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Bee Farmer's Hives Stolen in Illegal Raid by the IDofAG for PROVING that Monsanto's Roundup Kills Bee Colonies!

 
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We are too quick to blame the corporations that make these poisons, I blame the people that buy them if we all stopped buying this shit they'd go bust pretty quickly.
This is why capitalism is flawed we will always have these conflicts while capitalism exists.
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Exactly, Nine's.

But the problem is, Monsanto is so deeply in bed with .gov that any threat to Monsanto has become "National Security Threat"!

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Sam Skinner. With Monsanto's Legal Team. Also with Department of Justice.

William Conlon. With Monsanto's Legal Team. Also with Department of Justice.

Robert Fraley. Executive Vice President and Chief Technology Officer of Monsanto. Also serves as advisor in public agencies, including the USDA.

Michael A. Friedman. Senior Vice President for Clinical Affairs at G.D. Searle and Co, who merged with Monsanto. Also Acting Commissioner of the FDA.

Arthur Hull Hayes. Consultant to Searles, merged with Monsanto, Public Relation Firm. Also was previously FDA Commissioner.

Rob Horsch. Vice President of Product and Technology Cooperation at Monsanto. Also Advisor to the National Science Foundation and the Dept. of Energy.

Michael Kantor. Board of Directors of Monsanto, also represented Monsanto as a lawyer. Also U.S. Secretary of Commerce.

Donald Rumsfeld. Previous CEO of Searle sho merged with Monsanto. Succssfully had asparatame legalized. Also appointed to Secretary of Defense in 1975 and 2000.

Suzanne Sechen. Worked on Monsanto funded rBGH in her graduate work at Cornell University. Also FDA Reviewer on Scientific Data.

Michael Taylor. Former attorney for Monsanto, previous head of Monsanto Washington D.C. office. Also Former FDA Deputy Commission for Policy. Appointed by the FDA as senior advisor to hte FDA Commissioner.

Clarence Thomaas. Former Monsanto lawyer. Also appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court in 1991.

Anne Veneman. Served on Board of Directors of a Monsanto Biotech subsidiary, Calgene. Also appointed head of USDA in 2001.

Seth Waxman. Hired to prosecute two farmers who fought against Monsanto's seed policies. Also former U.S. Solicitor General.

Toby Moffett. Monsanto Consultant. Also a U.S. Congressman.

Dennis DeConcini. Monsanto Legal Counsel. Also a U.S. Senator.

Hilary Clinton. Rose Law Firm, Monsanto Counsel. Also U.S. Senator.
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This^^^^^ would be a preponderance of evidence.
PROOF that the system of control is so far gone there is really only one remedy. Complete disconnect. Pull the plug.
OFF THE GRID- is a state of mind.
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We are too quick to blame the corporations that make these poisons, I blame the people that buy them if we all stopped buying this shit they'd go bust pretty quickly.
This is why capitalism is flawed we will always have these conflicts while capitalism exists.
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You would have to convince the farmers. The 1-2% of the population in the U.S feeding the other 98% are the ones buying the BULK of this product. Their plants are GM to be "round-up ready" so they can spray the living shit out of their crops with it, kill the weeds but their plants don't die. Since GMO plants are known by Nature to be incomplete, if the plants are not sprayed with roundup, they will be entirely consumed by insects, the insects are merely doing their job in the natural order of things. Convince the farmers to pursue permaculture with NATURAL seeds and plants or convince all of THE PEOPLE to grow their own food forest, then you might be able to shut down the agri-chemical companies, until then, we're fucked.....
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We are too quick to blame the corporations that make these poisons, I blame the people that buy them if we all stopped buying this shit they'd go bust pretty quickly.
This is why capitalism is flawed we will always have these conflicts while capitalism exists.
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It would be nice if that were true, but for numerous reasons, it's not that easy. They've had their game planned and bases covered for many years.

Many people aren't informed and aware. Anyone attempting to make others aware are walking a thin, dangerous line that has to be carefully tread.

Reporters have been fired, TV stations threatened, lives ruined, and people tempted by money, bought off. The partial list of connections to powerful players is shown above.

Monsanto gave 658,207 to federal candidates in the 2010 election cycle. They spent 6,560,000 for lobbying. 1,030,000 was for outside lobbying. The remainder went to in-house lobbyists.

They wanted to corner the food market and they have. They have written and sponsored "food safety" bills which critcs say impose industrial, anti-farming standards" to independent farms and subject those who do not use chemicals and fertilizers to severe penalties.

The Food Safety Modernization Action of 2009, was introduced by Rosa DeLauro. Her husband, Stanley Greenburg, works for Monsanto. This is the bill that wants to criminalize seed banking, confiscation and fines for farmers, and GPS tracking of animals, along with warrantless searches.

70 percent of our food is GMO brought by Monsanto. Monsanto campaigns to undermine organic agriculture and promotes article that state, among other things, "'According to recent data compiled by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC), people who eat organic and natural foods are eight times as likely as the rest of the population to be attacked by a deadly new strain of E. coli bacteria (0157:H7)'.

The article distorted a study from the Journal of Food Protection that showed that organic food does not contain more pathogens than conventionally grown. In fact, Robert Tauxe, M.D., chief of the food borne and diarrheal diseases branch of the CDC, there is no such data on organic food production in existence at their centers and the claims are "absolutely not true."


In an article published by New York Times on Oct. 25th, 1998, called "Playing God in the Garden," Philip Angell, Monsanto's director of corporate communications, said, "Monsanto should not have to vouchsafe the safey of biotech food. Our interest is in selling as much of it as possible. Assuring its safety is the F.D.A.'s job".

FDA's statement of policy on GMO foods, according to the Federal Register, Vol. 57, No 104 (1992) p. 229. is that "Ultimately, it is the food producer who is responsible for assuring safety".
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Roundup is nasty stuff, but Monsanto is a monster
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We are too quick to blame the corporations that make these poisons, I blame the people that buy them if we all stopped buying this shit they'd go bust pretty quickly.
This is why capitalism is flawed we will always have these conflicts while capitalism exists.
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What you're proposing is the ultimate goal, but I'm afraid the damage has already been perpetrated on the public and the environment, so this is flawed.

If you adverstise through trusted channels that you're good for what they need, they're going to buy you. All the negative information was not always wide spread about Monsanto as it has been in these last few years, but even still, there are many people that have never even heard of Monsanto!
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[link to articles.mercola.com]



An Illinois beekeeper whose bee hives were stolen and allegedly destroyed by the Illinois Department of Agriculture has stirred up a hornet's nest with his questions on why the state did this, and most importantly, what they did with his bees.

The state claims the bees were destroyed because they were infected with a disease called foulbrood.

But when the 58-year apiary keeper had his hearing—three weeks after the removal of his bees without his knowledge—the state's "evidence" had disappeared, leaving more questions than answers about the raid on the beekeeper's hives.

Some people, including the beekeeper, Terrence Ingram, suspect the raid has more to do with Ingram's 15 years of research on Monsanto's Roundup and his documented evidence that Roundup kills bees, than it does about any concerns about his hives.

Interestingly, the state's theft targeted the queen bee and hive he'd been using to conduct the research.



Much more at the link.
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It's been said that Humanity and especially nearly ALL life on Earth will start to ceasing to exist in about 5 or 6 years after the bees fully disappear or go extinct themselves. Looks as if the NWO, Freemasons, and the Illuminati are working their fuckin' asses off non stop just to fuck everyone else over. They got their Doomsday Vault up and running so they can actually go off and fuck us all over in whatever manner they want and they'll be livin' the high life while we're the ones that's gonna suffer to near unfathomable measures. Jee thanks Luciferians for these near immeasurably horrible experiences to befall us all! Ugh!
Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker.

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There add hundreds of beekeepers in Illinois..

There's the illinois state beekeepers association founded in 1891.

There's 120 years of beekeeping history in Illinois
[link to www.ilsba.com]

This has nothing to do monsanto,it's this old school beekeeper
Who won't follow the laws.
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We are too quick to blame the corporations that make these poisons, I blame the people that buy them if we all stopped buying this shit they'd go bust pretty quickly.
This is why capitalism is flawed we will always have these conflicts while capitalism exists.
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clappa
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You two don't understand the simple fact WHY these farmers buy these shitty ass GMOs and whatnot fake ass shit. It's because of the U.S. Federal, State, and local Laws. Though the State and local Laws vary obviously. I have an Ag neighbor. He's told me REALLY bad stories about how his fellow farmer, rancher, and himself are all getting totally fucked over because of these goddamn insane laws. More and more taxes are being placed upon them all for going for more natural practices while the GMO shit is being available for more and more cheaper and whatnot seeming goodness.

So for you two, I'd suggest you actually at least take a look at the problem before bitchin' at the farmers and ranchers. It's not THEIR faults at all. It's because of the Laws and other stupid associated bullshit. In fact, with your uninformed opinions about this topic it's obvious to me that you don't know just how extremely important the farmers at least are to ALL societies. For without the farmers who will feed our children and us? It sure as hell won't be your neighbor who's growing their own foodstuffs. Eventually their goodwill will start to die down or cease.
Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker.

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This was on GLP before. Proven to be bullshit. Look it up.
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You are lying.

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We are too quick to blame the corporations that make these poisons, I blame the people that buy them if we all stopped buying this shit they'd go bust pretty quickly.
This is why capitalism is flawed we will always have these conflicts while capitalism exists.
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Agreed. We all have a choice.
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Mansoto and its cronies need to be dealt with.
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We muzt drag zem trough there own ztreet
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Are they not worried about their kids and their kids kids this is a joke.

It is almost like they know the whole fucking planet is fucked so they are raping it and its inhabitants during it's death throws... Fuckers.
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The same thing happened to my uncle in Michigan with his bees
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We are too quick to blame the corporations that make these poisons, I blame the people that buy them if we all stopped buying this shit they'd go bust pretty quickly.
This is why capitalism is flawed we will always have these conflicts while capitalism exists.
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Agreed. We all have a choice.
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"The genie is already out of the bottle," said Neil E. Harl, a professor of agriculture and economics at Iowa State University, speaking of genetically modified organisms, or G.M.O.'s. "If the policy tomorrow was that we were going to eradicate G.M.O.'s, this would be a very long process. It would take years if not decades to do that." ................

Even organic crops labeled "G.M. Free" are testing positive for genetic modification.

[link to ipm.osu.edu]



"Once released into the environment, unlike a BSE epidemic or chemical spill, genetic mistakes cannot be contained, recalled or cleaned up, but will be passed on to all future generations indefinitely".
Dr Michael Antoniou, senior lecturer in molecular pathology from London, biotechnology advisor to the farming and food industries, and chief biotechnology advisor to the Natural Law Party
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This is part of the biblical curse remember?

They are fulfilling it.

Trying to induce a chain reaction.

Be aware.
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"I'm not a religious person, but I think there's something just inherently wrong with this-that they can take different species and combine 'em the way they wanna combine 'em" - Phil Geertson, who runs a small seed business in Idaho
[link to www.organicconsumers.org]
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The same thing happened to my uncle in Michigan with his bees
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Did they take his bees?
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You two don't understand the simple fact WHY these farmers buy these shitty ass GMOs and whatnot fake ass shit. It's because of the U.S. Federal, State, and local Laws. Though the State and local Laws vary obviously. I have an Ag neighbor. He's told me REALLY bad stories about how his fellow farmer, rancher, and himself are all getting totally fucked over because of these goddamn insane laws. More and more taxes are being placed upon them all for going for more natural practices while the GMO shit is being available for more and more cheaper and whatnot seeming goodness.

So for you two, I'd suggest you actually at least take a look at the problem before bitchin' at the farmers and ranchers. It's not THEIR faults at all. It's because of the Laws and other stupid associated bullshit. In fact, with your uninformed opinions about this topic it's obvious to me that you don't know just how extremely important the farmers at least are to ALL societies. For without the farmers who will feed our children and us? It sure as hell won't be your neighbor who's growing their own foodstuffs. Eventually their goodwill will start to die down or cease.
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"They molest people," he said. "They're brutes."

Stokes call Monsanto the "world's most hated corporation," claiming it has done egregious things in foreign countries. "They have a pretty sordid history," he said.

[link to www.organicconsumers.org]
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Blamed for Bee Collapse, Monsanto Buys Leading Bee Research Firm

Owning a major organization that focuses heavily on the bee collapse and is recognized by the USDA for their mission statement of “restoring bee health and protecting the future of insect pollination” could be very advantageous for Monsanto.

Read more: [link to naturalsociety.com]
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We are too quick to blame the corporations that make these poisons, I blame the people that buy them if we all stopped buying this shit they'd go bust pretty quickly.
This is why capitalism is flawed we will always have these conflicts while capitalism exists.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1290427


We don't live in a capitalist country. Our country is controlled by special interest lobbying for corporations. The US is a Corpocracy.
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Hide yer wife, hide yer hives!!!
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bump
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Solid find, Sandi.

I can't say this surprised me, though.
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we know who the real terrorists are!bump
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i always thought gov and monsanto where in cahoots and this is proof. as soon as the master bee race is found its destroyed.


as soon as something that can resist the organ and gene destroying food is found its destroyed.
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The same thing happened to my uncle in Michigan with his bees
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Did they take his bees?
 Quoting: Nine's


for no apparent reason at all the gov. came and destroyed his bee hive facility where he made things from beeswax.
Not sure what they did with the bees
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Everyone needs to be partly semi sufficient. I only have a small backyard and utilise every inch if it growing vegetables. I'm a vegan and eat them raw. I don't buy gifts for family and friends. I give them seeds and soil and anything else they need to grow their own. They did resist at first but now I go to friends places and they can't wait to show me how their garden is going. The only way we can turn this around is to forget materialism and go back to nature. I sell nothing. Everyone comes over including my neighbours and pick the veg they want to eat that night.
My grocery bill for three of us is about 50 dollars a week!
It's crazy what we are doing to this planet. Educate people and we can change the world..





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