRANSIT OF VENUS ON THE 5TH/6TH OF JUNE 2012? Nothing happened in the 2004 transit, what makes this so different? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1339043 The 2004 Venus transit set things into motion, this one is the 2nd in a pair and is the one to set off what was put into play. It wont occur again until 2117. They happen in pairs, the first one primes it and the second one ignites. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14586542 United States 05/31/2012 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Nibiru/2012/Mayan calendar/End of the World: celestial alignment of Hopi prophecy: What about the TRANSIT OF VENUS ON THE 5TH/6TH OF JUNE 2012? I thought I heard somewhere that Venus' will then start going the opposite way or it will appear as such Last night, at exactly midnight it seems, I awoke from a dream (impromptu rest) and when I awoke I saw something I've never seen before, many many numbers/characters spinning swiftly all around me. I'm relatively new to all the spirituality stuff and have been working on awareness, remembering dreams, meditation, visions, etc. Anyway, when I focused a little bit on the numbers I saw a large '6' with a smaller '6' rotating around it. I didn't focus on it much after, I felt groggy and didn't even mean to sleep. Anyway I searched for 6/6 and June 6 on here to find some similar threads and see a lot about the obvious venus transit (and reversal possibly?) Also, for the dream, I was in some sort of large mall-like construction but it also had wildlife, gardens, ponds I think. Anyway, I don't remember much (pretty hard and new to me all this stuff) but I was enjoying the nature parts of this place. Just before I awoke I saw this large beautiful strange looking yellow and some other color flower. I forgot what I did, I either ate a piece or cut the flower of something and then either berries or bugs started pelting my body after doing such to the flower. I tried to find shelter and quickly woke up after to the weird things spinning around me (I fell asleep/dreaming while sitting in my living room with a light on). Tried to find a decent 6/6 thread to post this in and this seems sufficient. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14586542 United States 05/31/2012 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Nibiru/2012/Mayan calendar/End of the World: celestial alignment of Hopi prophecy: What about the TRANSIT OF VENUS ON THE 5TH/6TH OF JUNE 2012? I think it was rotating counter-clockwise but could be wrong. Other types of details I need to learn to try to remember with my dreams. Some other possibly related dreams had me running away from Obama in my old house (though his daughters seemed to want to help me while they were going through it as well) Another was I think Obama, or some other person, with me in a building at night (I'm guessing in chicago where I live) and there was a big tornado going through the buildings outside. |
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