LUCIFER is JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR!!! AKA MORNING STAR | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15069046 Philippines 04/25/2012 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice try, Satan's pawn. Satan means opposer or adversary Quoting: INFINITE BEING Devil means accuser or slanderer Lucifer means light bearer, light bringer, known as morning star, replaced phosphorus in translation of bible. Jesus(yeshua) is also known as the morning star. None of these names are the title or names of beings. And the letter J wasn't invented until 1600s so quit praying in the name of Jesus or Jehovah, if you believe an entities name is important than better get who your praying to right. |
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tonybeaver User ID: 31239850 United States 12/31/2012 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reverse Engineering the Bible: The Bright and Morning Star. Isaiah 14:12 "How you are fallen from heaven, O shining star, son of the morning! You have been thrown down to the earth, you who destroyed the nations of the world." Revelation 22:16 "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this message for the churches. I am both the 'source' of David and the heir to his throne. I am the bright morning star." Question: "Why are both Jesus and Satan referred to as the morning star?" Answer: Isaiah 14:12–14 12 “How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! 13 You said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far reaches of the north; 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.’ " Ezekiel 28:11–19 11 Moreover, the word of the Lord came to me: 12 “Son of man, araise a lamentation over the 'king of Tyre', and say to him, Thus says the Lord God: “You were the signet of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. 13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was your covering, gsardius, topaz, and diamond, beryl, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, emerald, and carbuncle; and crafted in gold were your settings and your engravings. On the day that you were created they were prepared. 14 You were an anointed guardian cherub. I placed you; you were on the holy mountain of God; in the midst of the stones of fire you walked. 15 You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created, till unrighteousness was found in you. 16 In the abundance of your trade you were filled with violence in your midst, and you sinned; so I cast you as a profane thing from the mountain of God, and I destroyed you, O guardian cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 17 Your heart was proud because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor. I cast you to the ground; I exposed you before kings, to feast their eyes on you. 18 By the multitude of your iniquities, in the unrighteousness of your trade you profaned your sanctuaries; so I brought fire out from your midst; it consumed you, and I turned you to ashes on the earth in the sight of all who saw you. 19 All who know you among the peoples are appalled at you; you have come to a dreadful end and shall be no more forever.” Revelation 21:18–21 18 The wall was built of jasper, while the city was pure gold, like clear glass. 19 The foundations of the wall of the city were adorned with every kind of jewel. The first was jasper, the second sapphire, the third agate, the fourth emerald, 20 the fifth onyx, the sixth carnelian, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, the twelfth amethyst. 21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls, each of the gates made of a single pearl, and the street of the city was pure gold, like transparent glass. Revelation 5:5 5 And one of the elders said to me, “Weep no more; behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered, so that he can open the scroll and its seven seals.” 1 Peter 5:8 8 Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. From the ground up: The first reference to the morning star as an individual is in Isaiah 14:12: “How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!” (NIV). The KJV and NKJV both translate “morning star” as “Lucifer, son of the morning.” It is clear from the rest of the passage that Isaiah is referring to Satan’s fall from heaven (Luke 10:18). So in this case, the morning star refers to Satan. In Revelation 22:16, Jesus unmistakably identifies Himself as the morning star. Why are both Jesus and Satan described as the “morning star?” It is interesting to note that the concept of the “morning star” is not the only concept that is applied to both Jesus and Satan. In Revelation 5:5, Jesus is referred to as the Lion of the tribe of Judah. In 1 Peter 5:8, Satan is compared to a lion, seeking someone to devour. The point is this, both Jesus and Satan, have similarities to lions. Jesus is similar to a lion in that He is the King, He is royal and majestic. Satan is similar to a lion in that he seeks to devour other creatures. That is where the similarities between Jesus, Satan, and lions tell us that the story goes on. The idea of a “bright morning star” is a star that outshines all the others. Satan, as perhaps the most beautiful creation of God, probably the most powerful of all the angels, was a bright morning star. Jesus, as God incarnate, the Lord of the universe, the bright and morning star. Jesus is the most holy and powerful “light” in all the universe. So, while both Jesus and Satan can be described as “bright morning stars,” the code goes farther. At first glance, the prophecy in Ezekiel 28:11-19 seems to refer to a human king. Tyre was the recipient of some of the strongest prophetic condemnations in the Bible (Isaiah 23:1–18; Jeremiah 25:22; 27:1–11; Ezekiel 26:1–28:19; Joel 3:4–8; Amos 1:9,10). Tyre was known for building its wealth by exploiting its neighbors. Ancient writers referred to the city of Tyre as a city filled with unscrupulous merchants. Tyre was a center of religious idolatry and sexual immorality. The biblical prophets rebuked Tyre for its pride brought on by its great wealth and strategic location. Ezekiel 28:11-19 seems to be a particularly strong indictment against the King of Tyre in the prophet Ezekiel’s day, rebuking the king for his insatiable pride and greed. However, some of the descriptions in Ezekiel 28:11-19 go beyond any mere human king. In no sense could an earthly king claim to be “in Eden” or to be “the anointed cherub who covers” or to be “on the holy mountain of God.” Therefore, most Bible interpreters believe that Ezekiel 28:11-19 is a dual prophecy, comparing the pride of the King of Tyre to the pride of Satan. Some propose that the King of Tyre was actually possessed by Satan, making the link between the two even more powerful and applicable. Before his fall, Satan was indeed a beautiful creature (Ezekiel 28:12-13). He was perhaps the most beautiful and powerful of all the angels and still is. The phrase “guardian cherub” possibly indicates that Satan was the angel who “guarded” God’s presence. Pride led to Satan’s fall. Rather than give God the glory for creating him so beautifully, Satan took pride in himself, thinking that he himself was responsible for his exalted status. Satan’s rebellion resulted in God casting Satan from His presence onto the earth. Like Satan, the human King of Tyre was prideful. Rather than recognize God’s sovereignty, the King of Tyre attributed Tyre’s riches to his own wisdom and strength. Not satisfied with his extravagant position, the King of Tyre sought more and more, resulting in Tyre taking advantage of other nations, expanding its own wealth at the expense of others. But just as Satan’s pride led to his fall and will eventually lead to his eternal destruction, so will the city of Tyre lose its wealth, power, and status. Ezekiel’s prophecy of Tyre’s total destruction was fulfilled partially by Nebuchadnezzar (Ezekiel 29:17-21) and ultimately by Alexander the Great. Satan’s fall from heaven is symbolically described in Isaiah 14:12-14 and Ezekiel 28:12-18. While these two passages are referring specifically to the kings of Babylon and Tyre, they also reference the spiritual power behind those kings, namely, Satan. These passages describe why Satan fell, but they do not specifically say when the fall occurred. What we do know is this: the angels were created before the earth (Job 38:4-7). Satan fell before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden (Genesis 3:1-14). Satan’s fall, therefore, must have occurred somewhere after the time the angels were created and before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Whether Satan’s fall occurred a few minutes, hours, or days before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden, Scripture does not specifically say. The book of Job tells us that, for a time at least, Satan still had access to heaven and to the throne of God. “One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them. The LORD said to Satan, ’Where have you come from?’ Satan answered the LORD, ‘From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it’” (Job 1:6-7). Apparently at that time, Satan was still moving freely between heaven and earth, speaking to God directly and answering for his activities. Why did Satan fall from heaven? Satan fell because of pride. He desired to be God, not to be a servant of God and he did this by becoming Jesus Christ. Notice the many “I will...” statements in Isaiah 14:12-15. Ezekiel 28:12-15 describes Satan as an exceedingly beautiful angel. Satan was likely the highest of all angels, the most beautiful of all of God's creations, but he was not content in his position. Instead, Satan desired to be God, to essentially “kick God off His throne” and take over the rule of the universe and earth. Satan wanted to be God, and interestingly enough, that is what Satan tempted Adam and Eve with in the Garden of Eden (Genesis 3:1-5). It would be far more accurate to say God cast Satan out of heaven (Isaiah 14:15; Ezekiel 28:16-17). Satan not only fell from heaven; Satan made the people of this earth worship him as Jesus Christ. |
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Forum Administrator 01/02/2013 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Satan means opposer or adversary Quoting: INFINITE BEING Devil means accuser or slanderer Lucifer means light bearer, light bringer, known as morning star, replaced phosphorus in translation of bible. Jesus(yeshua) is also known as the morning star. None of these names are the title or names of beings. And the letter J wasn't invented until 1600s so quit praying in the name of Jesus or Jehovah, if you believe an entities name is important than better get who your praying to right. [link to www.youtube.com] political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1129812 United States 01/02/2013 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Satan means opposer or adversary Quoting: INFINITE BEING Devil means accuser or slanderer Lucifer means light bearer, light bringer, known as morning star, replaced phosphorus in translation of bible. Jesus(yeshua) is also known as the morning star. None of these names are the title or names of beings. And the letter J wasn't invented until 1600s so quit praying in the name of Jesus or Jehovah, if you believe an entities name is important than better get who your praying to right. This has been done OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER. But, I'll let you have the illusion that you discovered "something new." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84078675 Ireland 08/27/2022 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you mean the bible was written to fool Catholics into believing Christ is God and the sin of messianic expectation. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72816139 United States 08/27/2022 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Revelation 21:18–21 18 The wall was built of jasper, while the city was pure gold, like clear glass. 19 The foundations of the wall of the city were adorned with every kind of jewel. The first was jasper, the second sapphire, the third agate, the fourth emerald, 20 the fifth onyx, the sixth carnelian, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, the twelfth amethyst. 21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls, each of the gates made of a single pearl, and the street of the city was pure gold, like transparent glass. Revelation 5:5 This is the real reason why Anu/El is destroying this planet stealing all its resources. This new Heaven will not be on Earth. Its located in the Sirius System, and is a world sized temple/palace that is being built to orbit Sirius B. Sirius B is the Christ star, it appeared after the death of the first incarnation of Christ into our reality. Anu/El wishes to harvest and drain the Light from this star, just as he drained the Light from Saturn. The few select that go to this temple will not have free will. He is picking the most devout, the best servants of Satan to serve as the souls of his slaves in his new palace temple. El/Anu has already harvested and destroyed dozens of worlds, killing all life on them, just so he can take the crystals and rare metals from them to build his palace. Earth will not survive the damage done. |