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If we go to war with Iran over the straight, then I am no longer a real American

 
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If we go to war with Iran over the straight, then I am no longer a real American
honestly, if iran closes the straight they will fuck with the world including China and Russia.
but it's funny how the good ol US (including the world) wants to attack Iran for closing the straight while our country has every right to go sanction others. We blockaded Japan ffs and we had every right to do so. Look how angry the Japs got and look how we call it madness when attack on Peral Harbor happened.

If Iran blockades the straight they are doing it because of us, which they only bloc the waters in their national borders. they wouldn't do it on OMAN's waters. however ships cant really go through Oman's waters since it is too shallow for them to pass.
who the fuck is the world to sanction Iran and use its waters to ship oil out. If the world is going to war with Iran for doing what something our country would have done, then i hope Iran totally wins.

they have every right to block that artery.
I swear, if we go attack Iran for what they about to do to us, like what we did to Japan in WW2, and then when we attack their "Pearl Harbor" I guess I shoulnt be calling my self an American anymore, i will lose hope in America, the America that I used to remember.
Because if we ever do that, then everything we have blamed and fought, and died for, will be OVER.
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Re: If we go to war with Iran over the straight, then I am no longer a real American
If Iran blockades the straight they are doing it because of us, which they only bloc the waters in their national borders. they wouldn't do it on OMAN's waters. however ships cant really go through Oman's waters since it is too shallow for them to pass.
who the fuck is the world to sanction Iran and use its waters to ship oil out.
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Thanks for the clarification.

I didn't know that...
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07/03/2012 08:56 AM
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If that is the way you feel then maybe your were never meant to be an American in the first place. Defect to Iran I am sure they would take you and love the great publicity.
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07/03/2012 08:58 AM
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Re: If we go to war with Iran over the straight, then I am no longer a real American
Iran has all the right to close its territorial waters.

Those who are bothered by this, should manage to build smaller oil tankers, that can sail through Oman's shallow waters.
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07/03/2012 08:59 AM
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Re: If we go to war with Iran over the straight, then I am no longer a real American
Iran has the right to close it.

If the USA attacks Iran, it's unjustified aggression.

No matter if the USA wins the war. It will still be an unjustified aggression.

The fact that you win the war doesn't make it a "fair" war. It's still a criminal aggression.
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Re: If we go to war with Iran over the straight, then I am no longer a real American
honestly, if iran closes the straight they will fuck with the world including China and Russia.
but it's funny how the good ol US (including the world) wants to attack Iran for closing the straight while our country has every right to go sanction others. We blockaded Japan ffs and we had every right to do so. Look how angry the Japs got and look how we call it madness when attack on Peral Harbor happened.

If Iran blockades the straight they are doing it because of us, which they only bloc the waters in their national borders. they wouldn't do it on OMAN's waters. however ships cant really go through Oman's waters since it is too shallow for them to pass.
who the fuck is the world to sanction Iran and use its waters to ship oil out. If the world is going to war with Iran for doing what something our country would have done, then i hope Iran totally wins.

they have every right to block that artery.
I swear, if we go attack Iran for what they about to do to us, like what we did to Japan in WW2, and then when we attack their "Pearl Harbor" I guess I shoulnt be calling my self an American anymore, i will lose hope in America, the America that I used to remember.
Because if we ever do that, then everything we have blamed and fought, and died for, will be OVER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19016521




It's not you that is unamerican, it is the ptb running our country and forcing their will on sovereign countries that are to blame. They care not for others or you or me......
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07/03/2012 09:02 AM
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let's all send money to Oman so they can dredge out their waters deep enough to get ships through

PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!
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07/03/2012 09:06 AM
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let's all send money to Oman so they can dredge out their waters deep enough to get ships through

PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!
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Very pragmatic...
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07/03/2012 09:07 AM
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agent Dubya5 over..I got another FEMA volunteer, over..



Good post OP hf
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07/03/2012 09:14 AM
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Then take your ass to Iran or NK.. and take the rest of the bleeding hearts with you
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07/03/2012 09:18 AM
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Re: If we go to war with Iran over the straight, then I am no longer a real American
the powers of this world are like crack heads for oil

When you take away an addicts addiction - they become dangerous, irrational, unpredictable, angry, and make decisions suddenly.

If they think they can get a little more crack, they will do WHATEVER that is to get it


Iran has very right to close the waters.

But they are playing a dangerous game doing so, as the powers of this world will surely keep trying to get the crack through, and if Iran won't let them, they will blast their way through

a war will come of this if Iran does close to Western Powers

The sad thing is, if the world wasn't addicted to oil for rapid economic growth and economic stability, then no one would give two shits about most of the Middle-East and Iran
not to mention that if the powers of the world had not been in the middle east causing trouble of these years, the region might have cooled down and become mostly peaceful, like Europe
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07/03/2012 09:20 AM
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Re: If we go to war with Iran over the straight, then I am no longer a real American
Then take your ass to Iran or NK.. and take the rest of the bleeding hearts with you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 816818


^^^THIS^^^ OP was not an American the moment this thread was created!!
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07/03/2012 09:23 AM
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Re: If we go to war with Iran over the straight, then I am no longer a real American
America is all about invading inocent countries and killing inocent people.

It always was.

So, OP is really un-American...
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07/03/2012 09:23 AM
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We don't even get our oil from there so why should we do anything to keep it flowing for the Eurotrash???


It's the principle of interferring with international waterways and that has never been considered as belonging only to Iran.

Last Edited by Bluebird on 07/03/2012 09:24 AM
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07/03/2012 09:26 AM
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Re: If we go to war with Iran over the straight, then I am no longer a real American
We don't even get our oil from there so why should we do anything to keep it flowing for the Eurotrash???


It's the principle of interferring with international waterways and that has never been considered as belonging only to Iran.
 Quoting: Bluebird


oil is traded on an international scale -- doesn't matter if you get your oil from there or not, the price you pay will increase if hormuz is closed
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07/03/2012 09:27 AM
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Re: If we go to war with Iran over the straight, then I am no longer a real American
America is all about invading inocent countries and killing inocent people.

It always was.

So, OP is really un-American...
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there are no innocent countries
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07/03/2012 09:28 AM
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Then take your ass to Iran or NK.. and take the rest of the bleeding hearts with you
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^^^THIS^^^ OP was not an American the moment this thread was created!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1230093


so unless you agree in advance to anything your government might do anywhere, ever, you're not "an American"?
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07/03/2012 09:32 AM
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Re: If we go to war with Iran over the straight, then I am no longer a real American
America is all about invading inocent countries and killing inocent people.

It always was.

So, OP is really un-American...
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there are no innocent countries
 Quoting: Swinburnian



Yes, there are.

Most of the countries are inocent countries.

A handful of criminal countries, like the USA, love to attack and invade inocent countries.

The USA leads a gang of international criminals.
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07/03/2012 09:32 AM
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Re: If we go to war with Iran over the straight, then I am no longer a real American
um and where the fuck were you when W and Halliburton invaded Iraq?
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Re: If we go to war with Iran over the straight, then I am no longer a real American
America is all about invading inocent countries and killing inocent people.

It always was.

So, OP is really un-American...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19046750


there are no innocent countries
 Quoting: Swinburnian



Yes, there are.

Most of the countries are inocent countries.

A handful of criminal countries, like the USA, love to attack and invade inocent countries.

The USA leads a gang of international criminals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19046750


i stand corrected then. if you could provide me with a list of the criminal countries i'd apreciate it -- i could plan vacations more easily that way. do innocent countries ever become criminal ones, or is this us criminal/most countries innocent arrangement permanent?
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07/03/2012 09:43 AM
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Re: If we go to war with Iran over the straight, then I am no longer a real American
America is all about invading inocent countries and killing inocent people.

It always was.

So, OP is really un-American...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19046750


there are no innocent countries
 Quoting: Swinburnian



Yes, there are.

Most of the countries are inocent countries.

A handful of criminal countries, like the USA, love to attack and invade inocent countries.

The USA leads a gang of international criminals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19046750


i stand corrected then. if you could provide me with a list of the criminal countries i'd apreciate it -- i could plan vacations more easily that way. do innocent countries ever become criminal ones, or is this us criminal/most countries innocent arrangement permanent?
 Quoting: Swinburnian



When did Brazil militarily attacked another country, or plotted to help any act of agression against another country, in the past 100 years?
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Re: If we go to war with Iran over the straight, then I am no longer a real American
honestly, if iran closes the straight they will fuck with the world including China and Russia.
but it's funny how the good ol US (including the world) wants to attack Iran for closing the straight while our country has every right to go sanction others. We blockaded Japan ffs and we had every right to do so. Look how angry the Japs got and look how we call it madness when attack on Peral Harbor happened.

If Iran blockades the straight they are doing it because of us, which they only bloc the waters in their national borders. they wouldn't do it on OMAN's waters. however ships cant really go through Oman's waters since it is too shallow for them to pass.
who the fuck is the world to sanction Iran and use its waters to ship oil out. If the world is going to war with Iran for doing what something our country would have done, then i hope Iran totally wins.

they have every right to block that artery.
I swear, if we go attack Iran for what they about to do to us, like what we did to Japan in WW2, and then when we attack their "Pearl Harbor" I guess I shoulnt be calling my self an American anymore, i will lose hope in America, the America that I used to remember.
Because if we ever do that, then everything we have blamed and fought, and died for, will be OVER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19016521


op is enlightened more than most people but never the less war is coming for it is written...

In irans infinite wisdom closing the hormuz is not the correct answer. But it doesn't matter if they do or don't at this point maybe that is the way they are seeing it.
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Re: If we go to war with Iran over the straight, then I am no longer a real American
Then take your ass to Iran or NK.. and take the rest of the bleeding hearts with you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 816818


^^^THIS^^^ OP was not an American the moment this thread was created!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1230093


so unless you agree in advance to anything your government might do anywhere, ever, you're not "an American"?
 Quoting: Swinburnian


I wouldn't say anywhere or ever, but I know that if the strait is closed and America does nothing....the bitching about "why didn't America do anything" will be never ending.

I know my country does not always make the right decisions, and I know we have done "wrongs" in the past....but dammit, I feel as an American, I expect my country to TRY to do the right thing.....and keeping Iran in check, is the right thing IMHO. I feel deep down, that the world would never forgive us if we don't.
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since we're over there with sanctions and gun boats, they have every right to sneak a cargo ship in off of our shore and launch an EMP weapon.....
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America is all about invading inocent countries and killing inocent people.

It always was.

So, OP is really un-American...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19046750


there are no innocent countries
 Quoting: Swinburnian



Yes, there are.

Most of the countries are inocent countries.

A handful of criminal countries, like the USA, love to attack and invade inocent countries.

The USA leads a gang of international criminals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19046750


and NOTHING brazil can do about it so how bout just STFU...
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This person has a valid point....the united states is the worlds biggest bully....I don't consider myself an amerikan any longer...its too embarrassing.
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This person has a valid point....the united states is the worlds biggest bully....I don't consider myself an amerikan any longer...its too embarrassing.
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Leave then, and renounce your citizenship at the door.
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Re: If we go to war with Iran over the straight, then I am no longer a real American
honestly, if iran closes the straight they will fuck with the world including China and Russia.
but it's funny how the good ol US (including the world) wants to attack Iran for closing the straight while our country has every right to go sanction others. We blockaded Japan ffs and we had every right to do so. Look how angry the Japs got and look how we call it madness when attack on Peral Harbor happened.

If Iran blockades the straight they are doing it because of us, which they only bloc the waters in their national borders. they wouldn't do it on OMAN's waters. however ships cant really go through Oman's waters since it is too shallow for them to pass.
who the fuck is the world to sanction Iran and use its waters to ship oil out. If the world is going to war with Iran for doing what something our country would have done, then i hope Iran totally wins.

they have every right to block that artery.
I swear, if we go attack Iran for what they about to do to us, like what we did to Japan in WW2, and then when we attack their "Pearl Harbor" I guess I shoulnt be calling my self an American anymore, i will lose hope in America, the America that I used to remember.
Because if we ever do that, then everything we have blamed and fought, and died for, will be OVER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19016521




It's not you that is unamerican, it is the ptb running our country and forcing their will on sovereign countries that are to blame. They care not for others or you or me......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18916942


Exactly damned right!

It's the people who day in and day out try to force us into a war to justify their salary ties that are the enemies of the USA and freedom.
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Re: If we go to war with Iran over the straight, then I am no longer a real American
WOW bump I didn't know they were going to block their own borders not the whole straight. I doubled checked and saw that you were right
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