What is known regarding the "Pulsating Orbs of Light" UFO's showing up worldwide!

Gee, I wonder why the UK - land of the Group Relations Institute and "Crop Circle" is reporting all these "pulsating orb" UFOs?


Researchers working with high-power laser weapons discovered that they could create a glowing ball of fire in the sky by crossing the beams of two powerful infrared lasers…By moving the laser beams around the sky, the researchers found they could shift the plasma ball back and forth at very high speed…. At night, they demonstrated their skills, flying their glowing creations in formation high above the cold desert.

[link to www.wired.com]

Great work OP! I think I'v seen those type of orbs here in North Carolina.... The ones I see don't usually move they just pulsate... An there's usually more then one in the sky every clear night an usually in a different spot then the night before.

come On

What is known regarding the "Pulsating Orbs of Light" UFO's showing up worldwide!

The UK Ministry of Defense has revealed regarding these "Pulsating Orbs of Lights" UFO's showing up worldwide right now.


Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) in the UK Air Defence Region

The Ministry of Defence has released this report in response to a Freedom of Information request and we are pleased to now make it available to a wider audience via the MOD Freedom of Information Publication Scheme. Where indicated information is withheld in accordance with Section 26 (Defence), Section 27 (International Relations) and Section 40 (Personal Information) of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

Source - [link to www.mod.uk]

That Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP or UFO) Exist is indisputable. Credited with the ability to hover, land, take off, accelerate to astonishing velocities and vanish. They can reportedly alter their direction of flight suddenly and clearly can exhibit aerodynamics characteristics well beyond those of any known aircraft or missile - either manned or unmanned.

The Conditions for the initial formation and sustaining of what are apparently buoyant charged masses (of Plasma), which can form, separate, merge, hover, climb, dive, and accelerate are not completely understood.

Dependent on a color's temperature and aerosol density, it may be seen visually, either by it self generated plasma color, by reflected light, or silhouette by light blockage and background contrast.

Occasionally and perhaps exceptionally, it seems a field with, undetermined characteristics can exist between certain charged buoyant objects in loose formation, the intervening space between them forms an area, viewed as a shape, often Triangular, from which the reflection of light does not occur. This is a key finding in the attribution of what have frequently been called black "Craft", often triangular and up to hundreds of feet in length.
- The UK Ministry of Defence

Check out this document recently declassified by the UK Ministry Of Defense on Unidentified ]Aerial Phenomenon or UAP's, or as they are called in the US....UFO's

[link to www.mod.uk]

Some qoutes from the above paper...

"The relevance of Plasma and magnetic fields to UAP(UFO) were an unexpected feature of the study"

In So Advising

- It should be stressed that, despite the recent increase in UAP/UFO events, the probobility of encountering a UAP/UFO remainns very low

- No attempt should be made to out-manoeuvre a UAP/UFO during interception

- At higher altitudes, although the UAP/UFO appear to be benign to civil air-traffic, pilots should be advised to not manoeuvre, other than put the object astern if possible - The UK Ministry of Defence




Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies, a leader in Aerospace research has revealed about these "Pulsating Orbs of Light/plasma UFO's"

A pulsating spherical ball of light. The light appears bluish to a yellow green glow. The light it casts is not extremely bright but will cast light on objects immediately surrounding the orb. Typically there is more than 1 orbs gathered. They have the ability to hover and make no noise. There appears to be no physical shape supporting these orbs. A characteristic feature is that they will pulsate their light intensity for a matter of seconds growing extremely bright, and then fading away to nothing as if the object simply vanished. Apparently these have been witnessed during the day but are more visible at night. Have been seen transforming into other animal shapes and is suspected of having the ability to transmorph into the shape of local living animals. Can affect other electrical objects and knocked out the power to the ranch house. Shift between a visible and invisible state as they pulsate on and off.

These are intelligent and purposeful like in nature. I suspect they are some sort of transportation vehicles for another intelligence or the drones for this intelligence. They have a role of observing. They are unique in that they appear almost curious about any humans they come across. They seem to easily detect your presence, and may be influenced by meditative thoughts/requests. I believe their function is to observe, report, and to transport either consciousness, or actual entities within them, as if some form of vessel. This is the most interactive of all the anomalies on the ranch and will pursue and entertain its viewers.

The flash drones (A pulsating spherical ball of light) tend to take on a more interactive role if the observer is alone. The sensation of being hit by one is described as being hit by a high velocity warm water balloon. The after effects of which immediately evaporate away.

Although speculative, the light may only travel in a light-off configuration. When the light is visible, the object appears stationary, however it disappears, only to reappear in a different location. This postulates that the light may possibly be "phasing" in and out from one location to the next.

Artificial or biological like intelligence. Potentially an animal like intelligence. The light radiated is seen in a 180 degree manner and does not cast light behind.

Duration for sightings 1 to 45 minute

Source - [link to www.skinwalkerranch.org]

According to Eugene Erlikh, at approximately 6:45pm EST, on Thursday night (April 8, 2010) a private telephone call came into his residence. Eugene answered and the man on the other end assumed to know it was Eugene and called him by name. The man identified himself as a member of Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies. He did give his name and email that is, in fact, linked to the BAASS.ORG domain name. He asked Eugene a number of questions pertaining to the sightings over Lake Erie. The man then demanded Eugene give up the exact coordinates of the location the lights are appearing. When Eugene questioned the man, he stated he knew the lights were not terrestrial or from this planet and there's big money involved in obtaining that technology.

The host of the Radio show then E-mailed this BAASS Investigator and asked, "Hey, why are you guys calling Egene when Mufon already Stated that these are just Airplanes "Case Closed"?"

This is his actual response.

"In Regards to the Lights over Lake Erie I am not absolutely convinced that they are coming from conventional aircraft. As an investigator I must be completly objective with any UFO's reported which has multiple witnesses. BAASS employees are paid professionals, all the investigators are former law enforcement detectives who have a higher level set of skills and experience. MUFON Takes anyone who pays the money and passes the test and works for free. That does not make them a credible source for information for me to except they're conclusions."
- Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies Investigator

The following is the conclusions from over 25 years of research and after Italian SETI scientists got involved with much more highly sophisticated equipment.

The Portal - The Hessdalen Lights Phenomenon



*The phenomenon is identified as a bright flying object with special characteristics making it unique to science."

*The phenomenon is more complex and diverse than expected, indicating more than 1 single kind of phenomenon."

*The phenomenon is sometimes made up of separate units that may depart and fly away.

*The speed varies from still to 8km per second."

*The phenomenon changes course in speeds indicating no mass by physical means.

*The phenomenon seems to be able to take on pieces of plasma or energy from the ground whilst passing by.

*The phenomenon seems to radiate energy due to the light and frequency change of colour.

*Many interesting spectra in the optical and radio frequency range have been detected but more data is needed to draw proper conclusions.

“These scientific data are quite sensational! We are dealing with a real existing phenomenon which can be observed even though this is difficult.” - Terje Toftenes, 2009

UFO researcher/advocate Jim Dilettoso perform "spectral analysis" of video imagery of these exact same Orbs of Light UFO's showing up Worldwide right now.

Jim Dilettoso proved these Ball Of Light/Plasma could not have been produced by a man-made source.

Dilettoso determined the amount of red, green and blue in the various video images and constructed histograms of the data, which were then compared to a database of known light sources such as flares, Lanterns, Planets, FAA lights, Etc.

The Balls of light UFO's do not match up to any known "spectral analysis" histograms of any known light sources, that was the conclusion.

Starts Aprox. one minute into this clip...
[link to www.youtube.com]

I find this information released by the UK ministry Of Defense and Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies that these Orbs of Light can basically take on any physical form they desire, biological or otherwise very interesting!

"They have been seen transforming into other animal shapes and is suspected of having the ability to transmorph into the shape of local living animals." - Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies

"Occasionally and perhaps exceptionally, it seems a field with, undetermined characteristics can exist between certain charged buoyant objects in loose formation, the intervening space between them forms an area, viewed as a shape, often Triangular, from which the reflection of light does not occur. This is a key finding in the attribution of what have frequently been called black "Craft", often triangular and up to hundreds of feet in length." - The UK Ministry of Defence

I can show you you just have to take my word for it this is real. Watch the last few seconds and you'll see the orb of light. It is extremely fast too. For more info google: TR-3B

I was with a group of 19 very sober and reasonable individuals several months ago, when I saw UFOs with my own eyes for the first time, with the group.

They were these same plasma conditions described in the thread, but in fact have been seen in this region by a huge portion of the population, and the reports are that these "balls of fire" are conscious, and the legend says they are "witches". People sometimes say that they sometimes assume temporary human or animal forms, and will often chase people who are close by.

My humble account is here -
[link to www.artforthemasses.us]
Not a very dramatic UFO story, but I saw it with my own eyes.

I think this may be a plasma phenomenon, and yes it is plausible under concepts of quantum physics that plasma life-forms might exist, and inhabit terrestrial and other environments.

Was at a party for a football game last year and we witnessed an orb that persisted then slowly moved across the sky. Large group saw it.

I feel we are witnessing some of our new electromagnetic weapons or a similar tech. Plasma orbs were sighted over Russia throughout their em weapon development.

Tesla did all kind of cool demonstrations with plasma orbs.

This tech is suppressed, so of course....ITS ALIENS.

Nothing here to fear in my humble opinion.

I also live in NC and have experiences with these orbs.

Here is a picture of me with some of my family and friends who were kind enough to 'drop in' for a group photo.

[link to s483.photobucket.com]

What is known regarding the "Pulsating Orbs of Light" UFO's showing up worldwide!

The UK Ministry of Defense has revealed regarding these "Pulsating Orbs of Lights" UFO's showing up worldwide right now.


Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) in the UK Air Defence Region

The Ministry of Defence has released this report in response to a Freedom of Information request and we are pleased to now make it available to a wider audience via the MOD Freedom of Information Publication Scheme. Where indicated information is withheld in accordance with Section 26 (Defence), Section 27 (International Relations) and Section 40 (Personal Information) of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

Source - [link to www.mod.uk]

That Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP or UFO) Exist is indisputable. Credited with the ability to hover, land, take off, accelerate to astonishing velocities and vanish. They can reportedly alter their direction of flight suddenly and clearly can exhibit aerodynamics characteristics well beyond those of any known aircraft or missile - either manned or unmanned.

The Conditions for the initial formation and sustaining of what are apparently buoyant charged masses (of Plasma), which can form, separate, merge, hover, climb, dive, and accelerate are not completely understood.

Dependent on a color's temperature and aerosol density, it may be seen visually, either by it self generated plasma color, by reflected light, or silhouette by light blockage and background contrast.

Occasionally and perhaps exceptionally, it seems a field with, undetermined characteristics can exist between certain charged buoyant objects in loose formation, the intervening space between them forms an area, viewed as a shape, often Triangular, from which the reflection of light does not occur. This is a key finding in the attribution of what have frequently been called black "Craft", often triangular and up to hundreds of feet in length.
- The UK Ministry of Defence

Check out this document recently declassified by the UK Ministry Of Defense on Unidentified ]Aerial Phenomenon or UAP's, or as they are called in the US....UFO's

[link to www.mod.uk]

Some qoutes from the above paper...

"The relevance of Plasma and magnetic fields to UAP(UFO) were an unexpected feature of the study"

In So Advising

- It should be stressed that, despite the recent increase in UAP/UFO events, the probobility of encountering a UAP/UFO remainns very low

- No attempt should be made to out-manoeuvre a UAP/UFO during interception

- At higher altitudes, although the UAP/UFO appear to be benign to civil air-traffic, pilots should be advised to not manoeuvre, other than put the object astern if possible - The UK Ministry of Defence




Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies, a leader in Aerospace research has revealed about these "Pulsating Orbs of Light/plasma UFO's"

A pulsating spherical ball of light. The light appears bluish to a yellow green glow. The light it casts is not extremely bright but will cast light on objects immediately surrounding the orb. Typically there is more than 1 orbs gathered. They have the ability to hover and make no noise. There appears to be no physical shape supporting these orbs. A characteristic feature is that they will pulsate their light intensity for a matter of seconds growing extremely bright, and then fading away to nothing as if the object simply vanished. Apparently these have been witnessed during the day but are more visible at night. Have been seen transforming into other animal shapes and is suspected of having the ability to transmorph into the shape of local living animals. Can affect other electrical objects and knocked out the power to the ranch house. Shift between a visible and invisible state as they pulsate on and off.

These are intelligent and purposeful like in nature. I suspect they are some sort of transportation vehicles for another intelligence or the drones for this intelligence. They have a role of observing. They are unique in that they appear almost curious about any humans they come across. They seem to easily detect your presence, and may be influenced by meditative thoughts/requests. I believe their function is to observe, report, and to transport either consciousness, or actual entities within them, as if some form of vessel. This is the most interactive of all the anomalies on the ranch and will pursue and entertain its viewers.

The flash drones (A pulsating spherical ball of light) tend to take on a more interactive role if the observer is alone. The sensation of being hit by one is described as being hit by a high velocity warm water balloon. The after effects of which immediately evaporate away.

Although speculative, the light may only travel in a light-off configuration. When the light is visible, the object appears stationary, however it disappears, only to reappear in a different location. This postulates that the light may possibly be "phasing" in and out from one location to the next.

Artificial or biological like intelligence. Potentially an animal like intelligence. The light radiated is seen in a 180 degree manner and does not cast light behind.

Duration for sightings 1 to 45 minute

Source - [link to www.skinwalkerranch.org]

According to Eugene Erlikh, at approximately 6:45pm EST, on Thursday night (April 8, 2010) a private telephone call came into his residence. Eugene answered and the man on the other end assumed to know it was Eugene and called him by name. The man identified himself as a member of Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies. He did give his name and email that is, in fact, linked to the BAASS.ORG domain name. He asked Eugene a number of questions pertaining to the sightings over Lake Erie. The man then demanded Eugene give up the exact coordinates of the location the lights are appearing. When Eugene questioned the man, he stated he knew the lights were not terrestrial or from this planet and there's big money involved in obtaining that technology.

The host of the Radio show then E-mailed this BAASS Investigator and asked, "Hey, why are you guys calling Egene when Mufon already Stated that these are just Airplanes "Case Closed"?"

This is his actual response.

"In Regards to the Lights over Lake Erie I am not absolutely convinced that they are coming from conventional aircraft. As an investigator I must be completly objective with any UFO's reported which has multiple witnesses. BAASS employees are paid professionals, all the investigators are former law enforcement detectives who have a higher level set of skills and experience. MUFON Takes anyone who pays the money and passes the test and works for free. That does not make them a credible source for information for me to except they're conclusions."
- Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies Investigator

The following is the conclusions from over 25 years of research and after Italian SETI scientists got involved with much more highly sophisticated equipment.

The Portal - The Hessdalen Lights Phenomenon



*The phenomenon is identified as a bright flying object with special characteristics making it unique to science."

*The phenomenon is more complex and diverse than expected, indicating more than 1 single kind of phenomenon."

*The phenomenon is sometimes made up of separate units that may depart and fly away.

*The speed varies from still to 8km per second."

*The phenomenon changes course in speeds indicating no mass by physical means.

*The phenomenon seems to be able to take on pieces of plasma or energy from the ground whilst passing by.

*The phenomenon seems to radiate energy due to the light and frequency change of colour.

*Many interesting spectra in the optical and radio frequency range have been detected but more data is needed to draw proper conclusions.

“These scientific data are quite sensational! We are dealing with a real existing phenomenon which can be observed even though this is difficult.” - Terje Toftenes, 2009

UFO researcher/advocate Jim Dilettoso perform "spectral analysis" of video imagery of these exact same Orbs of Light UFO's showing up Worldwide right now.

Jim Dilettoso proved these Ball Of Light/Plasma could not have been produced by a man-made source.

Dilettoso determined the amount of red, green and blue in the various video images and constructed histograms of the data, which were then compared to a database of known light sources such as flares, Lanterns, Planets, FAA lights, Etc.

The Balls of light UFO's do not match up to any known "spectral analysis" histograms of any known light sources, that was the conclusion.

Starts Aprox. one minute into this clip...
[link to www.youtube.com]

I find this information released by the UK ministry Of Defense and Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies that these Orbs of Light can basically take on any physical form they desire, biological or otherwise very interesting!

"They have been seen transforming into other animal shapes and is suspected of having the ability to transmorph into the shape of local living animals." - Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies

"Occasionally and perhaps exceptionally, it seems a field with, undetermined characteristics can exist between certain charged buoyant objects in loose formation, the intervening space between them forms an area, viewed as a shape, often Triangular, from which the reflection of light does not occur. This is a key finding in the attribution of what have frequently been called black "Craft", often triangular and up to hundreds of feet in length." - The UK Ministry of Defence

What is known regarding the "Pulsating Orbs of Light" UFO's showing up worldwide!

The UK Ministry of Defense has revealed regarding these "Pulsating Orbs of Lights" UFO's showing up worldwide right now.


Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) in the UK Air Defence Region

The Ministry of Defence has released this report in response to a Freedom of Information request and we are pleased to now make it available to a wider audience via the MOD Freedom of Information Publication Scheme. Where indicated information is withheld in accordance with Section 26 (Defence), Section 27 (International Relations) and Section 40 (Personal Information) of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

Source - [link to www.mod.uk]

That Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP or UFO) Exist is indisputable. Credited with the ability to hover, land, take off, accelerate to astonishing velocities and vanish. They can reportedly alter their direction of flight suddenly and clearly can exhibit aerodynamics characteristics well beyond those of any known aircraft or missile - either manned or unmanned.

The Conditions for the initial formation and sustaining of what are apparently buoyant charged masses (of Plasma), which can form, separate, merge, hover, climb, dive, and accelerate are not completely understood.

Dependent on a color's temperature and aerosol density, it may be seen visually, either by it self generated plasma color, by reflected light, or silhouette by light blockage and background contrast.

Occasionally and perhaps exceptionally, it seems a field with, undetermined characteristics can exist between certain charged buoyant objects in loose formation, the intervening space between them forms an area, viewed as a shape, often Triangular, from which the reflection of light does not occur. This is a key finding in the attribution of what have frequently been called black "Craft", often triangular and up to hundreds of feet in length.
- The UK Ministry of Defence

Check out this document recently declassified by the UK Ministry Of Defense on Unidentified ]Aerial Phenomenon or UAP's, or as they are called in the US....UFO's

[link to www.mod.uk]

Some qoutes from the above paper...

"The relevance of Plasma and magnetic fields to UAP(UFO) were an unexpected feature of the study"

In So Advising

- It should be stressed that, despite the recent increase in UAP/UFO events, the probobility of encountering a UAP/UFO remainns very low

- No attempt should be made to out-manoeuvre a UAP/UFO during interception

- At higher altitudes, although the UAP/UFO appear to be benign to civil air-traffic, pilots should be advised to not manoeuvre, other than put the object astern if possible - The UK Ministry of Defence




Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies, a leader in Aerospace research has revealed about these "Pulsating Orbs of Light/plasma UFO's"

A pulsating spherical ball of light. The light appears bluish to a yellow green glow. The light it casts is not extremely bright but will cast light on objects immediately surrounding the orb. Typically there is more than 1 orbs gathered. They have the ability to hover and make no noise. There appears to be no physical shape supporting these orbs. A characteristic feature is that they will pulsate their light intensity for a matter of seconds growing extremely bright, and then fading away to nothing as if the object simply vanished. Apparently these have been witnessed during the day but are more visible at night. Have been seen transforming into other animal shapes and is suspected of having the ability to transmorph into the shape of local living animals. Can affect other electrical objects and knocked out the power to the ranch house. Shift between a visible and invisible state as they pulsate on and off.

These are intelligent and purposeful like in nature. I suspect they are some sort of transportation vehicles for another intelligence or the drones for this intelligence. They have a role of observing. They are unique in that they appear almost curious about any humans they come across. They seem to easily detect your presence, and may be influenced by meditative thoughts/requests. I believe their function is to observe, report, and to transport either consciousness, or actual entities within them, as if some form of vessel. This is the most interactive of all the anomalies on the ranch and will pursue and entertain its viewers.

The flash drones (A pulsating spherical ball of light) tend to take on a more interactive role if the observer is alone. The sensation of being hit by one is described as being hit by a high velocity warm water balloon. The after effects of which immediately evaporate away.

Although speculative, the light may only travel in a light-off configuration. When the light is visible, the object appears stationary, however it disappears, only to reappear in a different location. This postulates that the light may possibly be "phasing" in and out from one location to the next.

Artificial or biological like intelligence. Potentially an animal like intelligence. The light radiated is seen in a 180 degree manner and does not cast light behind.

Duration for sightings 1 to 45 minute

Source - [link to www.skinwalkerranch.org]

According to Eugene Erlikh, at approximately 6:45pm EST, on Thursday night (April 8, 2010) a private telephone call came into his residence. Eugene answered and the man on the other end assumed to know it was Eugene and called him by name. The man identified himself as a member of Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies. He did give his name and email that is, in fact, linked to the BAASS.ORG domain name. He asked Eugene a number of questions pertaining to the sightings over Lake Erie. The man then demanded Eugene give up the exact coordinates of the location the lights are appearing. When Eugene questioned the man, he stated he knew the lights were not terrestrial or from this planet and there's big money involved in obtaining that technology.

The host of the Radio show then E-mailed this BAASS Investigator and asked, "Hey, why are you guys calling Egene when Mufon already Stated that these are just Airplanes "Case Closed"?"

This is his actual response.

"In Regards to the Lights over Lake Erie I am not absolutely convinced that they are coming from conventional aircraft. As an investigator I must be completly objective with any UFO's reported which has multiple witnesses. BAASS employees are paid professionals, all the investigators are former law enforcement detectives who have a higher level set of skills and experience. MUFON Takes anyone who pays the money and passes the test and works for free. That does not make them a credible source for information for me to except they're conclusions."
- Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies Investigator

The following is the conclusions from over 25 years of research and after Italian SETI scientists got involved with much more highly sophisticated equipment.

The Portal - The Hessdalen Lights Phenomenon



*The phenomenon is identified as a bright flying object with special characteristics making it unique to science."

*The phenomenon is more complex and diverse than expected, indicating more than 1 single kind of phenomenon."

*The phenomenon is sometimes made up of separate units that may depart and fly away.

*The speed varies from still to 8km per second."

*The phenomenon changes course in speeds indicating no mass by physical means.

*The phenomenon seems to be able to take on pieces of plasma or energy from the ground whilst passing by.

*The phenomenon seems to radiate energy due to the light and frequency change of colour.

*Many interesting spectra in the optical and radio frequency range have been detected but more data is needed to draw proper conclusions.

“These scientific data are quite sensational! We are dealing with a real existing phenomenon which can be observed even though this is difficult.” - Terje Toftenes, 2009

UFO researcher/advocate Jim Dilettoso perform "spectral analysis" of video imagery of these exact same Orbs of Light UFO's showing up Worldwide right now.

Jim Dilettoso proved these Ball Of Light/Plasma could not have been produced by a man-made source.

Dilettoso determined the amount of red, green and blue in the various video images and constructed histograms of the data, which were then compared to a database of known light sources such as flares, Lanterns, Planets, FAA lights, Etc.

The Balls of light UFO's do not match up to any known "spectral analysis" histograms of any known light sources, that was the conclusion.

Starts Aprox. one minute into this clip...
[link to www.youtube.com]

I find this information released by the UK ministry Of Defense and Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies that these Orbs of Light can basically take on any physical form they desire, biological or otherwise very interesting!

"They have been seen transforming into other animal shapes and is suspected of having the ability to transmorph into the shape of local living animals." - Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies

"Occasionally and perhaps exceptionally, it seems a field with, undetermined characteristics can exist between certain charged buoyant objects in loose formation, the intervening space between them forms an area, viewed as a shape, often Triangular, from which the reflection of light does not occur. This is a key finding in the attribution of what have frequently been called black "Craft", often triangular and up to hundreds of feet in length." - The UK Ministry of Defence

Ill add one more piece of info...The Triangles the illuminate sport around are REAL!!!!!!!!!!! not just a symbol! and they can take over your thoughts!