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Commercial Pilot and Aeronautical Engineer Explains Why Official 9/11 Story About Pentagon Is Bogus
Nela Sagadevan sets the record straight about Pentagon crash while 9/11 fringe movement meets Dec. 7 in Tampa for beginning of five-day rally.
6 Dec 2005

By Greg Szymanski

It’s impossible to fit a square peg in a round hole. It’s equally as impossible to fit a large 757 airliner through a small hole like left in the Pentagon wall after 9/11.

And this is just one of the many examples that the official 9/11 story makes no sense. In fact, it makes about as much sense as trying to keep jamming that square peg into that proverbial round hole.

However, while the feds fiddle with pegs that don’t fit, the 9/11 debate rages on across the country, mainly among the fringe truth movement groups whose numbers are small.

And this is precisely where politicians want the debate to remain, away from the public’s ear, since so far they have been dealt a winning 9/11 hand, knowing any serious measure to bring justice has been effectively cut-off.

So this week the fringe 9/11 movement takes its “forces and soldiers of truth” to Tampa and Miami, Florida, staging a five day assembly starting Dec 7 with the intent to spark a larger public debate and bring the “enemy within” to justice.

Millionaire Jimmy Walter is footing the bill and hosting the event with speakers to include Dave von Kleist, Joyce Riley, Morgan Reynolds, Eric Hufschmid, William Rodriguez and others. There is an $11 entry fee and it will be interesting to see the turn-out, including the media coverage which in the past has been sporadic at best for 9/11 truth events.

Although the speakers bring to the table interesting facts discounting the official story, Rodriguez will be the most compelling, telling his tale of hearing explosions in the basement prior to the airplane hitting the North Tower.

But one person in attendance not on the speaker’s list is commercial pilot and aeronautical engineer, Nela Sagedevan. And the reason he should be speaking, at least about the Pentagon crash, is because once he gives his technical rendition of why the government story is bogus, it’s like someone finally held up, for the whole world to see, the round peg fitting perfectly into the round hole.

In the past, many pilots and other experts have tried to communicate the impossibility of the flight pattern taken by an inexperienced Arab terrorist in the cockpit, but none have done a better job than Sagedevan, telling the story from an expert’s pint of view but communicating so the layman has no trouble understanding.

Recently, Sagadevan spent two hours on Greg Szymanski’s radio show, The Investigative Journal, on the Republic Broadcast Network at www.rbnlive.com, leaving the audience nodding their heads in agreement that the Pentagon crash couldn’t have happened the way the government contends.

“Let’s look at it plain and simple,” said Sagadevan in an extended telephone conference this week from his home near San Diego. “The government wants us to believe that a person who couldn’t even solo a small Cessna took over the controls of a Boeing 757 jetliner and performed complicated maneuvers even myself or other experienced pilots could have never performed.

“It’s just not going to happen and, from my point of view, is impossible. If this was fabricated by the government so was the rest of the 9/11 story.”

But staying on point, Sagadevan wanted to further illustrate the absurdity of a small, inexperienced 5’8” Arab terrorist, taking over the controls of the jetliner from a burly, well-trained former military pilot.

“You mean to tell me, the supposed terrorist overpowered the pilot, who weighed more than 185 lbs and trained in the military. And then after that overpowered the co-pilot in the same manner, a person who also weighed upwards of 185 lbs,” said Sagadevan, emphasizing experts aren’t needed to explain the absurdity of this portion of the government story.

“I am not sure if anyone has been in the cockpit of one of one of these big jets, but I will tell you there isn’t much space. How in the world would one man pull out two big pilots in cramped quarters while, at the same time, maintaining control of the airliner. Again, it’s just not going to happen.

“In the beginning right after 9/11, like most people, I believed most of what I heard about 9/11, not really giving much thought to a government conspiracy. However, about a year ago when I began gathering information related to my expertise as an aeronautical engineer and pilot, I began to see clearly how the government story regarding the four flights, their paths and their pilots didn’t make sense.

“Now I am firmly convinced after looking at an enormous amount of evidence, as well as using well-establishing aviation principles, that something else crashed into the Pentagon since it couldn’t have been a commercial jetliner.”

Besides calling attention to the impossibility of a untrained pilot performing complex flight maneuvers and navigation, Sagadevan said the flight path taken near the Pentagon was also impossible for a large jetliner to perform without crashing before reaching the Pentagon.

“First of all, the supposed pilot would have been overwhelmed just looking at the complexity of the cockpit dash board and the computerized controls,” said Sagadevan. “He would have had no idea what to do, but we are led to believe that he was able to turn the jet around, head back to Washington D.C. and then bank at high speeds and at a low altitude, hitting a target which would have looked as small as thimble from the air. Again, it’s impossible and you don’t really need an expert to make this final determination.”

Sagadevan was quick to point out one of the main problems with the government story is the low trajectory of the airplane, flying at high speeds and roughly only 20 feet off the ground for a long distance, another impossibility defying the standard principles of aviation.

“The evidence indicates that the airplane was flying low before it reached the Pentagon lawn since several light poles were sheared off several hundred yards away form the building,” explained Sagadevan. “With that in mind, the plane was traveling at about 400 knots at about 20 feet off the ground for a long distance prior to hitting the Pentagon.

“This in itself is an impossibility in itself since the airplane would have been forced to the ground well before hitting the Pentagon. No pilot in the world would have been able to control the plane while maintained that air speed at 20 feet off the ground for that long a distance. Again, it’s just impossible but here I will admit that an expert is needed in order to explain the standards of lift and drag associated with flying a large airliner.”

From the beginning of the supposed hijacking of Flight 93 and to its eventual crash into the Pentagon wall, Sagadevan presents a compelling case, essentially cruising the official story.

“I really don’t understand how anyone could give the government’s story any credibility after seeing the original pictures taken of the small hole left in the Pentagon wall by whatever flew into it,” said Sagadevan. “I am not totally sure what the military used but one thing for sure, it wasn’t a 757 jetliner.”

Sagadevan is referring to the tiny circumference of the hole left in the Pentagon wall, illustrated on pictures taken right after the crash scene, but immediately taken out of circulation and never widely distributed by the news media to the American people.


“I think if someone just looks at the hole left and then looks at the size of 757, experts aren’t needed to determine it was an impossibility that a big jet hit the Pentagon wall, especially when there was very little wreckage visible after the crash,” added Sagadevan.

Regarding the Pentagon crash, as Sagadevan aptly points out, there are “so many holes in the story” that it becomes, as the English say, rather a laughing matter, making one believe even the bungling Inspector Clouseau, made famous by Peter Sellers, could crack the case wide open if given half a chance.

But the problem is Inspector Clouseau, Sagadevan and every other independent investigator haven’t been given the chance, leaving the case to be investigated and tried in the court of public opinion, a place where politicians like it and know they are safe from prosecution.
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Sorry. Title fix bump.
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Lets try that again.
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Fuck it it´s broken.
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There, fixed it. Geesh.
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Erm, the Pentagon pilot was skilled in commercial aircraft pilotage.

He didn´t have a current licence as he didn´t attend and pass his medical; then didn´t keep up his hours.

The flight pattern was not impossible, it was strange and unusual for a commercial flight.

The hole was more than big enough for the aircraft..

The damage was MORE consistant with a heavy airliner than a missile or explosive laden drone.

“The government wants us to believe that a person who couldn’t even solo a small Cessna took over the controls of a Boeing 757 jetliner and performed complicated maneuvers even myself or other experienced pilots could have never performed."

Bullshit, pure and simple.

"flying at high speeds and roughly only 20 feet off the ground for a long distance, another impossibility defying the standard principles of aviation."

Gee has anyone told airshow pilots? commercial pilots gliding short? pilots doing go arounds?

I give up.

You´ll believe what ignorant websites post, while accusing me of being a sheep for towing the Gov´ line.

Who cares
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Erm, the Pentagon pilot was skilled in commercial aircraft pilotage.<<<<<<<

Ahem, I´ll be needin a linkie for that one pal. IIRC all´s they had was simulator training.


The hole was more than big enough for the aircraft..<<<

Says who, you??? Subject to debate.

“The government wants us to believe that a person who couldn’t even solo a small Cessna took over the controls of a Boeing 757 jetliner and performed complicated maneuvers even myself or other experienced pilots could have never performed."<<<<<

Bullshit, pure and simple.<<<<

Linkie for that pearl of objective wisdom????

"flying at high speeds and roughly only 20 feet off the ground for a long distance, another impossibility defying the standard principles of aviation."<<<<<

Gee has anyone told airshow pilots? commercial pilots gliding short? pilots doing go arounds?<<<<

At 400 knots???? Ever hear of ground effect smart guy??????

But here is the doozy. It´s well known that the high level brass is at the center ring of the pentagon. Seems if I wanted to cause the most damage to the US I would crash dead center and kill all the brass, not CONVENIENTLY HIT THE ONLY SECTION OF THE PENTAGON THAT WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

Debunk that smart guy.
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No. Do some REAL research.

Stop parroting shit from other sites.

Your only interest is in proving the conspiracy, not finding the truth........otherwise you´d know this already.
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"At 400 knots???? Ever hear of ground effect smart guy??????"

Yes. Did YOU know how hard it is to CLIMB OUT of ground effect at those speeds?

See my above post.
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"But here is the doozy. It´s well known that the high level brass is at the center ring of the pentagon. Seems if I wanted to cause the most damage to the US I would crash dead center and kill all the brass, not CONVENIENTLY HIT THE ONLY SECTION OF THE PENTAGON THAT WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION."

Yes, he could have dived right into that beautiful garden in the middle and killed a few trees.

The construction was FINNISHED, only snagging remained.

But. Put yourself in the terrorists position, they saw all this work going on earlier when they scoped the place and assumed it would be a softer target. NO, it was in fact a harder target. Any way it is begging the question. Not real debate.
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Your only interest is in proving the conspiracy, not finding the truth........otherwise you´d know this already.<<<<


Bwhahahaha...thats funny. I have spent a very considerable sum of money and time researching this issue, including reading the US government tall tale called the 911 commission report.

Tell ya what . Let´s settle this amicably. Lets just go ahead and have the US government release the rather ample stack of videotapes they have of the event which were confiscated from several sites around the pentagon, and submit such material for public review. What say you smart guy?????

What are they hiding? Hmmmmmmm?????

Better yet, go ahead and explain how you get a commercial airliner all the way on the inside to crash into the frickin headquarters of the most powerful military nation on earth, through some of the most heavily defended airspace on the planet?????


Well smart guy?????
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Tell ya what. Why don´t YOU tell me which cams those would be?

More to the point WHY they would be showing FMV of the track of an unexpected aircraft?
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Tell ya what. Why don´t YOU tell me which cams those would be?<<<<

For starters the ones at the gas station nearby that were confiscated within minutes of the event by the FBI.

And I seriously disagree with your rebuttal of why not crash the plane center pentagon. These alleged *terrorists*, if they exist, were not stupid. It was well known in the public domain the US had aspirations to go into Iraq again for several geostrategic reasons. The point is to KILL SMART GUYS that are fixin to make war on you, not simply wipe out part of a building to make a statement. You go for the jugular, these guys should have went for the center ring by all rational argument.
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Is anyone else getting tired of this 911 thing? We have moved on a great deal since that incident. We have long reached the "so what" stage. We know the:-

**official reports are bogus, but so what and what are you going to do about it.

**Twin towers were pulled, but so what and what are you going to do about it.

**There were no WMDs in IRAQ, but so what and what are you going to do about it.

**David Kelly (and the others) were eliminated, but so what and what are you going to do about it.

**They have been using DU and white phosporous against civilians in Iraq, but so what and what are you going to do about it.

.....and many, many more.

The outrageous actions of TPTB are now so "in your face", they do not care anymore because they know the sheople have been adequately anaesthetised. There actually is very little need for caution in the approach, they can now do what they hell they want and get away with it.
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Yup! Time to [link to reopen911.org]
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It´s standard procedure the world over to grab video from any source near a crime.

Now why would a gas station cam NOT be showing the station forecourt. It´s there for the gas station NOT the pentagon.

How many cams were on the face of the pentagon that was hit? How many were looking at entrances and public thoroughfares.

Remember the Petagon is really a glorified admin building, don´t get wrapped up in the false idea that this is the most important most secure building in the mil´ it ain´t.

Members of the public were allowed in. It´s security was layered.

Enough.

You don´t know anything, just what you read on some BS websites. You´ve spent money? LMAO.
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What was hauled off under the tarp, 1025? Why would anything be secreted away from the site?
Why don´t they just release some videos and settle the whole damn thing?
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Once again the arguments for the massive conspiracy are:

There´s no way I think that big plane would make a smaller hole.

I think this and I don´t believe that.

There´s no way those guys coulda done it.

There´s no way I woulda done it like that.

The big foundation for Nela´s arguement " I believe it would have made a bigger hole " If someone took a brand new plane and crashed it into a full scale rebuild of the structure and it came up with the same results would you believe it then? odds are no, it would be another setup to fool us all, or some other trickery.

Face it this is what you want to believe and you have to want to because the facts and evidence do not support it. Go check out that princeton FEA of the Pentagon crash, it shows it well, just what happened, but I´m sure that´s bogus too.

Here´s another good article that pretty much takes things one at a time and some pretty decent research and people were used to produce it, although I´m sure it was all paid for by the Illuminatti, maybe it´s worth reading anyway.

>>>To investigate 16 of the most prevalent claims made by conspiracy theorists, POPULAR MECHANICS assembled a team of nine researchers and reporters who, together with PM editors, consulted more than 70 professionals in fields that form the core content of this magazine, including aviation, engineering and the military.<<<<

[link to www.popularmechanics.com]


Ask yourself this: Say you believe the whole thing was a setup. It was pulled off by who? Ok whoever, the Cheney-Bush super planning team, the "CBSPT" Now how many people need to be on the CBSPT to get the job done, remember it´s a whole lot more of a complicated job to do whatever it is that you might believe other than 19 Arabs with knives and mace and planes that already exist and are pretty much all ready to go waiting at the airports. Plus you have the extra work of creating all the faked history which everybody knows really does exist.

So you have to assume that the CBSPT was in existance for a long time prior to GW being elected since all the Hijackers were actualy living and taking simulator time and all that we actualy know actulay did happen in the several years prior. I guess that a rather large part of the plan was that GW would have to be assured of winning the Presidency or all the work the CBSPT was doing in the years prior would be for naught, or maybe all the history was just faked as well and all those flight instuctors and everbody else that had any contact with the 19 are plants and all of that never happened, might be easier that way.

Either way it´s starting to sound like the CBSPT was around for a long time and has some skills that would make those pussies at the NSA or CIA look like girl scouts. Ok, so either way the CBSPT are some very busy dudes with I guess access to, well, everything, and even though GW and all his evil doer pals like rummy and the rest haven´t been elected yet don´t let that get in your way.

So how many people you think we got in the CBSPT just to pull off the history arm of the Op? Let´s say 4, they just have to work real hard and fast, and well, since none of the tons of historical evidence has ever been disputed and there´s years worth in several countries, those guys are good.

Ok, so now the CBSPT has to move to planning and logistics. Guess you gotta figure that most of the planning was done already as far as what the plan would be, Whoa, hang on, has the Taliban been on schedule in Afghanistan? that´s a critical aspect of the plan, the scapegoat you know, well yes they have been, good boys. You can check out the timeline of the Taliban in Afgh. here. [link to www.un.org.pk] and you can see they were on schedule pretty well.

Since most of the faked planted planning began in enrnest around 98 let´s say the CBSPT probably had most of their diabolical planning work completed around, what 6 months before? remember these guys are way fast and way good at it, how many planners and plotters might the CBSPT have? Well aparently it´s a whole Cabal involving GB senior and a whole bunch of other evil do´ers and tons of connections, access to everything, and nobody has ever leaked a thing, could be a lot of dudes since a whole lot of evil do´ers would be in the running for the big bucks that the whole plot is supposed to be purposed for, so I guess it would be hard to say how many, logicaly more than a few though.

Well, anyway it´s about 98 and the evil plan is all cooked up and the faker history is moving forward and the faker hijackers are on the scene and the Taliban is on schedule and things are looking good and GW is only two years away from the rigged election, that is a must have, so I guess the CBSPT goes on cruise control until the election is over. Don´t let the fact that GW hasn´t won the party nom or is even running yet get in the way of things or that Cheney isn´t his running mate yet, minor details like that are mere childsplay for the CBSPT.

Ok, so the election is a done deal, a little hiccup there, but no biggie and GW is in the House just as planned and things are just moving right along and the CBSPT gets the green light to move to the next phase of the op that was reliant on actualy having all the players in their spots. So, only about 9, I´ll give ya 10 months to execute the rest of the plan, piece o´ cheese for the CBSPT.

All they have to do is rig up the four planes for remote control, no biggie, plant all the explosives in the WTC for the controlled demo, piece of cake, keep the faker Hijackers on shedule and all of those other minor details that just fell into place so well, like the airlines etc. all magnificantly executing their parts in the CBSPT´s grand plan, that how many people planned and plotted? Don´t really know do we, probably quite a few since it is a fairly complicated deal, fairly.

So what have you got? Roughly 4 years of planning and plotting and however many conspirators and nobody spilled the beans and the whole thing got pulled off right in front of everybody´s eyes and pretty much came off without a hitch and nobody knows about it except all the conspiracy believers. I´d say that is pretty fucking plausible don´t you? Well you must, because you are believing it right?

Either that or a couple of dozen suicidal Arabs with a big bankroll planned and Hijacked four planes by slashing throats and surprising and terrorizing the passengers and crews and took over the unlocked flight decks and shortly later crashed them into our buildings. Nahh, that´s waaaay too simple, and boring too.

Not like the Arabs have a history of attacking us or anything. Not like they have ever blown us up or attacked us before. I´d just go with that first diabolical plan because it makes way more sense, right? and people have made money off the war so that proves it.

Take a little cruise down thought road and ask yourself what it would take to pull of this massive conspiracy and keep the whole thing under wraps and don´t forget to take your fucking brain this time.

Don´t use terms like " That looks like " or " I think that " or " There´s no way that could happen " fucking show me something. I have years of verifiable history as motovation, tons of hard evidence as to who was where and that they actualy existed, and tons more real evidence to support my boring Arab theory, what you got? and try and go with one plot and not muddy up your plan by mixing Scalar beams and Holoplanes wrapped around cruise missiles with the remote controlled ones, it´ll just make you look dumb. Have at it.
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Omega

don´t waste time with 1025

he is my long-time stalker john mullet

check out my recent threads and you will see the lunatic in action

he is certifiable, and completely clueless
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Yes, everything that the government has told us about 9/11 is the absolute truth and the million or so holes in the combined story are just figments of our imagination.

And they have been so forthcoming with open information backed by proof. The investigation totally open to the public that we missed shows that they are good hearted people who have only the best interests of the People in mind.

Welcome to Oz.

Your lies are insulting.
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Is anyone else getting tired of this 911 thing? We have moved on a great deal since that incident. We have long reached the "so what" stage. We know the:-

**official reports are bogus, but so what and what are you going to do about it.

**Twin towers were pulled, but so what and what are you going to do about it.

**There were no WMDs in IRAQ, but so what and what are you going to do about it.

**David Kelly (and the others) were eliminated, but so what and what are you going to do about it.

**They have been using DU and white phosporous against civilians in Iraq, but so what and what are you going to do about it.

.....and many, many more.

The outrageous actions of TPTB are now so "in your face", they do not care anymore because they know the sheople have been adequately anaesthetised. There actually is very little need for caution in the approach, they can now do what they hell they want and get away with it."

Excellent. Very apt summary. Many, many more indeed. People are returning home to New Orleans after 3 months and finding their missing loved ones still laying dead in their houses, while at the same time, Congress makes known their prioroty is more "tax cuts!".

Support the troops!

I myself would already be at war, but I have no inclination to sacrifice myself for a people that wouldn´t give a damn, nor would they be mobilized to do anything. Not anaesthetised, but part of the problem.
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the parking lots around the pentagon are clues to where the top brass worked
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So, show me some of those million holes, I´ll address em, as best I can. Try and make sure they aren´t part of the 16 big ones that the PM article with all thier experts didn´t close up and that they don´t include a whole lot of "I thinks in there" The whole report is availible on PDF, even though I´m sure it´s 99% lies you might be able to find one shread of truth in there. [link to www.gpoaccess.gov]

I guess the entire Gov´t is on board with the lies and suddenly became really good at keeping secrets in Washington and all the Dems are down with the Reps on this one, makes sense.
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#3608 does not understand "The Game" at all.
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Re: Commercial Pilot and Aeronautical Engineer Explains Why Official 9/11
Explain it then.
Dr P

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12/06/2005 12:51 PM
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AC 13548, you´re quite correct that no one who matters gives a hoot what you and a handful of other nut cases think about anything. But your delusions are good for laughs!
Sophia

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12/06/2005 12:59 PM
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I have wondered why there wa sno amateur footgae. I assume the Pentagon, like the whitehouse is a tourist attraction, that is, that people go past or whatever to see it...and that usually means someone has a camera handy.
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12/06/2005 01:00 PM
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i suppose the Pentagon eyewitnesses are shills?
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12/06/2005 01:06 PM
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This is a sincere warning to anyone involved in covering up this hienous crime:

You might stand trial, because it´s a crime to do so, a very serious crime .
Sophia

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12/06/2005 01:06 PM
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I DO recall on 12 sept when we were hearing of the attacks that the first report I heard claimed a truck had exploded beside the Pentagon. I also saw a CNN or other major network reporter standing in front of the Pentagon telling a stroy which didn´t mention a plane.
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12/06/2005 01:09 PM
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"I guess the entire Gov´t is on board with the lies and suddenly became really good at keeping secrets in Washington and all the Dems are down with the Reps on this one, makes sense."

seriously what planet are you from?

not just republicans, but both left and right wing (which they have created to give americans "choices", oh boy choices are something americans really like)

anyway if CIA and FBI are on this, then hell there is noway anyone can get anything from govt.

and yes they did take the camera from gasstation (plues many others from differnt locations) which was pointing towards pentagon. they even said that on the news (fbi took footage of the incident immidiately, for "investigation") trust me i live northernva, 10 miles from dc, and we were the ones to get the news first.





GLP