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Kirk
 User ID: 10818676  United States05/08/2012 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it hard to disagree with this information, its all laid out in perfectly easy to understand logic. Naysayers - Have at it, and goooood luck! Quoting: DivineTruth [link to www.luisprada.com] See the following response about the temperature of the space at: [link to imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov] . Here is the text from that website: "The Question: All I wanted to ask you is that if we put a thermometer in Space with no other light or heat source around and absolutely no background radiation there, what would it read? Would the temperature be really cold or what? "The Answer: "Yes, it would be really cold. Temperature measures the energy per "degree of freedom" (i.e., way something can move) of whatever molecules happen to be around. So, it becomes so cold that the molecules stop all together, then this is the "absolute zero" temperature. On the Celsius Temperature Scale (i.e., water freezes at 0, and boils at 100) this takes place at -273 o C. "We usually use the Kelvin temperature scale, where Zero Kelvin is this "absolute zero" temperature -- or -273 o C. Water freezes at +273 o Kelvin and water boils at +373 o Kelvin. "If we put a thermometer in darkest space, with absolutely nothing around, it would first have to cool off. This might take a very very long time. Once it cooled off, it would read 2.7 o Kelvin. This is because of the "3 degree microwave background radiation." No matter where you go, you cannot escape it -- it is always there." Answer by Jonathan Keohane for Ask a High-Energy Astronomer.  Don't know if the arguments on that site are sound, but there is no reason to assume that the sun itself is hot on its surface. Keep up the strange articles :) Sweet Jesus to think I share the highways with you. Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
| Kirk
User ID: 10818676 United States05/08/2012 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I understand what the author is getting at. Heat acts pretty weird in a vacuum Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13578021 but... you can see sun destined comets and asteroids evaporate / ignite before they reach the corona. The only force in the universe that I know to cause things ignite is heat... I don't think you do if you say such silly things. Heat does not ignite things. Heat is a conversion of energy. It is a result of the interaction of an energy source with another energy source. energy is neither created nor destroyed, only converted. ever hear of an atomic bomb? matter becomes energy Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
| Kirk
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1396050  Canada05/08/2012 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | silliest thread ever! We know the sun is freaking hot. Everyone knows that. There is nuclear reactions going on up there! There are elements being broken down and converted. Those kinds of reactions produce a buttload of heat. That is a fact, one that can be studied here on earth. Sure the void of space is cold. Duh. There is nothing there to hold the heat or to get hot. It is our atmosphere that traps the suns heat here and keeps us alive. The sun is hot. It is not cold. Hot. That is a proven scientific fact. |
| Edge Rider
User ID: 1377922 United States05/08/2012 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | even tho the temperature of the suns corona is recorded as being more than a million degrees celsius, an astronaut in the suns corona would actually freeze due to the super thin consistency of the ionized gas. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1377922 ROFLMAO truth is sometimes stranger than fiction... Row, row, row your boat...gently down the stream...merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...life is but a dream... [link to en.wikipedia.org] / [link to www.youtube.com] |
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| buck2shot
User ID: 15722996  India05/08/2012 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | even tho the temperature of the suns corona is recorded as being more than a million degrees celsius, an astronaut in the suns corona would actually freeze due to the super thin consistency of the ionized gas. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1377922 ROFLMAO truth is sometimes stranger than fiction... hey,i noticed your sig,its from the river isnt it(it sucks ass),or is it a generic phrase. Do you have a band-aid? 'Cause I scraped my knee when I fell for you... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15670679  Australia05/08/2012 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | someone failed their physics and thermodynamics class... i mean seriously get educated. I wont even do the effort to educate you with my response. Do you know how the heat can be conducted??? Clue... there is 3 ways... and yes... you can conduct heat in a void space... research. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15723693 what a failed op Question; if the sun was hot wouldn,t the temperature be uniformed on earth. 1 hours drive from here the temp is differet. Think outside the sphere people. Im for the hotless sun theory. Sunny. |
| Zack Ryder
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9994281 Ireland05/08/2012 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | someone failed their physics and thermodynamics class... i mean seriously get educated. I wont even do the effort to educate you with my response. Do you know how the heat can be conducted??? Clue... there is 3 ways... and yes... you can conduct heat in a void space... research. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15723693 what a failed op Question; if the sun was hot wouldn,t the temperature be uniformed on earth. 1 hours drive from here the temp is differet. Think outside the sphere people. Im for the hotless sun theory. Sunny. Hahahahh... Ahhhhhhhhhhhh... Retards abound. This does explain all the Birthers though. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1396050 Canada05/08/2012 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | someone failed their physics and thermodynamics class... i mean seriously get educated. I wont even do the effort to educate you with my response. Do you know how the heat can be conducted??? Clue... there is 3 ways... and yes... you can conduct heat in a void space... research. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15723693 what a failed op Question; if the sun was hot wouldn,t the temperature be uniformed on earth. 1 hours drive from here the temp is differet. Think outside the sphere people. Im for the hotless sun theory. Sunny. no. The heat from the sun has to pass through our atmosphere (which is not uniform) and be absorbed by the earth (not uniform) the earth will absorb and reflect the heat depending on what the material is, how light or dark it is, and water will absorb heat differently than land mass. Black ashphalt will create more heat than grassy fields. Add to that the fact that we have winds and currents that take the heat and move it around a lot, blowing in cold air from the north, or moving cool night air from one region or hot air from a daytime region. This is basic science here. |
| John Everytard
User ID: 1517443 United States05/08/2012 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greetings: Quoting: ST In BG 13416868 The Star Called "Sol" Is Indeed "Cold" ... In That It Is Composed Of Energized Plasma !! However ... The Energies That It Gives Off ... If You Are In A Space Vessel That Is Not Shielded ... These Will Burn You To A Crisp ... For It Is The Interaction Between The Two Contacts ... Which Creates The Heating Effects !! It Is Not Dissimilar To The Effects Which Cause The Heat & Light On Terra/Earth & Other Worlds !! The Star's Plaza Energies ... It's ... What You Refer To As "Radiations" (Which Actually Is Much Much More Then This !!) ... Interacts With The Energies Of Terra/Earth ... A "Frictional Effect" Is Created ... Producing Your Heat & Light !! If The Energies Of The Star/Sun(s) Are Cut Off ... Prevented From Reaching The Planet ... Then The Planet Would Be Dark ... Of Extreme Bitter Cold ... Frozen ... Of The Temperature Of Space !! It Is Why When You Leave The Planet ... That It Suddenly Becomes Dark !! ... If Your Star/Sun Would Be The Sole Source Of Heat & Light (Without Interaction(s) ... Then It Would Remain Lighted & Warm ... As It Becomes Dark ... This Says That There Are "Other Factors" Which Are Involved !! We Would Also Mention ... That Of The Changes That Will Come There ... Of The Volcanoes ... They Will Expell Great Amounts Of Dirt, Dust, Ash, Particulates Into The Planet's Atmosphere ... Of Which This Will Serve To Deflect & Absorb The Solar/Stellar Energies Coming In ... In Effect ... The Same Results Will Occur !! There Will Be Very Little Of The "Radiations/Energies" That Will "Get Through" ... To Act/Interact With Terra/Earth ... Any That Do ... Will Mostly Be Reflected Back Into Space ... From The Polished Miles Thick Icy & Snowy Surface !! ... It Will Be Dark ... & Extremly Extremly Cold !! ... 250 Degrees + Below O ... Dark & Frozen !! ... The Planet Itself Seen ... Suspended/Floating In Space ... It's "Inner Core" In A Suspended/Shut Down State !! Farewell For Now !! ST In BG  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1548135 United States05/08/2012 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | silliest thread ever! We know the sun is freaking hot. Everyone knows that. There is nuclear reactions going on up there! There are elements being broken down and converted. Those kinds of reactions produce a buttload of heat. That is a fact, one that can be studied here on earth. Sure the void of space is cold. Duh. There is nothing there to hold the heat or to get hot. It is our atmosphere that traps the suns heat here and keeps us alive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1396050 The sun is hot. It is not cold. Hot. That is a proven scientific fact. How has it been proven? May I see your proof? How do you know nuclear reactions are occurring in there? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9994281 Ireland05/08/2012 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | silliest thread ever! We know the sun is freaking hot. Everyone knows that. There is nuclear reactions going on up there! There are elements being broken down and converted. Those kinds of reactions produce a buttload of heat. That is a fact, one that can be studied here on earth. Sure the void of space is cold. Duh. There is nothing there to hold the heat or to get hot. It is our atmosphere that traps the suns heat here and keeps us alive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1396050 The sun is hot. It is not cold. Hot. That is a proven scientific fact. How has it been proven? May I see your proof? How do you know nuclear reactions are occurring in there? Go take a science class. There's literally thousands of pieces of verifiable evidence that the sun is hot. Tens of thousands. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1548135 United States05/08/2012 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | silliest thread ever! We know the sun is freaking hot. Everyone knows that. There is nuclear reactions going on up there! There are elements being broken down and converted. Those kinds of reactions produce a buttload of heat. That is a fact, one that can be studied here on earth. Sure the void of space is cold. Duh. There is nothing there to hold the heat or to get hot. It is our atmosphere that traps the suns heat here and keeps us alive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1396050 The sun is hot. It is not cold. Hot. That is a proven scientific fact. How has it been proven? May I see your proof? How do you know nuclear reactions are occurring in there? Go take a science class. There's literally thousands of pieces of verifiable evidence that the sun is hot. Tens of thousands. I've taken many and studied astro and nuclear physics. And so, I ask again - because science says so? Did they take a thermometer to the center of the sun and test it? Did they see the nuclear reaction occur? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9994281 Ireland05/08/2012 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | silliest thread ever! We know the sun is freaking hot. Everyone knows that. There is nuclear reactions going on up there! There are elements being broken down and converted. Those kinds of reactions produce a buttload of heat. That is a fact, one that can be studied here on earth. Sure the void of space is cold. Duh. There is nothing there to hold the heat or to get hot. It is our atmosphere that traps the suns heat here and keeps us alive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1396050 The sun is hot. It is not cold. Hot. That is a proven scientific fact. How has it been proven? May I see your proof? How do you know nuclear reactions are occurring in there? Go take a science class. There's literally thousands of pieces of verifiable evidence that the sun is hot. Tens of thousands. I've taken many and studied astro and nuclear physics. And so, I ask again - because science says so? Did they take a thermometer to the center of the sun and test it? Did they see the nuclear reaction occur? I assume you're either trolling or lying. You can pretend all the evedince is falsified, but if you're being honest about your education you know the answer to your questions. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1548135 United States05/08/2012 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | silliest thread ever! We know the sun is freaking hot. Everyone knows that. There is nuclear reactions going on up there! There are elements being broken down and converted. Those kinds of reactions produce a buttload of heat. That is a fact, one that can be studied here on earth. Sure the void of space is cold. Duh. There is nothing there to hold the heat or to get hot. It is our atmosphere that traps the suns heat here and keeps us alive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1396050 The sun is hot. It is not cold. Hot. That is a proven scientific fact. How has it been proven? May I see your proof? How do you know nuclear reactions are occurring in there? Go take a science class. There's literally thousands of pieces of verifiable evidence that the sun is hot. Tens of thousands. You are proving the point of this thread, Ireland. And that point is that we've been indoctrinated through schools with information that has trickled down from high sources, the same high sources that wrote history to their benefit. These scientists don't KNOW nuclear fusion is taking place in those stars. Take some time to research electric universe theory which makes a HELL Of a lot more sense and defies most of what you've been taught. Don't be a victim of indoctrination. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1548135 United States05/08/2012 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1548135 How has it been proven? May I see your proof? How do you know nuclear reactions are occurring in there? Go take a science class. There's literally thousands of pieces of verifiable evidence that the sun is hot. Tens of thousands. I've taken many and studied astro and nuclear physics. And so, I ask again - because science says so? Did they take a thermometer to the center of the sun and test it? Did they see the nuclear reaction occur? I assume you're either trolling or lying. You can pretend all the evedince is falsified, but if you're being honest about your education you know the answer to your questions. I'm not trolling. I'm supporting the original poster's intent of this thread. How is that trolling? I'm trolling for asking for HARD EVIDENCE of nuclear fusion? LOL, okay, Ireland. What proof do you want - college transcripts? My book collection? My brain? It's not rocket science, it's nuclear physics - we know how the A bomb worked right? How do we know fission/fusion is taking place out there? Did we travel there to see it? No. It's called THEORY. Please do not mistake THEORY for FACT. That is my point. Theoretical physics is the most indoctrinated science out there - and it's sickening to those of us with open and critically thinking minds to see people say "Yes it is, the science books say so!"... no.. these are theories.. just theories. NOT PROOF. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9994281 Ireland05/08/2012 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281 Go take a science class. There's literally thousands of pieces of verifiable evidence that the sun is hot. Tens of thousands. I've taken many and studied astro and nuclear physics. And so, I ask again - because science says so? Did they take a thermometer to the center of the sun and test it? Did they see the nuclear reaction occur? I assume you're either trolling or lying. You can pretend all the evedince is falsified, but if you're being honest about your education you know the answer to your questions. I'm not trolling. I'm supporting the original poster's intent of this thread. How is that trolling? I'm trolling for asking for HARD EVIDENCE of nuclear fusion? LOL, okay, Ireland. What proof do you want - college transcripts? My book collection? My brain? It's not rocket science, it's nuclear physics - we know how the A bomb worked right? How do we know fission/fusion is taking place out there? Did we travel there to see it? No. It's called THEORY. Please do not mistake THEORY for FACT. That is my point. Theoretical physics is the most indoctrinated science out there - and it's sickening to those of us with open and critically thinking minds to see people say "Yes it is, the science books say so!"... no.. these are theories.. just theories. NOT PROOF. Why don't solar panels work at night? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1548135 United States05/08/2012 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1548135 I've taken many and studied astro and nuclear physics. And so, I ask again - because science says so? Did they take a thermometer to the center of the sun and test it? Did they see the nuclear reaction occur? I assume you're either trolling or lying. You can pretend all the evedince is falsified, but if you're being honest about your education you know the answer to your questions. I'm not trolling. I'm supporting the original poster's intent of this thread. How is that trolling? I'm trolling for asking for HARD EVIDENCE of nuclear fusion? LOL, okay, Ireland. What proof do you want - college transcripts? My book collection? My brain? It's not rocket science, it's nuclear physics - we know how the A bomb worked right? How do we know fission/fusion is taking place out there? Did we travel there to see it? No. It's called THEORY. Please do not mistake THEORY for FACT. That is my point. Theoretical physics is the most indoctrinated science out there - and it's sickening to those of us with open and critically thinking minds to see people say "Yes it is, the science books say so!"... no.. these are theories.. just theories. NOT PROOF. Why don't solar panels work at night? Solar panels absorb the sun's energy to charge, yes? When it is night, that energy is coming from the opposite direction of the earth, not directed at the panel, yes? I think you're failing to prove your point here. Wait, what was your point? :) Teasing. It's okay, Ireland. I'm not trying to be offensive, I'm just trying to get you to THINK. Not accept the poster's article, just THINK. It's theoretical physics! Not fact! Namaste, Jessica |
| UndercoverAlien
User ID: 15715750  Brazil05/08/2012 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | someone failed their physics and thermodynamics class... i mean seriously get educated. I wont even do the effort to educate you with my response. Do you know how the heat can be conducted??? Clue... there is 3 ways... and yes... you can conduct heat in a void space... research. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15723693 what a failed op Question; if the sun was hot wouldn,t the temperature be uniformed on earth. 1 hours drive from here the temp is differet. Think outside the sphere people. Im for the hotless sun theory. Sunny. WTF?? This thread took the meaning of stupidity to a whole new level. Dude, are serious?? Besides the fact that Earth is fucking rotating in space, we have a very fancy set of atmospheric phenomena for all tastes, so how could the temperature could possibly be uniform all along the planet?? Who the fuck are these people commenting in this thread??? It looks like the illiterate army took over this forum. "Do or do not. There is no try." (Yoda) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9994281 Ireland05/08/2012 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281 I assume you're either trolling or lying. You can pretend all the evedince is falsified, but if you're being honest about your education you know the answer to your questions. I'm not trolling. I'm supporting the original poster's intent of this thread. How is that trolling? I'm trolling for asking for HARD EVIDENCE of nuclear fusion? LOL, okay, Ireland. What proof do you want - college transcripts? My book collection? My brain? It's not rocket science, it's nuclear physics - we know how the A bomb worked right? How do we know fission/fusion is taking place out there? Did we travel there to see it? No. It's called THEORY. Please do not mistake THEORY for FACT. That is my point. Theoretical physics is the most indoctrinated science out there - and it's sickening to those of us with open and critically thinking minds to see people say "Yes it is, the science books say so!"... no.. these are theories.. just theories. NOT PROOF. Why don't solar panels work at night? Solar panels absorb the sun's energy to charge, yes? When it is night, that energy is coming from the opposite direction of the earth, not directed at the panel, yes? I think you're failing to prove your point here. Wait, what was your point? :) Teasing. It's okay, Ireland. I'm not trying to be offensive, I'm just trying to get you to THINK. Not accept the poster's article, just THINK. It's theoretical physics! Not fact! Namaste, Jessica Lol Jessica. I have a hard time believing you've studied all those things and yet haven't a clue how solar panels work. Lol indeed. The fact is, if all the hard evidence, not conjecture, but hard evidence supporting fusion on the sun was posted on GLP it's servers would melt. There is nothing theoretical about the sun's fusion engine or the sun's temperature. Photovoltaic solar panels work by using photons from the sun to create a flow of electrons. The photons come from the sun's nuclear reaction and can be measured a thousand different ways (and have been). No nuclear reaction, no photons, no solar energy. |
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