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Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah

 
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Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah
Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

Folks I was for Ron Paul as much as anyone but the reality is God is sovereignly ordaining the tribe of Judah in the leadership mandate.

Is the rulership overturning? President Obama has this bloodline through his mother but apparently not his father (unless I can be proven otherwise)

Has the lineage been corrupted, inbred, etc? Likely yes. Still God's word will not return void, and he will use all the secret society cronies and thugs to accomplish his purpose and will.... even fraudulent voting machines.

This is a separate confirming link already posted:

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God's purpose was to have on of his own to rule over the Israelites. With the Assyrian captivity of the "lost" 10 tribes and the Babylonian captivity of Judah the throne of David was not lost.... merely transferred to the British isles.... Ireland, Scotland and England.
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Re: Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah
It is critical in understanding prophecy to note that God has unique prophecies to the House of Israel (10 tribes) and the House of Judah (tribe of Judah, Benjamin (who Jesus Christ revealed himself to) and the Levitical priesthood.... the tribe of Levi.

To lump all 12 tribes into the term "jewish people" is to miss the larger prophetic picture.bumpbump
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Did the prophet Jeremiah (a Chief of Iber) die in Ireland?

Did he travel there in 583-560 BC from Egypt around the same time of the destruction of Jerusalem, with: the scribe Baruch, Ebed-Melech, Tea Tephi (daughter of Zedekiah & heir to the throne-line of Pharez), and the son of the king of Ireland who had been in Jerusalem at the time of the siege? Did Jeremiah come to Ireland to build the nation Israel in the Isles of the West and to plant the royal line of David upon Israels throne in the person of Zedekiahs daughter, Tea Tephi? Tea Tephi is the name of the most celebrated queen in early Irish history. With her the lion came into Irish heraldry, an emblem of the Israelites, but especially of the tribe of Judah. With Tea Tephi also a most remarkable 400 pound stone came to Ireland called the Lia Fail, or stone wonderful, or Stone of Scone upon which the Irish line of kings were crowned until about 500 A.D. Thereafter it was carried to Scotland and used as coronation stone there till 1296 A.D. Then Edward I carried it to Westminster Abbey where it has been ever since, until just recently when it was returned to Scotland, as the Coronation Stone of Great Britain.

Tea Tephi married the Irish monarch, Eiochaid, the Heremonn, thus joining the Pharez and Zarah branches of Judahs royal line, and from them through the Irish and Scotch line of kings one can trace the descent to George VI and show that Davids line did not lapse for Yahweh keep His covenant of salt. (2 Chronicles 13:5)

Was Jeremiah the elderly white-haired patriarch, sometimes referred to as a "saint," who came ashore in Ulster in Irish tradition? Wasn't Jeremiah the grandfather of King Zedekiah (last king of Judah); and thus, God's Trustee of the Bloodline and the Throne of David? From these sources we learn that about 565 B.C., soon after Jeremiah and the kings daughters disappeared in eastern history, there appeared in Ireland at Tara, the seat of the Irish kings, a remarkable and mysterious personage, a prophet named Ollam Fola, who instituted a school of prophets in Ireland. From the number of Hebrew words connected with this mysterious personage he is shown to have been a Hebrew prophet. The only Hebrew prophet who disappeared with any such mission as would take him to the Isles of the West, was Jeremiah, whose bust is in Dublin Castle. The name of Jeremiah remains everywhere in those parts even today.

Could a female further the bloodline?

Did Jeremiah bring the ancient Jewish coronation stone to Ireland (was the throne then overturned 3 times, and now is in London?)?

Was it moved three times (finally to England) in fulfillment of Ezekiel's prophecy mentioned in chapter 21, verses 25-27? Did St. Andrew journey to Scotland? Is Israel today Ephraim? Is Britain and the United States Manasseh?

Legend says Ireland was already populated by Hebrews before Jeremiah's arrival. Long prior to 700 B.C. another strong colony called "Tuatha de Danaan" (tribe of Dan) arrived in ships, drove out other tribes, and settled there. Later, in the days of David, a colony of the line of Zarah arrived in Ireland from the Near East. In light of this, imagine how fruitful the Irish potato famine has proven to be.... Or, is all the above a fabrication started via a book ("England the Remnant of Judah." London, 1861) by British-Israel expositor named Rev. F.R.A. Glover who combined two different people Tea and Tephi from two different time periods? Is the Worldwide Church of God behind furthering this confusion? Or, is it all true??

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The Book of Tephi, Queen of Tara and Gibraltar
Teia Tephi was the daughter (Tender Twig) of the king of Jerusalem (the Cedar) whom Jeremiah went forth to PLANT in Ireland after the ROOTING-OUT and DESTRUCTION of Zedekiah, the king of Jerusalem in c. 588 B.C.

The Book of Tephi describes in detail the journey Jeremiah took with Teia Tephi, The Lia Fail (Stone of Destiny) and The Ark of The Covenant from Jerusalem to Ireland, via Tanis in Egypt (as in "Raiders of The Lost Ark") then on to Gibraltar (where she was proclaimed queen of the Gadite Israelites who live there); Breogan in Spain; Cornwall and eventually landing at Howth, near Dublin, in Ireland on the 18th. of June 583 B.C.

The Book then goes on to describe many of the significant events which occurred at that time in history and are associated with her journey from Jerusalem to Ireland. It is also full of Prophecies about many of the major events which have occurred in the world between her and our time (2,500 years); including the First-Coming of Christ and the colonizing of the world by the British Empire. The Book also gives some very significant prophecies about the times we now live in.

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The Father made a promise to King David that His throne would be established forever.

I have heard that Queen Elizabeth II has her heart's desire set to return the sceptre to the hands of the beloved Christ in person! That is awesome!!!!
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I would humbly suggest that due to the fact the royal blood lineage does not appear to come through the father of Obama but through his mother's line that we are at a time of overturning in leadership where God is preparing to do something new.

I see this presidency as a "book end" of sorts... a completeion of fulfillment.... the 42nd man to occupy the white house.... now we are preparing to cross the Jordan.bump
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Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

Folks I was for Ron Paul as much as anyone but the reality is God is sovereignly ordaining the tribe of Judah in the leadership mandate.

Is the rulership overturning? President Obama has this bloodline through his mother but apparently not his father (unless I can be proven otherwise)

Has the lineage been corrupted, inbred, etc? Likely yes. Still God's word will not return void, and he will use all the secret society cronies and thugs to accomplish his purpose and will.... even fraudulent voting machines.

This is a separate confirming link already posted:

Thread: All U.S. presidents related to European royalty and each other!
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Sorry friend ....but it's all just typically man made hierarchal delusional crap really.
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Re: Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah
Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

Folks I was for Ron Paul as much as anyone but the reality is God is sovereignly ordaining the tribe of Judah in the leadership mandate.

Is the rulership overturning? President Obama has this bloodline through his mother but apparently not his father (unless I can be proven otherwise)

Has the lineage been corrupted, inbred, etc? Likely yes. Still God's word will not return void, and he will use all the secret society cronies and thugs to accomplish his purpose and will.... even fraudulent voting machines.

This is a separate confirming link already posted:

Thread: All U.S. presidents related to European royalty and each other!
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If you were a Christian, you would know that prophecy was fulfilled in Christ Jesus.
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Re: Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah
Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

Folks I was for Ron Paul as much as anyone but the reality is God is sovereignly ordaining the tribe of Judah in the leadership mandate.

Is the rulership overturning? President Obama has this bloodline through his mother but apparently not his father (unless I can be proven otherwise)

Has the lineage been corrupted, inbred, etc? Likely yes. Still God's word will not return void, and he will use all the secret society cronies and thugs to accomplish his purpose and will.... even fraudulent voting machines.

This is a separate confirming link already posted:

Thread: All U.S. presidents related to European royalty and each other!
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If you were a Christian, you would know that prophecy was fulfilled in Christ Jesus.
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I am secure in my salvation and the fact that God promised there would never fail to be a leader on the throne of David. "Sola Scriptura"....
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I think what concerns me is how many people on this forum are wrapped up in obsessing who occupies the office of the presidency as opposed to taking dominion of their own body temple and mind and subjecting that to the will of Christ.

We are still waiting for Shiloh as I humbly understand it... the fullness of the Kingdom as spoken of in the prophecy of Genesis 49:10

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BTW... all my one star bandit friends... I am not a fan of Obama or his policies... if that makes you feel any better... I am merely an observationist trying to see the fulfillment of God's plan through history.
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I used to believe in "free will" until I realized that set's me up as God... to believe that I can somehow overcome the PLAN of the heavenly Father and subjugate it to my will.... not so. God is sovereign. He has prophesied in Genesis 49:10 and it is being fulfilled!
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Take the rulership mandate a step further.

Examine all the national blessings and curses spoken of in Deuteronomy 28 and look at the history of America over the past 200 years and the downward spiral of the last 65 years (curses and judgements) spoken of in the law for disobedience to the covenant.

The Presidents and leaders have a divine opportunity to say Amen and agree with God's will or promote immoral laws and the nation may suffer the consequences as well.
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I would be interested to hear discussion on Genesis 3:15 and the seedline of Cain and it's effect on the course of governments with the rise of the beast from the sea (perhaps democracy and banking system rising up out of the people (sea))

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Yes Lev 26 and Deut. 28 as concerning the blessings and curses of Father God to Israel )Ephraim and Mannesseh). They do indeed apply to America and Great Britain. The curses portion is rapidly gaining downhill momentum.
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Yes Lev 26 and Deut. 28 as concerning the blessings and curses of Father God to Israel )Ephraim and Mannesseh). They do indeed apply to America and Great Britain. The curses portion is rapidly gaining downhill momentum.
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We can only pray God spares the remnant as he has always done throughout history to restart society and the millenial kingdom after the judgements fall.
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I used to believe in "free will" until I realized that set's me up as God... to believe that I can somehow overcome the PLAN of the heavenly Father and subjugate it to my will.... not so. God is sovereign. He has prophesied in Genesis 49:10 and it is being fulfilled!
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I used to believe in "free will" until I realized that set's me up as God... to believe that I can somehow overcome the PLAN of the heavenly Father and subjugate it to my will.... not so. God is sovereign. He has prophesied in Genesis 49:10 and it is being fulfilled!
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There are two types of people in the Bible free will and God's elect. Jeremiah was one of God's elect.
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Deu 23:2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
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Matthew 24:21-22 is rapidly approaching and The Lord will come back just in time to see some "flesh be saved" and that for "the elects (chosen) sake those days shall be shortened...". The Millenial Kingdom will exceed all of mankinds wildest dreams (peace on earth et al). Then after the 1000 yrs. eternal life in The God Family. The first resurrection is indeed the one to be in.
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Here is the real verse for you OP since the KJV and all english translations are based on the corrupted masoretic texts.

49:10 A ruler shall not fail from Juda, nor a prince from his loins, until there come the things stored up for him; and he is the expectation of nations.

And here is the KJV matched verse for verse with the real scripture, the same that jesus used, called the septuagint.

[link to ecmarsh.com]

And here is an explanation as to how and why the masotetic text was corrupted.

[link to www.biblebelievers.org.au]

BTW good job on trying to bring the truth of who israel is to the lunkheaded christians. Must be about as tough a job as can be.
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Re: Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah
Here is the real verse for you OP since the KJV and all english translations are based on the corrupted masoretic texts.

49:10 A ruler shall not fail from Juda, nor a prince from his loins, until there come the things stored up for him; and he is the expectation of nations.

And here is the KJV matched verse for verse with the real scripture, the same that jesus used, called the septuagint.

[link to ecmarsh.com]

And here is an explanation as to how and why the masotetic text was corrupted.
[link to www.biblebelievers.org.au]

BTW good job on trying to bring the truth of who israel is to the lunkheaded christians. Must be about as tough a job as can be.
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Sorry that should read - And here is why the masoretic text is corrupt.
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Re: Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah
Here is the real verse for you OP since the KJV and all english translations are based on the corrupted masoretic texts.

49:10 A ruler shall not fail from Juda, nor a prince from his loins, until there come the things stored up for him; and he is the expectation of nations.

And here is the KJV matched verse for verse with the real scripture, the same that jesus used, called the septuagint.

[link to ecmarsh.com]

And here is an explanation as to how and why the masotetic text was corrupted.

[link to www.biblebelievers.org.au]

BTW good job on trying to bring the truth of who israel is to the lunkheaded christians. Must be about as tough a job as can be.
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Thank you my brother or sister in Christ. Blindness has happened in part but the veil is being lifted rapidly now. I humbly believe it is time for this truth to go forth and love my kindred brothers and sisters more than ever in the times ahead.bumpbump
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Re: Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah
Mark 11:20 discusses where Jesus curses the fig tree. Symbolically the nation of Judah was represented by FIGS.

The ten tribes are represented by OLIVES.

Suffice it to say Christ says he will give the rulership to a nation bringing forth the fruits.

The stone of scone (destiny) and monarchs had already been transfered to Ireland.

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The cursed fig tree represented traditions without fruit. The leaves were the traditions.


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Re: Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah
Matthew 24:21-22 is rapidly approaching and The Lord will come back just in time to see some "flesh be saved" and that for "the elects (chosen) sake those days shall be shortened...". The Millenial Kingdom will exceed all of mankinds wildest dreams (peace on earth et al). Then after the 1000 yrs. eternal life in The God Family. The first resurrection is indeed the one to be in.
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It is a high calling to attain to the first resurrection... the Barley Harvest. I definitely have had to forgive many that I might be forgiven.

The wheat harvest and grape harvests will also be brought in. Christ will put all things under his feet (like the grapes) in the rulership and headship position to give them up to the Father.
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Re: Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah
Realizing God is sovereign give one the peace of knowing that even though His will might be ignored or dishonored his plan is going forth.

Romans 8:28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.

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Now ask yourself.... is Christ capable of forgiving even Judas? As He was dying on the cross praying "Father forgive them for they know not what they do"

Thats the kind of God I will bow for!
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Re: Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah
Realizing God is sovereign give one the peace of knowing that even though His will might be ignored or dishonored his plan is going forth.

Romans 8:28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.

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Now ask yourself.... is Christ capable of forgiving even Judas? As He was dying on the cross praying "Father forgive them for they know not what they do"

Thats the kind of God I will bow for!
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1:3 and hated Esau and laid waste his borders, and made his heritage as dwellings of the wilderness?

1:4 Because one will say, Idumea has been overthrown, but let us return and rebuild the desolate places; thus saith the Lord Almighty, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall be called The borders o wickedness, and, The people against whom the Lord has set himself for ever.

Explain for ever.
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Re: Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah
And christ was asking god to forgive the israelites who betrayed him not the edomites such as judas.





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