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Am serving hummingbirds, bees, butterflies, song birds, mallards, wild cats, coons and squirrels.

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i'm reading in other threads about birds dying, and i want to ask GLP'ers to do one tiny thing.

please, it is a simple thing that can help and/or save them.

PUT WATER OUT! please try to put the water in the shade and give it enough space from home that the wild ones feel comfortable.

edit to add butterfly advice at top of thread:

Just finished putting out "banana goop" and made a mud pie.

Re: Banana goop. Don't throw away ripe banana's. Peel them and place them inside a plastic bag. Smash them, but leave a few chunks. Scoop out the banana's and smear them on the trunk of a tree. You will not believe the butterflies, bees and hummingbirds that will flock to this delicious and easily digested "nectar." Sure, the ants will come, but they clean up after the other creatures.

Re: Mud pie. Scoop up a mound of soil and wet it. Spread it out like a pie. Butterflies love a wet mud pie on a hot day. You might want to do this at the far corner of the yard. You can also do it with sand. Just keep it moist, and the little creatures will land and cool "their jets" before take off.

Thanks to everyone who has given them water, food and a safe place to hide from predators.
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thia year we will be doing massive killing of european starlings, by the millions.

so dont worry about your birds there will be plenty of resources to go round for the rest once we have dealt with this pest.
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yeah unfortunately, it is a major problem.

so who is 'we' and how are these massive killings going down...? er?

anyway, right now, the birds and critters do need our help. :)
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European Starlings and Their Control
[link to icwdm.org]

Introduced Species Summary Project European Starling
[link to www.columbia.edu]

Starling Management in Agriculture
[link to www.urbanwildlifesociety.org]

USDA attempts to control European starling population
[link to www.machinefinder.com]
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I live in Arizona and it is hot. We have two large fountains that are running constantly. During the day we refresh the water with cool water and we always have plenty of birds, bees and hummingbirds. We feed the hummingbirds and orioles, wild finches and many others. The last time we had any rain was April and things are extremely dry.
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[link to wtvr.com]

WEATHER: Dangerous heat wave through weekend

Posted on: 6:32 am, July 6, 2012
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Thanks for your thread OP.
I am going to do a few of the ideas and some other posters ideas tomorrow. I was getting so caught up in other stuff that forgot about these animals. Thanks for the info. :)
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THANKS!!!! i've posted a few news comments, and this issue is really bad, so many dogs and cats dying too because they are not getting proper food and water. the el nino thing is coming too, so it's good to get these issues out there and get people thinking NOW. according to el nino forecasts, we should be getting into that between NOW and october.
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YW. Thanks for thinking of the critters. I hate hearing and reading about dogs and cats dying from neglect. In some cases it's probably easy to find some compassion for the owner, but the majority just plain make me mad. Like leaving them in the car "for just a minute" and not worry about them because "the windows were cracked". Sometimes it's hard to know if people are heartless, or ignorant.

Was reading tonight about a woman who ran a rescue operation and she had dead dobermans in cages in her house that had been there for quite a while. There were pictures of some of the survivors and it was hideous. They were walking bones. Bad enough that anyone could allow it to happen, but a rescue? Can you imagine someone having to part with their pet because of the economy, maybe homeless and they couldn't afford to feed it and sent it to rescue hoping it would have better care, then find what happened to them?

Ashamed to admit I haven't kept up on the El Nino forecast. Is the forecast hot and dry? I see you had a farm report thread. Haven't read it yet but am going to. Won't get into it on this thread, but there's a dire situation brewing out there.
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i live on a 60 acre lake here in ft laud and i put a bird feeder up and nothing touched it for a couple months and then this little black bird with red on his wings started coming and then all hell broke loose.

other birds started hanging out and then the muscovie ducks showed up and i had to take it down because they will shit all over the sidewalk and when they eat somewhere, they will never leave.

God Bless you.
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HAHA!!! good story! don't even have words for how awesome that is. :)

well i finally got my smilie uploaded so here's a pic of the june 2012 heat wave records broken:

june2012heat
 Quoting: Anne O'Mally


Sad how the heat and lack of rain is going to affect all the critters, not only now, but this fall and winter when the plants, berries, and nuts they survive on don't produce what they normally would.

Edit to add. 5 stars and karma for you.
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I live in CT, my inground pool is 85 degrees and I have not used solar heaters. The pool is not refreshing, it's too warm...

I have a pond out back that has fish and frogs, and some birds rest there. I make sure there is seed outside for the birds and try to keep fresh water outside for them too. Tomorrow it will be around 100.

Thanks OP, good reminders.
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Yeah, birdbaths and similar vessels are prime habitat that mosquitoes need for breeding also, so you end up helping the poor little bloodsuckers too!
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Not if your lazy ass changes the water daily.
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Yeah, birdbaths and similar vessels are prime habitat that mosquitoes need for breeding also, so you end up helping the poor little bloodsuckers too!
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Not if your lazy ass changes the water daily.
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LOL....lazy, yes. But they can also look at it as helping the nocturnal critters like Bats...........they LOVE mosquitoes.
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Ka-Tet for your thread. Ive got Crows/Hawks/Owls/Bluebirds/Nothern Flickers/Cardinals/Indigo Bunting/Northern Gross Beaks/ American Goldfinch and alot more. Squirrels and Wild Rabbits also.

My Garden Spider didnt come back this year. I keep them all fed, provide nesting boxes and water. Oh yeah, Feed the Humming Birds also with plants and nectar.

Growing Gords this year to provide nesting boxes for the Purple Martins.


I hope everyone takes this serious. I am.
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YW. Thanks for thinking of the critters. I hate hearing and reading about dogs and cats dying from neglect. In some cases it's probably easy to find some compassion for the owner, but the majority just plain make me mad. Like leaving them in the car "for just a minute" and not worry about them because "the windows were cracked". Sometimes it's hard to know if people are heartless, or ignorant.

Was reading tonight about a woman who ran a rescue operation and she had dead dobermans in cages in her house that had been there for quite a while. There were pictures of some of the survivors and it was hideous. They were walking bones. Bad enough that anyone could allow it to happen, but a rescue? Can you imagine someone having to part with their pet because of the economy, maybe homeless and they couldn't afford to feed it and sent it to rescue hoping it would have better care, then find what happened to them?

Ashamed to admit I haven't kept up on the El Nino forecast. Is the forecast hot and dry? I see you had a farm report thread. Haven't read it yet but am going to. Won't get into it on this thread, but there's a dire situation brewing out there.
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[link to www.rescueink-redemption.com]

the show about bad ass bikers rescuing animals. LOVED IT!!! i'll take just one, please. ;)

the farm report thread is really good, a lot of farmers spoke up and all the topics were discussed well. be sure to watch the 'farming and i grow it' video. :P

dire situation: see farm report thread, run the link video (original post) in the background and listen to what the official report said. i'm going to go into that again and see what is up for this week.

i believe people are going to be forced to move north. i am there now but may have to all go further, canada, i don't know. climate change has always put people on the move. that is how tribes appeared all over the world. tandym and others see northward movement, with intuitive insight. i do not see the southern hemisphere being a sustainable place much longer. i am doing what i can to keep up, we're in very intense times and i never would have thought it was going to get THIS bad. and getting worse. not to be a pessimist, but. all forecasts both scientific and intuitive say that NO models of possible futures come out looking good for the earth and humanity.

i also believe that THAT is exactly what the 'dimensional shift, spiritual vibration' hoo ha is really about: re-learning community, re-learning to care for the birds and bees, being able to let go of material possessions and former luxuries...all 'spiritual' attributes. we will be forced to face ourselves, and those who can trust and do what is needed will be the ones who survive. survival will depend on carrying forth with a new consciousness, i do not think that we can solve the problems we are facing and will face with the same solutions; the die-hard team america bug-outs, or the gangs and looters (etc.). these problems have been awaiting a different solution for a very long time, and the point of no return came and went like a meteor in the night.

i do NOT think that this consciousness shift is what most who await it are going to expect. it is going to force the whole new age mindset to truly look at itself, and i will be so glad, because at this point in my life if i hear another platitude i am going to scream. ;)

el nino stuff in this thread and farm report thread.
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Great thread Anne O' Mally!!!!!!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Ka-Tet for your thread. Ive got Crows/Hawks/Owls/Bluebirds/Nothern Flickers/Cardinals/Indigo Bunting/Northern Gross Beaks/ American Goldfinch and alot more. Squirrels and Wild Rabbits also.

My Garden Spider didnt come back this year. I keep them all fed, provide nesting boxes and water. Oh yeah, Feed the Humming Birds also with plants and nectar.

Growing Gords this year to provide nesting boxes for the Purple Martins.


I hope everyone takes this serious. I am.
 Quoting: Phase-Sphere


YES. taking it serious, and it is really great to see so many GLP'ers are too, and doing something about it.

i bet your garden spider got eaten. :( hungry birds out there. kinda sucks you can't, go out and buy replacement nature, huh? yeah people need to take it seriously.
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Ka-Tet for your thread. Ive got Crows/Hawks/Owls/Bluebirds/Nothern Flickers/Cardinals/Indigo Bunting/Northern Gross Beaks/ American Goldfinch and alot more. Squirrels and Wild Rabbits also.

My Garden Spider didnt come back this year. I keep them all fed, provide nesting boxes and water. Oh yeah, Feed the Humming Birds also with plants and nectar.

Growing Gords this year to provide nesting boxes for the Purple Martins.


I hope everyone takes this serious. I am.
 Quoting: Phase-Sphere


YES. taking it serious, and it is really great to see so many GLP'ers are too, and doing something about it.

i bet your garden spider got eaten. :( hungry birds out there. kinda sucks you can't, go out and buy replacement nature, huh? yeah people need to take it seriously.
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Awaken that divine KA!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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Great thread Anne O' Mally!!!!!!
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thanks shadasonic!

just went and gave your thread a bump. ;)

Thread: The vortex of midwest hell heat spawning another outreak!(Covering 12 states)
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Yeah, birdbaths and similar vessels are prime habitat that mosquitoes need for breeding also, so you end up helping the poor little bloodsuckers too!
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Not if your lazy ass changes the water daily.
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LOL....lazy, yes. But they can also look at it as helping the nocturnal critters like Bats...........they LOVE mosquitoes.
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chuckle

hey i meant to ask, how are the skeeters faring in the heat? are there less because less water and everything parched, or are they worse because of stagnation?
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i'm reading in other threads about birds dying, and i want to ask GLP'ers to do one tiny thing.

please, it is a simple thing that can help and/or save them.

PUT WATER OUT! please try to put the water in the shade and give it enough space from home that the wild ones feel comfortable.

edit to add butterfly advice at top of thread:

Just finished putting out "banana goop" and made a mud pie.

Re: Banana goop. Don't throw away ripe banana's. Peel them and place them inside a plastic bag. Smash them, but leave a few chunks. Scoop out the banana's and smear them on the trunk of a tree. You will not believe the butterflies, bees and hummingbirds that will flock to this delicious and easily digested "nectar." Sure, the ants will come, but they clean up after the other creatures.

Re: Mud pie. Scoop up a mound of soil and wet it. Spread it out like a pie. Butterflies love a wet mud pie on a hot day. You might want to do this at the far corner of the yard. You can also do it with sand. Just keep it moist, and the little creatures will land and cool "their jets" before take off.

Thanks to everyone who has given them water, food and a safe place to hide from predators.
 Quoting: AC 1560850

 Quoting: Anne O'Mally


My 4 year old was walking around with a dead frog, obviously totally dried up, and he said "Dad, he's hard as a nut." Thought I was talking to Andy Griffith or something :)
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My 4 year old was walking around with a dead frog, obviously totally dried up, and he said "Dad, he's hard as a nut." Thought I was talking to Andy Griffith or something :)
 Quoting: DisasterInc


AW!!! cute but sad too. :(

are frogs and other amphibians suffering in your area?
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if nature wants to kill them off with all this heat, who are you to stand in the way.
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OP, are you kidding?

Put tap water out? So they can die from what ever is in that stuff?

Put bottled water out? That has been reverse osmosis/steamed/nuked with whatever unnatural machine process?


How about just accept their fate.
We all die.
Rain water is the only water they should be drinking...
and if these animals were smart enough they'd live by a lake, lagoon, the ocean or a waterfall or river..
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well i do have a garden and the squirrels are enjoying the corn. :)
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"The feared El Nino weather phenomenon could strike as early as the third quarter of 2012, raising prospects of wreaking weather havoc from North and South America to Asia, the U.S. Climate Prediction Center (CPC) said on Thursday.

“Overall, the forecaster consensus reflects increased chances for El Nino beginning in July-September 2012,” the agency said in a monthly update."

"Apart from the energy sector, global food production could also suffer massive disruptions from the warming caused by El Nino."

"Further ahead to the end of the year, the pattern could trigger severe winter storms during the northern hemisphere’s winter, particularly in California and other Western U.S. states."

[link to www.insurancejournal.com]
 Quoting: Anne O'Mally

With all the good posts and beautiful pics, and thinking of waiting chores earlier, I missed this. Interesting article. Boy could I veer off topic here. LOL.
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My 4 year old was walking around with a dead frog, obviously totally dried up, and he said "Dad, he's hard as a nut." Thought I was talking to Andy Griffith or something :)
 Quoting: DisasterInc


AW!!! cute but sad too. :(

are frogs and other amphibians suffering in your area?
 Quoting: Anne O'Mally


They gotta be. When it's normal temperatures, I see frogs every day, turtles sometimes, snakes at least weekly (they usually scare the crap out of me as I'm walking through the yard)....can't say I've seen anything in the last month other than what my son found.
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How precious of you OP

I LOVE leaving water out most of the year ...animals have such beautiful energy...Blessingshf
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I tried to dig a hole in the dried up creek so that the deer have something to drink. I never hit water!! I live in northern Illinois and its getting bad here...
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do you have a big bucket or wash basin (that stainless steel one) or something, and place it far enough away from the house they feel safe getting to it?

i am absolutely hoping there are no new fires.
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I once had a dog bowl (larger one) out for my dogs.
Sadly a mother hen and her chicks came to it while I was in the house (I didn't own them) and all her poor chicks drowned in the bowl of water about 7 of them! It was heartbreaking!

I wonder if we should place shallow bowls out or tall water buckets out?
Any suggestions?
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Thanks for this, good idea. Have been seeing a lot of butterflies lately. Banana-goop time!
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My 4 year old was walking around with a dead frog, obviously totally dried up, and he said "Dad, he's hard as a nut." Thought I was talking to Andy Griffith or something :)
 Quoting: DisasterInc


AW!!! cute but sad too. :(

are frogs and other amphibians suffering in your area?
 Quoting: Anne O'Mally


They gotta be. When it's normal temperatures, I see frogs every day, turtles sometimes, snakes at least weekly (they usually scare the crap out of me as I'm walking through the yard)....can't say I've seen anything in the last month other than what my son found.
 Quoting: DisasterInc


hiding

it's bad indeed when you don't see anything. this is why i am planting as much bee and butterfly plants as i can. even where i am, where there is rain and everyone gardens, not seeing many bees.
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I tried to dig a hole in the dried up creek so that the deer have something to drink. I never hit water!! I live in northern Illinois and its getting bad here...
 Quoting: never96


do you have a big bucket or wash basin (that stainless steel one) or something, and place it far enough away from the house they feel safe getting to it?

i am absolutely hoping there are no new fires.
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I once had a dog bowl (larger one) out for my dogs.
Sadly a mother hen and her chicks came to it while I was in the house (I didn't own them) and all her poor chicks drowned in the bowl of water about 7 of them! It was heartbreaking!

I wonder if we should place shallow bowls out or tall water buckets out?
Any suggestions?
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it depends on the animal/bird. birds prefer a shallow basin, think bird bath. animals need more of a trough. however, you bring up a good point, drowning is a problem. i think if each is provided for they can figure it out, at the least you did what you could.
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well i do have a garden and the squirrels are enjoying the corn. :)
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"The feared El Nino weather phenomenon could strike as early as the third quarter of 2012, raising prospects of wreaking weather havoc from North and South America to Asia, the U.S. Climate Prediction Center (CPC) said on Thursday.

“Overall, the forecaster consensus reflects increased chances for El Nino beginning in July-September 2012,” the agency said in a monthly update."

"Apart from the energy sector, global food production could also suffer massive disruptions from the warming caused by El Nino."

"Further ahead to the end of the year, the pattern could trigger severe winter storms during the northern hemisphere’s winter, particularly in California and other Western U.S. states."

[link to www.insurancejournal.com]
 Quoting: Anne O'Mally

With all the good posts and beautiful pics, and thinking of waiting chores earlier, I missed this. Interesting article. Boy could I veer off topic here. LOL.
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YOU! to the farm report! vaminose!

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