no time to write it properly: MARKET CARSH NEXT SUNDAY NIGHT OR TOTAL MASSIVE RALLY GLOBAL CENTRAL BANKs money printing coming? check here!

?market manipulation?

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

I agree , market manipulation was my first thought, and the saying never waste a good crisis.
I think they are gonna see if they can fuck everyone on a global scale as opposed to a single nation at a time.

CARSH. IMMINENT.
Possibly tomorrow.

APRIL TO NOW:

JP MORGAN -25%

MS > TOTALLY CARSHED !

back to 2008 levels


CARSH IS HERE if you want to !



WHAT IS YOUR GUESS?

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money printing > too!

The Bank of England will launch two new stimulus packages in response to the worsening economic outlook, governor Sir Mervyn King has said.
[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

EURO WILL COLLAPSE THIS WEEKEND!!!Just wait after Greeks elections...

[link to www.stevequayle.com]

Bring the financial DOOM!...It´s about time!



Last Edited by Orvontonian on 06/14/2012 11:14 PM

My guess?

Carsh isn't a word. I get that you didn't have time to "write it properly", but you didn't have time 3 times?

Fox Business is a scam, trying to compete with the equally corrupt Bloomberg and CNBC corporate hos.

And of course, Central Banks are printing money. That is what the Helicopter crowd does when they can't find another bubble to fake-inflate to milk the last of the rubes into the markets.

Why Joint Central Bank Action Is Unlikely and Won’t Work

[link to www.cnbc.com]

THAT´S THE SPIRIT of GLP

Carsh is GLP spelling for crash. Bring it on.

Yeah, euro is up vs US dollar. Everything is up vs US dollar right now. That's why the stock market, which is normally inverse to the dollar, shot up 200 pts today. Euro may be in trouble, but look out US dollar!

that´s right. is GLP language

Why Joint Central Bank Action Is Unlikely and Won’t Work
[link to www.cnbc.com]

I think the timing of this is indeed worrisome, and perhaps precautionary for this weekend? not sure I am clued up enough to comment, but you know how gut feelings are..

gut feelings, uncle rumors and dreams are allowed

Carsh is a GLP term, you Moran.

It may not be next week, or even the week after, but I think the global economy is at stall speed, and there is nothing anyone can do to stop it

John Hussman wrote a couple of weeks back that QE3, even if done, will have little impact

Seriously, can the Fed, with a straight face, argue that long term rates aren't low enough with the yield on the 10 year somewhere around 1.5%?

If four years of low rates, increasingly affordable housing and dropping fuel prices hasn't been sufficiently stimulative, what on earth can do the trick?

Did you read his latest piece?

He pretty much sums it up, imo:

The Heart of the Matter

...To a large extent, this downturn is a "boomerang" from the credit crisis we experienced several years ago. The chain of events is as follows:

Financial deregulation and monetary negligence -> Housing bubble -> Credit crisis marked by failure to restructure bad debt -> Global recession -> Government deficits in U.S. and globally -> Conflict between single currency and disparate fiscal policies in Europe -> Austerity -> European recession and credit strains -> Global recession.

In effect, we're going into another recession because we never effectively addressed the problems that produced the first one, leaving us unusually vulnerable to aftershocks. Our economic malaise is the result of a whole chain of bad decisions that have distorted the financial markets in ways that make recurring crisis inevitable.

[link to www.hussman.net]

The problem is that there are so many problems, and almost no one is looking at the actual bigger picture

To sum it up, the problem is massive global debt on a national, municipal and personal level

Only the pets are debt free

The global economy is collectively about to run out of room on it's remaining credit card, and it is spending 300% more than it makes

From the outside, like many supposedly rich families I know, all looks great. The McMansion looks well tended, the leased cars indicate prosperity, the clothes all have designer labels

However, at the end of every month there is a negative balance, and all that is needed is one or two months without income to set the wheels in motion which will bring an end to the charade

A very good analyst I heard said the next black swan will come from the emerging markets, and I agree with this 100%

Here is his presentation, if you're interetsed: [link to vimeo.com]

I disagree. It is a very stupid claim. If they print money like crazy qe3 , the impact is guaranteed. Size matters

ok i was a little rude. I believe the impact of a QE3 will change the markets, but may not CHANGE the path to global recession.

Now if anti bailout parties do NOT win is suddenly the bad outcome, because there will be no intervention.

Banks didn't lend on the last bailout. This money just goes to cover bank debts.

No-one sees any of it, it simply disappears.

Once the dip wads get through printing all thier billions of dollars and once again bail out the bankster crooks...

It is we "the people" that will have to swallow this cost for the helicopter ride...


Watch for the amazing shrinking packages of food..and for prices to go sky high...if you starve the masses you will have better control over them

numbed down sheeple will head for the government utter and then be forced to work the meaningless jobs for no pay..they will be lined up like sheep for the slaughter and not realize they will be doomed to a life of misery

all to line the pockets of a few...

let the games begin...I for one will not fall for their evil schemes and am at the ready with my full armour of God

not true it pays for the country to keep ticking over,dustbin men,teachers,road repairs ects

the money stops the country falls apart

They may pop the markets for anywhere from 3-6 months, but ultimately, I believe the end result will be the same

I had just written on the thread about the Dutch bank downgrades, that China cannot afford more stimulus, and really, the Chinese stimulus would be the only one which matters as it would stimulate the important emerging markets down stream.

In my opinion, anyway, there will be NO QE3 of any size, and ultimately markets will - and MUST unwind (whether it is a sudden crash or slow speed meltdown, the end result will be the same)

If you recall, in March 2009 when the global credit markets were about to collapse, there was that massive coordinated central bank action which led to the V-shaped bounce seen on just about every chart

China's massive stimulus led to the building of the infamous ghost cities, ghost malls, kilometers of highways and stockpiling of everything from copper to soybeans and zinc

However that stimulus also has indirectly led to unaffordable housing (in cities like Shanghai, apt prices have been at unsustainable multiples of near 20x wages, compare that to the US where real estate crashed when it hit 6x earnings)

That stimulus has led to wage inflation on a scale which has forced Chinese firms to relocate operations to countries like Vietnam in search of affordable labor

Worst of all, the inflationary impact of stimulus has led to serious food price inflation, something which now threatens social and political stability and is probably the reason for the new super hard line government about to take power in Beijing

Therefore, China cannot afford another round of massive stimulus. It already has over capacity from the last one

Furthermore, they know what the game is about. The Chinese have even come out and said in so many words that they are not going to further inflate their economy just so western traders and hedge funds can drive up the cost of essential commodities even higher.

So we know the Chinese are not going to stimulate the world economy, and frankly even if they did a stimulus, and went back into high gear producing even more useless geegaws and electronics, WHO is going to buy?

The Australians are at 160% debt to income, the Canadians 150%, the Brits 170%, the Danes 300%, the Norwegians and Dutch 250%, the Koreans, even the Malaysians around 180%...and the list goes on

The global consumer is near tapped out, and at this point, most countries struggling with debt issues are looking to increase their own exports, not import more from China

I think the next phase of this crisis is where it gets uglier, if not with outright war, then with trade wars and increasing protectionist barriers.

Globalism in time gives way to nationalism as debt concerns rise and it increasingly becomes every man, every government or at best regional blocs for themselves

This can only end one way in my opinion: with a loud bursting of the global corporate debt bubble, sovereign debt bubble, consumer debt bubble all of which will probably destroy the global credit markets as we know them

What takes its place after that, is anyone's guess. The dust will have to settle first to see what remains

Thats the way I see it, anyway.

Obviously no one has a crystal ball and if if a super genius comes up with a miracle solution which doesn't involve more debt cleverly packaged under yet another 4 letter label, then I will be thrilled at the prospect of relief. But until then, this is what I see...

Last Edited by Baltar on 06/15/2012 08:05 AM