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Christians DEEPLY in Denial - JC Could NEVER Be the Messiah: HERE'S WHY

 
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Christians DEEPLY in Denial - JC Could NEVER Be the Messiah: HERE'S WHY
Why Jesus could not be the Messiah of the Old Testament


Christians are fond of claiming that Jesus fulfilled Old Testament messianic prophecies. But as mentioned above in the Fulfilled Prophecies section, the writers of the New Testament books often twisted verses from the Old Testament that had nothing to do with messianic prophecies, to try to make them fit into Jesus’ story. (In my opinion, that was very disrespectful to the Old Testament writers.) It was as though the Gospel advocates of the New Testament were desperate to look for anything in the Old Testament to try to fit their concept of Jesus as the messiah into it. In effect, it was a sort of “forced sequel.” Anyone who merely looks at the alleged Old Testament prophecies can see this. It’s quite obvious.


However, not only does Jesus not fit the messianic prophecies of the Old Testament scriptures, but what most Christians don’t know and are never told, is that Jesus also did not fulfill the actual intended messianic prophecies of the Old Testament and Torah! You see, Old Testament prophesized a messiah (or “moshiach” as modern jewish people like to call it) who would re-establish the national kingdom of Israel as a nation, making it the powerful center of the world. This leader would live and thrive in the world, not die on the cross for our sins. That was never part of the plan! On the other hand, the concept of a messiah as savior and redeemer of the world is a Christian concept. This is explained by a section from a Judaism website:


[link to www.jewfaq.org]

“The word "moshiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "moshiach" will be used throughout this page.”



In that same site, the prophecies about what the “moshiach” will do are explained:



more at link

[link to www.debunkingskeptics.com]


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another oldtestamentTARD

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And here I was thinking you were talking about JC on Coast to Coast. I like that crazy guy.
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You didn't list one single thing that I saw that contradicts Jesus. And yes, his second coming is the fullfillment of many of these prophecies.

And the temple that he will establish, and his dwelling place,...is us. WE are the temple, and when we accept christ into our hearts, he abides in us.
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Zachariah 12:10

"Then I will pour out a spirit of grace and prayer on the family of David and on the people of Jerusalem. They will look on me whom they have pierced and mourn for him as for an only son. They will grieve bitterly for him as for a firstborn son who has died.

Try as you might, you cannot alter the truth that Jesus very much fills the bill as "the one who comes to save". Israel was expecting a conqueror so Jesus did not stand out as what they expected. It was not enough for God to save only His people, all races have a shot to return to the Garden and walk with God again. Israel was blinded in part, as are you, in order that the truth may go around the world. You will see Jesus return, wearing a blood spattered prayer shawl with his piercings fully in view, and you will know.

"The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the Son of David, the Son of Abraham: Abraham begot Isaac, Isaac begot Jacob, and Jacob begot Judah and his brothers. . . And Jacob begot Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus who is called Christ." (Matthew 1:1-2, 16)

"Then he said, 'Hear now, O house of David! Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will you weary my God also? Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.' " (Isaiah 7:13-14)

"Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. And having come in, the angel said to her, 'Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women!' . . . Then the angel said to her, 'Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name Jesus.' " (Luke 1:26-28, 30-31)
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Why Jesus could not be the Messiah of the Old Testament


Christians are fond of claiming that Jesus fulfilled Old Testament messianic prophecies. But as mentioned above in the Fulfilled Prophecies section, the writers of the New Testament books often twisted verses from the Old Testament that had nothing to do with messianic prophecies, to try to make them fit into Jesus’ story. (In my opinion, that was very disrespectful to the Old Testament writers.) It was as though the Gospel advocates of the New Testament were desperate to look for anything in the Old Testament to try to fit their concept of Jesus as the messiah into it. In effect, it was a sort of “forced sequel.” Anyone who merely looks at the alleged Old Testament prophecies can see this. It’s quite obvious.


However, not only does Jesus not fit the messianic prophecies of the Old Testament scriptures, but what most Christians don’t know and are never told, is that Jesus also did not fulfill the actual intended messianic prophecies of the Old Testament and Torah! You see, Old Testament prophesized a messiah (or “moshiach” as modern jewish people like to call it) who would re-establish the national kingdom of Israel as a nation, making it the powerful center of the world. This leader would live and thrive in the world, not die on the cross for our sins. That was never part of the plan! On the other hand, the concept of a messiah as savior and redeemer of the world is a Christian concept. This is explained by a section from a Judaism website:


[link to www.jewfaq.org]


“The word "moshiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "moshiach" will be used throughout this page.”



In that same site, the prophecies about what the “moshiach” will do are explained:

when your "messiah" arrives he will rule over you and demand worship and force "his mark" upon you, but he will be the devil himself incarnate.

more at link

[link to www.debunkingskeptics.com]

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Jesus replied, If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. John 8:54

I have come in my Father's name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. John 5:43


Congrats, you are screwed.

P.S. One is born a son of man but being Jewish one is made by men. Which is better.





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