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Iran P5+1 Talks: Prospects doubtful say sources close to Iran. Israel Revives Military Option - Withdraws Pledge to Obama!
As Iran and the six major world powers (P5+1) hold the second round of talks in Baghdad, sources close to Iran's negotiating team have described as “vague” the prospects of talks, Press TV reports.

The sources cast doubt about the prospects of the talks if the P5+1 rejects a comprehensive package of proposals offered to the group by Iran on Wednesday.

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welcome back bert5a
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Israel revives military option after Obama rejects its nuclear demands of Iran

Israel has withdrawn its pledge to US President Barack Obama not to strike Iran’s nuclear sites before the November presidential election after he rejected its minimal demands for nuclear negotiations with Iran.


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BAGHDAD - Iran accused world powers on Thursday of creating "a difficult atmosphere" that hindered talks on its atomic energy program, signalling a snag in diplomacy to defuse fears of a covert Iranian bid to develop nuclear bombs.

The nub of the dispute was not immediately clear as the high-stakes talks went into a second day in the Iraqi capital Baghdad.

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Iran rejects West's proposal on nuclear curbs

Saeed Jalili demands overhaul to West's plan which one diplomat says falls short of compromise

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A war is coming.
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World powers want to talk nuclear, Iran wants to talk Syria

After a night of ‘difficult’ discussions, talks resume on Thursday morning with a focus on deciding where and when the next round will take place.

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Iran rejects West's proposal on nuclear curbs

BAGHDAD (AP) — Iranian negotiators on Thursday rejected proposals by six world powers to curb Tehran's nuclear program, and demanded answers to their own counteroffer meant to alleviate concerns about the Islamic Republic's ability to build atomic weapons.

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A war is coming.
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no mincing words there
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ISRAEL’S STRATEGIC ANALYST: ATTACK IRAN, PROPOSE MIDEAST PEACE DEAL

“I’m an elitist. Eighty percent of the critical decisions affecting Israel are shaped by maybe 100 or 200 people, 300. These are my clients. –Prof. Yehezkel Dror

Israel’s premier strategic analyst, Yehezkel Dror, has produced a new study for the Begin-Sadat Center which advocates a military attack on Iran accompanied by an Israeli proposal for a comprehensive peace deal.

Essentially, this paper is a blueprint for Bibi Netanyahu in his march toward war.

It outlines the major issues he faces in persuading the Israeli public and world opinion that his decision is just.

It warns him of the pitfalls that naysayers will suggest and offers him arguments against the nabobs of negativism.

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A war is coming.
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no mincing words there
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I think we're passed the mincing words part Swin. We are passed this just being the usual bluster, we're on another level now and things can really start to happen soon. I hope I'm wrong, but if this continues as is I don't see any other course
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Baghdad nuclear talks break up without accord
The gap between the two sides proved unbridgeable. Two news conferences representing both sides are awaited shortly

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Baghdad nuclear talks break up without accord
The gap between the two sides proved unbridgeable. Two news conferences representing both sides are awaited shortly

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.....
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I have long expected the war to start in June. The next few days MSM will show us if it will be starting or not.
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A war is coming.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


no mincing words there
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I think we're passed the mincing words part Swin. We are passed this just being the usual bluster, we're on another level now and things can really start to happen soon. I hope I'm wrong, but if this continues as is I don't see any other course
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you may be on to something
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5+1 group fails to reach agreement on Iran’s proposals

BAGHDAD, May 24 (MNA) -- The six major powers known as the 5+1 group (the five permanent members of the UN Security Council plus Germany) failed to reach an agreement between themselves on a package of proposals which had been presented by Iran in the meeting on Wednesday.

Sources close to the meeting have blamed the U.S. for the failure of talks between the major powers, the Mehr News Agency correspondent reported from Baghdad.

Iran had presented a five-point proposal which included “nuclear and non-nuclear issues”.

Diplomats close to the talks say the major powers have reneged on their promises of reciprocal steps which had been agreed upon in the Istanbul talks on April 4.

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EU's Catherine Ashton press conference on Iran starting soon.

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EU's Catherine Ashton press conference on Iran starting soon.
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any idea what she may say?
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EU's Catherine Ashton press conference on Iran starting soon.
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any idea what she may say?
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let's have more meetings ? peace

hello godzilla hf
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Are we trying to appease Iran? Didn't we do that with Nazi? Look what happened...
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EU's Catherine Ashton press conference on Iran starting soon.
 Quoting: CXTGLP


any idea what she may say?
 Quoting: godzilla85


let's have more meetings ? peace

hello godzilla hf
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heya CXT. Probably they'll wanna have more meetings...a few parties aren't interested in talking anymore it seems
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Look,

The ONLY reason to use the fuel cycle that Iran is using IS TO BUILD NUCLEAR WEAPONS. Period. There are much more efficient ways of generating nuclear power that don't take you into the "nuclear bomb" enrichment cycle.

Iran can deny it all they like, their nuclear program has a single goal: BUILD NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

They could EASILY have been something ground breaking like Thorium, which would have been safer and more efficient AND non-threatening to their neighbors.

If it's electrical power they're after they could have agreed to numerous offers that have been on the table for decades to eliminate the dangerous parts of their fuel cycle.

If Iran had picked Thorium, there was a very good chance that the U.S. would have pitched in and helped them move forward. They could have set themselves up to become a provider of electrical power throughout the Middle East.

Can you imagine the influence they would have wielded simply by making everyone around them dependent on a vast reserve of power?

Instead they choose to fund Hezbollah and Hamas. They choose to work though vile regimes like Syria. They choose the "dirty" nuclear option so they can produce nuclear weapons they can never safely use.

If they think they will survive an exchange of nukes with Israel they are sadly mistaken. They can't use nukes offensively because the response will be too much to bear..Iran would simple cease to exist.

So why bother...there's a better solution if they would engage their brains. They have a peaceful, "soft", path to power and influence in their grasp if they choose to use it.

The answer is that they DO NOT WANT PEACE. THEY REALLY ARE SEEKING TO BRING ABOUT THE RETURN OF THE MAHADI.
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June will be an interesting month for sure.
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Look,

The ONLY reason to use the fuel cycle that Iran is using IS TO BUILD NUCLEAR WEAPONS. Period. There are much more efficient ways of generating nuclear power that don't take you into the "nuclear bomb" enrichment cycle.

Iran can deny it all they like, their nuclear program has a single goal: BUILD NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

They could EASILY have been something ground breaking like Thorium, which would have been safer and more efficient AND non-threatening to their neighbors.

If it's electrical power they're after they could have agreed to numerous offers that have been on the table for decades to eliminate the dangerous parts of their fuel cycle.

If Iran had picked Thorium, there was a very good chance that the U.S. would have pitched in and helped them move forward. They could have set themselves up to become a provider of electrical power throughout the Middle East.

Can you imagine the influence they would have wielded simply by making everyone around them dependent on a vast reserve of power?

Instead they choose to fund Hezbollah and Hamas. They choose to work though vile regimes like Syria. They choose the "dirty" nuclear option so they can produce nuclear weapons they can never safely use.

If they think they will survive an exchange of nukes with Israel they are sadly mistaken. They can't use nukes offensively because the response will be too much to bear..Iran would simple cease to exist.

So why bother...there's a better solution if they would engage their brains. They have a peaceful, "soft", path to power and influence in their grasp if they choose to use it.

The answer is that they DO NOT WANT PEACE. THEY REALLY ARE SEEKING TO BRING ABOUT THE RETURN OF THE MAHADI.
 Quoting: Fingulas



^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^


AND THIS:



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Look,

The ONLY reason to use the fuel cycle that Iran is using IS TO BUILD NUCLEAR WEAPONS. Period. There are much more efficient ways of generating nuclear power that don't take you into the "nuclear bomb" enrichment cycle.

Iran can deny it all they like, their nuclear program has a single goal: BUILD NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

They could EASILY have been something ground breaking like Thorium, which would have been safer and more efficient AND non-threatening to their neighbors.

If it's electrical power they're after they could have agreed to numerous offers that have been on the table for decades to eliminate the dangerous parts of their fuel cycle.

If Iran had picked Thorium, there was a very good chance that the U.S. would have pitched in and helped them move forward. They could have set themselves up to become a provider of electrical power throughout the Middle East.

Can you imagine the influence they would have wielded simply by making everyone around them dependent on a vast reserve of power?

Instead they choose to fund Hezbollah and Hamas. They choose to work though vile regimes like Syria. They choose the "dirty" nuclear option so they can produce nuclear weapons they can never safely use.

If they think they will survive an exchange of nukes with Israel they are sadly mistaken. They can't use nukes offensively because the response will be too much to bear..Iran would simple cease to exist.

So why bother...there's a better solution if they would engage their brains. They have a peaceful, "soft", path to power and influence in their grasp if they choose to use it.

The answer is that they DO NOT WANT PEACE. THEY REALLY ARE SEEKING TO BRING ABOUT THE RETURN OF THE MAHADI.
 Quoting: Fingulas


I agree.
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Does ANYBODY in this thread even KNOW what they are trying to get Iran to agree on??????? I bet my ass not. I'm going to make a thread about this, it should be shown how ridiculous and unfair this whole scharade is becoming. It's quite clear, Iran will always be the looser and Israel is HELL BENT on a war, frothing at their mouths to attack as Tel Aviv saw violent protests last night, that's a great distraction once again.
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Look,

The ONLY reason to use the fuel cycle that Iran is using IS TO BUILD NUCLEAR WEAPONS. Period. There are much more efficient ways of generating nuclear power that don't take you into the "nuclear bomb" enrichment cycle.

Iran can deny it all they like, their nuclear program has a single goal: BUILD NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

They could EASILY have been something ground breaking like Thorium, which would have been safer and more efficient AND non-threatening to their neighbors.

If it's electrical power they're after they could have agreed to numerous offers that have been on the table for decades to eliminate the dangerous parts of their fuel cycle.

If Iran had picked Thorium, there was a very good chance that the U.S. would have pitched in and helped them move forward. They could have set themselves up to become a provider of electrical power throughout the Middle East.

Can you imagine the influence they would have wielded simply by making everyone around them dependent on a vast reserve of power?

Instead they choose to fund Hezbollah and Hamas. They choose to work though vile regimes like Syria. They choose the "dirty" nuclear option so they can produce nuclear weapons they can never safely use.

If they think they will survive an exchange of nukes with Israel they are sadly mistaken. They can't use nukes offensively because the response will be too much to bear..Iran would simple cease to exist.

So why bother...there's a better solution if they would engage their brains. They have a peaceful, "soft", path to power and influence in their grasp if they choose to use it.

The answer is that they DO NOT WANT PEACE. THEY REALLY ARE SEEKING TO BRING ABOUT THE RETURN OF THE MAHADI.
 Quoting: Fingulas


I agree.
 Quoting: MIL MAN


putin
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Look,

The ONLY reason to use the fuel cycle that Iran is using IS TO BUILD NUCLEAR WEAPONS. Period. There are much more efficient ways of generating nuclear power that don't take you into the "nuclear bomb" enrichment cycle.

Iran can deny it all they like, their nuclear program has a single goal: BUILD NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

 Quoting: Fingulas


well...

seems like they need them, thanks to all the warmongering by israel and US...

they probably should have NATO support to defend themselves; and nato should put sanctions on the US and israel if it were tuly a world representative.

but nato is nothing; its a us controlled (meaning israeli controlled) farce.

fact is, thanks to 9/11, all thesr globalist, elitist institutions have lost tons of credibility, and are collapsing under the exploitation of their own creators!

governmnet, currency, religion, education, main stream media, israel, international authority props like NATO, IMF, etc..

no legitimacy; therefore collapsed authority.

just calling it like i see it.





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