About new agers and so on...

Same ole hypocrite pagan BS. The judge and !@#$%^&* christians then in the same breath condemn judging.

It's true, but educated "new-agers" should also do the self-examination of their movement, and dare to speak out their truth more often when others start abusing or spreading manipulative or deceptive ideas. Religious people are expected to do the same, so it's only normal to hope the new-age community will start the work of separating the grain from the chaff. The problem is that usually they have a tendency to say "we can't deny someone an opinion or theory" because new-age is a syncretic movement.

I disagree. Especially if the theory is clearly manipulative or dangerous.

IMHO

that's were we as people need to look and see things for what the are. i know when i read something if its total bs or if it has real information in it. we just have to hope everyone else can rise above stupidity.

Nope. We have a responsibility to share our knowledge with others.

If you fall in a hole in the ground, when you get out, are you going to continue walking thinking "I hope others are more careful than me".

Or will you put a sign saying "Warning, hole in the ground ahead!".


I made my choice.

i didn't say anything about not sharing information. did i? i said we as people need to rise above stupidity.

you don't get it.
yhwh had declared war against everyone who
doesn't believe in "him"
you shall either be converted, enslaved or killed.

your tolerance has absolutely nothing to do with it.

For example, I can't understand how dangerous cults like the Church of scientology can be sued in Europe for being a dangerous sect, and be protected in the US.

Are there really people in the US govt who believe Scientology is not abusive and dangerous? And those who believe it is, can't they do anything? How fucked up is this...

We have a little thing called freedom in this country. People can choose whatever stupidness they want to sign up for.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOh!!!! I tuned back in at just the right time!

Yhwh sounds like such a nice guy. I'm gonna jump right on his band wagon.

No one can convert, enslave or kill me. I am not my body afterall. Give it your best shot Yhwh.

Truth....it's a personal thing. When you have an experience in life..it teaches you. just because another person doesn't share your truth doesn't make it any less true for you. And just because you don't believe someone elses truth doesn't make it any less true for another.

So brainwashing and money extortion is not an offence? Sounds nice.

I agree, but I aint even talking about what is true or not. I'm talking about ethics and law. Manipulation, influence, coercion, scamming.

Have you read any Scientology books? Have you personally taken any courses in Scientology? If not, then you have no right to call it brainwashing. I am not a Scientologist but I did study it and I found it to contain many truths. That doesnt mean tho that it's the end all and be all.

so far that makes us a two person army.
i've got your back.

You know, if you look hard enough at any belief system or ideology you will find some areas of questionable ethics. You may find some outright scams but that doesn't make the original information any less valuable...sometimes it's just a few bad apples in the mix.

Also, to be labelled "new-age" it must be about the new-age of aquarius. Otherwise it's mainly old spiritual teachings, like yoga, meditation, prayer, astral projection, with a new name.

What do you think about that "age of aquarius"? When is it supposed to begin?

Thing is the new age mumble, is not of the new age, its the wery old and worst that skims the surface right now.

A cup is full of bad vine and when good vine is poured into that cup the bad vine overflows.

Again, you try to defend something saying "it's the same elsewhere..."

True. So what? Does that prevent people to act to solve the problems in their own backyard?

What's better? New-agers taking responsibility themselves to sort out the "few bad apples", or waiting for the govt to do it (it won't happen)?

I always call it out when I see it

Thing is the new age mumble, is not of the new age, its the wery old and worst that skims the surface right now.

A cup is full of bad vine and when good vine is poured into that cup the bad vine overflows.

What do you think about Xenu, Zephyr? Does that part of the story ring true too?

What do you think about Xenu, Zephyr? Does that part of the story ring true too?

You wanna know what L.Ron was thinking when he wrote his book, with advices from the occultist Jack Parsons? You wanna know how he joked about how he would start a religion to become rich?

You know what was is previous job? Science-fiction writer.
You want to know where is "knowledge" of the spiritual comes from? Occultism. He was a scribe for Jack Parsons, leader of the Agape Lodge (OTO in the US) and participated in sex magic rituals to invoke demonic entities.

Is that the kind of guy who should be free to spread his "knowledge"?

Who? lol...I know I have heard that name before...I have read many of Sitchens books...have anything to so with that? The annunaki?

Do you have lots of new agers there in Belgium...cos I don't see very many were I live...I mean I know there's lots here in the U.S ... but I live in the country and people are alittle rustic here.