88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2117319 United States 04/13/2012 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! This is no different to European style unemployment rates. Unemployment looks bad for politicians. Anything to skew the numbers for them is a good thing for them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 846701 We need something like a civilian monitoring system. Something to be able to check on the well and being of big brother government and politicians. They bring the rights/etc/laws forward and we have a jury or rather a panel that is pre selected and screened through common sense and fairness. Sounds kinda like a chip implant. This is no different to European style unemployment rates. Unemployment looks bad for politicians. Anything to skew the numbers for them is a good thing for them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 846701 We need something like a civilian monitoring system. Something to be able to check on the well and being of big brother government and politicians. They bring the rights/etc/laws forward and we have a jury or rather a panel that is pre selected and screened through common sense and fairness. Sounds kinda like a chip implant. how is that? Its putting the public in control for once. Where you got chip I do not know. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1544142 United States 04/14/2012 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! Be Patriotic: Don’t Vote Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14354892 by Thomas J. DiLorenzo Murray Rothbard once wrote that even the most brutal dictator ultimately bases his power on the opinions that are held by a majority of the population that is under his rule. After all, even dictators with large armies tend to be vastly outnumbered by the populations they rule over, and revolution is always on the dictator’s mind. That’s probably how he gained power himself in the first place — the previous dictator was, well, too dictatorial and created the conditions for his own overthrow. Democratic regimes also base their legitimacy on their ability to claim that their rule is “the will of the people.” They believe in democracy with all their will, they tell us, so much so that generations of American politicians have believed that it was legitimate to wage war on other nations and to kill thousands of their citizens to impose “democracy” on them. Lincoln’s armies killed some 300,000 fellow citizens and maimed for life an even greater number, supposedly so that “government of the people, by the people, for the people,” i.e., democracy, shall not perish from the earth. This of course was pure B.S.: Had the South seceded peacefully, democracy would have still existed in the U.S., the Confederate States of America, Canada, England, France, etc., etc. Nevertheless, that was an official purpose of the war, and of numerous other American wars. Woodrow Wilson brought America into World War I to supposedly “make the world safe for democracy.” We are now supposedly bringing democracy to Iraq at bayonet point with numerous other Middle East countries in our sights. But America was not founded as a democracy. It was a constitutional republic. The whole purpose of the Constitution, James Madison wrote in Federalist #10, was to control “the violence of faction,” by which he meant democracy. That’s why, until the Lincolnian “Civil War Amendments” were added to it, every part of the Constitution was a prohibition of some kind of governmental power or activity. Democracy was made into a “civil religion” by Lincoln and subsequent generations of Lincolnites who have successfully overthrown the constitutional republic of the founding fathers. These constitutional prohibitions or limitations are all but ignored today, of course. The Constitution does not provide for the central government to get involved in education, let alone sending a man — and untold millions or billions of dollars — to Mars. There are no longer any constitutional limitations on the central government. Washington politicians laugh and sneer at libertarian think tank employees who occasionally appear before their committees to oppose this or that government program on constitutional grounds. They laugh and say to them, “we’ve got the power to do it, and we’re going to do it.” I’ve seen it with my own eyes on C-SPAN. President Clinton’s Surgeon General, Joycelyn Elders, went so far as to assert that the constitution allowed for a federal masturbation education program. Even Bill Clinton thought that went a little too far and fired the good doctor. The Republican Party today stands for an explosive growth of the welfare state and is spending money on such programs as fast as Lyndon Johnson ever did. The Democrats are as bad or worse. On foreign policy the Republican Party is dominated by crazed Wilsonians who want to involve the U.S. military in perpetual global warfare “to spread democracy.” As with all such imperialistic ventures, this would eventually bankrupt the country and create countless enemies who would like nothing better than to destroy us by the millions with nuclear weapons or poison. The Democrats are as bad or worse. Both political parties are competing to grant amnesty to all illegal aliens, as the first step along the way to allowing completely open borders. Combining open borders with an explosively growing welfare state will invite all the deadbeats of the world to come to America, with all their extended family members in tow, to “celebrate democracy” by voting themselves more and more of the hard-earned dollars of those of us who work for a living in this country. This would cause the welfare state to eventually eat up a huge portion of national income, probably half or more. American taxpayers would be nothing but docile slaves to the Washington, D.C. plantation. The government schools long ago gave up teaching anything significant about the founding fathers, the Constitution, and the philosophy of limited government — other than to trash and demean them. In a democracy it is not in the state’s best interest to educate its own citizens about the virtues of limited government, and ours doesn’t. And it certainly will never make any attempt to do so with the hordes of new immigrants it hopes to attract (and register to vote). Belief in the Constitution is essentially a lost cause. That’s why it is unpatriotic to vote. Being patriotic in America means being devoted to the Constitution, if not the natural rights philosophy that motivated much of it. Since neither of the major political parties has any interest whatsoever in enforcing the constitutional limitations on the state, they are all traitors to the Constitution (with one lone exception, Congressman Ron Paul). Anyone who supports them is also behaving in a traitorous manner. That is, anyone who votes for any of them. Voting only allows these traitors to the Constitution to proclaim that “the people have spoken” and “I am your president,” or congressman, senator, governor, or whatever. Their legitimacy rests solely on their ability to make this claim. Imagine what a patriotic thrill you would receive if, in the next presidential election, a mere 10 percent of the electorate, instead of the usual 50 percent or so, voted. The unconstitutional regime in Washington would be de-legitimized. The upside is that it might just be possible that some politicians in Washington would get the message and start behaving more like a George Washington or Thomas Jefferson than a Tony Soprano or Vito Corleone (with apologies to all the distinguished Italian-Americans out there). The downside is that they will keep on behaving as they do now — with complete contempt for the Constitution and the population it is supposed to benefit. So be patriotic: Don’t vote. This really is our only option to get our message to Washington! Plus it's the easiest thing to ask people to do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4611592 Australia 04/14/2012 12:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! hardly, that's how labor statistics are done. people "not in the labor force" are often people like students, retirees, sick, disabled, children, etc. you can't just pretend that everybody "not in the labor force" is a fully fit and fully trained worker, ready to work, but dropped out. that is not realistic at all. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14103438 United States 04/14/2012 04:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! even the concept of "no longer in the workforce". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11132818 HOW DO YOU LIVE, if you are no longer in the workforce and no longer eligible for benefits? You dont, you still have needs that you get from somewhere. NOBODY is out of the workforce, unless theyre dead. Everyone needs to be productive, and to be productive, you have to work. The whole wordplay bollocks should be no longer be tolerated, and to do that you have to stop accepting bollocks in word or deed That's a good call for the people of the world when we begin overthrowing the governments.. no more ambiguity, no more secrecy, no more double languages (when it comes to legality), no more semantics. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11206523 United Kingdom 04/14/2012 06:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! Its no different than any other country. Take for example the UK or Ireland. You could double the OFFICIAL unemployment rates in both these countries. The unemployment rates in these countries don't include the self-employed. The self-employed aren't allowed to claim unemployment benefit so if they have no work it isn't going to show up on any Government stats. Over half of all construction workers and tradesmen are self-employed, there is no work in construction. My cousin who is an investment banker got laid off 7 months ago. He won't claim unemployment benefit because it won't look good on his cv. He is living of his savings. He informed me there are 1000s like him in banking, Law and Medicine. It's not just Obama, not just the US, it is every country! No-one knows how bad the crisis really is....We can only just guess. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1121444 United States 04/14/2012 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! Its no different than any other country. Take for example the UK or Ireland. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11206523 You could double the OFFICIAL unemployment rates in both these countries. The unemployment rates in these countries don't include the self-employed. The self-employed aren't allowed to claim unemployment benefit so if they have no work it isn't going to show up on any Government stats. Over half of all construction workers and tradesmen are self-employed, there is no work in construction. My cousin who is an investment banker got laid off 7 months ago. He won't claim unemployment benefit because it won't look good on his cv. He is living of his savings. He informed me there are 1000s like him in banking, Law and Medicine. It's not just Obama, not just the US, it is every country! No-one knows how bad the crisis really is....We can only just guess. my educated guess: it is VERY FUCKING BAD! [link to theburningplatform.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12498912 United States 04/14/2012 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! ------------------------------------------------------------ New ways for employment : 1.- Employ yourself; do it yourself all the way. 2.- Your place, your office, your productive location. 3.- Go green, go ambientalist, go pacifist. 4.- Learn the future economy: bartners. ------------------------------------------------------------ I work from home as an IT contractor while attending accredited college online getting my 4 year degree. Saves SOOOOO much money on gas, transportation expenses, $6-12 a day Starbucks habit, $6 a day on lunch not to even mention the reduced stress! I work at home also and have found the same savings... I figured it is over 500 dollars a month total |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1832654 United States 04/14/2012 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! Talking to my corporate consultant I asked where would my status be if i filled out the selective service form, but never registered to vote .. He said 'your officially in the grey area' ..... I said i'll do one better in that they have already admitted treason on the record ... (penalty of perjury on your forms) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11132818 United States 04/14/2012 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! Nothing is accomplished without pain, nothing is accomplished without sacrifice. Be prepared, read history Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14354030 pretty much, to begin a healing the sepsis has to be identified, segregated, exterminated and discarded. Right now, the sepsis is identifying you, segregating you and is in the process of exterminating you so they can discard you and keep all what you had. There is a choice, and not one where you dont break a sweat and everyone leaves as friends. There is an excellent reason for boarders and no good reason for the lack of them |
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User ID: 13365866 United States 04/14/2012 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! Look! People or sheeple or whatever you enjoy calling yourselves - yes - this merry-little-slave-trade you call Human "Productivity" is about to end. Damn it! It's about time this planet was brought in to accordance with UNIVERSAL law...and it will. We're scheduled to. So 2 pieces of advice: 1) Enjoy the ride on the way there 2) If need be......get over it. |
LoVeLiGHT420
(OP) User ID: 16668559 United States 07/25/2012 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! To visit my blog just search: VILE: Vatican Illuminati Lies Exposed "What we do in life ripples in eternity." ~ Marcus Aureliu If you seek truth you will not seek victory by dishonorable means, and if you find truth you will become invincible. -Epictetus |
TechRaider
User ID: 8668963 United States 07/25/2012 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! Eric's Biatch? Nancy's giagallo? Kenyan marxist riding dirty? Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
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User ID: 19545845 United States 07/25/2012 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! So be patriotic: Don’t vote. And that is exactly what got us into this mess. People were so turned off by the political fighting that they choose not to vote. This in turn elected the most criminal and destructive president this country has ever created. Less than sixty percent of qualified voters did actually vote. Yet Pennsylvania and Ohio ended up casting 200,000 more votes than there are qualified voters. The democrats bitch and moan about how voter ID's limit minority voting, and when they don't vote, they then stuff the ballot box. They actually want voters not to vote so that they can stuff the ballot box, buying the election. So you really want to be Patriotic? Then vote. Force it to become a legal election. Not voting only insures that it will never be a clean election. If everyone that is legally entitled to vote, voted, then it would be a lot more difficult to stuff the ballot box. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13519069 United States 07/25/2012 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! Are you guys kidding? It's the same measure that's been used for every single President. Why would it be fair to suddenly include the people who aren't looking for work or claiming benefits just because it's Obama? The bias is strong indeed. Quoting: Devilmay Wrong. Check this link out: [link to www.americanthinker.com] Without getting too bogged down in the weeds of employment statistics, the U3 -- or headline rate -- is what is considered "the" unemployment rate. That is what was reported at 8.6 this week. The U6 rate combines unemployed and "underemployed" and is at 15.6%. That's a great indicator, but the newsmaker is U3. The U3 rate is the percentage of the "participating labor force" that is unemployed. That is all well and good, except that the Obama labor department has decided that it will simply manipulate the definition of "labor force" to suit its own needs. And what the Obama administration has done is simply shrink the definition of the "labor force" by pretending that hundreds of thousands of non-working adults are no longer in existence for all intents and purposes. If you are offended that under ObamaCare you may be considered "a unit," you should know that under Obama employment stats you may not even exist! In fact, a lot of non-working adults who existed in October apparently no longer do exist officially. Where's the proof that the Obama administration has changed the definition of what constitutes "labour force", because I don't see it here. Not to mention that many pollsters such as Gallup haven't changed their definition by request of the government - they are continuing to use the same system they employed under Bush, Clinton, Bush Snr, Reagan and so forth.. Obama hasn't changed their methods. I call BS on that. You dont know Obama then, he is the most corrupt president in US history, he hires devoted outright Communists to his administration. That should wake some sheep up. Unfortunitaly most af America is asleep and playing with thier I-Phones while Obambo Ignores the laws on the books, and acts like a king. The unemploymnet rate is a bogus number evryone that pays attention knows it, it does not matter who the president is, but it would not surprise me if Obambo created new parameters or ignored others , he will do anything to get re-elected, once that happens the true SHTF because he wil not be worrying about re-electiuon |
TechRaider
User ID: 8668963 United States 07/25/2012 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! If you possess a single brain cell please DO NOT vote! Geo. Soros Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1925758 United States 07/25/2012 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! Another White House problem comes from this in the CBO report: “The share of unemployed people looking for work for more than six months — referred to as the long-term unemployed — topped 40% in December 2009 for the first time since 1948, when such data began to be collected; it has remained above that level ever since.” [link to www.markmeckler.com] [link to piglipstick.blogspot.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1364318 United States 07/25/2012 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! When are people going to realize? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14223452 With a "government" that plans to violently attack it's own citizens (I mean WHO are the hundreds and hundreds of MILLIONS of DHS flesh-shredding .40 cal rounds and bulletproof checkpoint booths really for), and lies to you about virtually everything, that these "people" are your ENEMY? An innocuous government would not have laws on the books that TOTALLY negate the US constitution, and provide for the military to be used against the citizenry, and also allow the "government" to LEGALLY disappear you, even if you are totally INNOCENT. Even torture, deport, and/or KILL YOU, all legally, and even if you are never CHARGED with a crime!! Should we be surprised that they've been doing what they've ALWAYS been doing, which is to blatantly LIE about the REAL unemployment figures? Hold on tight, because all of their preparation hasn't been done for nothing. They plan on killing a very large percentage of you. Believe and prepare, or deny and die. Don't worry tard they won't kill you. They need you to keep the machine running smoothly. Just don't try to skip out on the bill, because thats when they will come for you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20331401 United States 07/25/2012 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! If 88 million are unaccounted for in a working force of 240 million, total unemployment is "greater than" 36%. [link to research.stlouisfed.org] Fucking dumbass, go back to grade school! |
telling it straight
User ID: 1461054 United States 07/25/2012 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! OP, John Williams --an economist who's been reporting government numbers for 30+ years--has been reporting >22% unemployment as the correct number for at least the last year. [link to www.shadowstats.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 905924 United States 07/25/2012 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! even the concept of "no longer in the workforce". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11132818 HOW DO YOU LIVE, if you are no longer in the workforce and no longer eligible for benefits? You dont, you still have needs that you get from somewhere. NOBODY is out of the workforce, unless theyre dead. Everyone needs to be productive, and to be productive, you have to work. The whole wordplay bollocks should be no longer be tolerated, and to do that you have to stop accepting bollocks in word or deed Not true - there are a lot of homes where there were once two incomes, and now there's only one. And there are a lot of adult children who have moved back home with mom and dad. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5859380 United States 07/25/2012 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: 88 Million (1 in 3 Americans) Are Invisible to Government Un-Employment Statistics! Real rate is 20% or more! ------------------------------------------------------------ New ways for employment : 1.- Employ yourself; do it yourself all the way. 2.- Your place, your office, your productive location. 3.- Go green, go ambientalist, go pacifist. 4.- Learn the future economy: bartners. ------------------------------------------------------------ Hey solution Guy or Girl, 5. Eat less, spend less, and buy less. good lookin out! |