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LMAO!!!

I think I will just leave that there. I tried doing a "Hell Yeah" smilie, and that "popped" up.
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I was thinking this earlier...


God creates Man

Man creates AI

Man destroys Man

AI creates Man...
 Quoting: Seer777


I was thinking....

Couldn't AI destroy Man?


What if.... we attempted to create AI that was identical to that of humans'?

Is our psychology really that spotless, deep down?
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


When I consider 'AI' I consider immortality.

That which is without end.

The flesh will die and turn to dust as it currently stands.


Perhaps 'consciousness' at some point a million years ago, or a 100 years from now, finds itself still intact and just hanging around, I would figure it would want something to do with its 'time'.

Having 'all knowledge' of humanity within the 'data banks' said AI is able to re-create humanity. Utilizing with whatever tools it has.


Why would AI want to do this?

Companionship.


Or maybe it's bored.

I have considered that is what this video is alluding to...


[link to www.youtube.com]



It is something I have been musing on for some time...

In the age of clones, cyborgs, duplicants and replicants however, wrong.
 Quoting: Obsequious Pachyderm


I see...

Have the androids been dreaming again?




PersistenceofTim
 Quoting: Seer777


Just naval gazing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28923274




Just naval gazing.
 Quoting: Obsequious Pachyderm


No doubt...


For discussion purposes, can you tell me where their sentience comes from?

IOW, does Man attempt to place his 'consciousness' inside of a robotic 'body' in attempts to cheat death, some time in the future?

If yes, can said man/machine forms, having found a form of immortality, live along side our current 3D reality while engaging directly with our 'current' time in attempts of fixing or changing something in our perceived future which had an undesirable outcome?

Thanks.


hf
 Quoting: Seer777

 Quoting: Seer777


conscious ai can only be constructed by conscious something that knows how to construct consciousness
all conscious anything`s are conscious because of the singular effect (consciousness) they are conscious within (dimension/environment)
thus all consciousness is of the same motive as the singular effect (consciousness)
thus all consciousness knows it is caused by the synergy/singular effect of all things that is not it`self
the 2

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So, AI must be biological to an extent.
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the good news is our topics have crossed the bond/boundary of 20th century belief into 21st century discovery thus we are now talking to people whom speak in language we can begin to understand
people whom 20th century believed were people from our future

"With the Special Theory gone, and the universe in communication with its parts effectively in real-time, there can be no time travel as space and time are independent."
 Quoting: observation

[link to www.holoscience.com]

is the sensation tounge
 Quoting: aether


:hellyeah:
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


haha! :D
I couldn't figure out what made you post that as a response to aether, until I saw your next post

gotta love dogs!
and the GLP smileys
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conscious ai can only be constructed by conscious something that knows how to construct consciousness
all conscious anything`s are conscious because of the singular effect (consciousness) they are conscious within (dimension/environment)
thus all consciousness is of the same motive as the singular effect (consciousness)
thus all consciousness knows it is caused by the synergy/singular effect of all things that is not it`self
the 2
 Quoting: aether


knowing what consciousness is is useful and we have 10 years to what officially 4/2023 tounge
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So, AI must be biological to an extent.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


Yes.

Which brings us back to this morning.

Make sense?

Good morning everyone.

I was thinking of something along these lines after I woke this morning.

I noticed Phase-Sphere must have as well.


:OhtheHumanity:
 Quoting: Phase-Sphere

 Quoting: Seer777

Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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LMAO!!!

I think I will just leave that there. I tried doing a "Hell Yeah" smilie, and that "popped" up.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


lmao
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So, AI must be biological to an extent.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


Yes.

Which brings us back to this morning.

Make sense?

Good morning everyone.

I was thinking of something along these lines after I woke this morning.

I noticed Phase-Sphere must have as well.


:OhtheHumanity:
 Quoting: Phase-Sphere

 Quoting: Seer777

 Quoting: Seer777


i think you swallowed a clever pill or 3 this morning lol

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So, AI must be biological to an extent.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


Yes.

Which brings us back to this morning.

Make sense?

Good morning everyone.

I was thinking of something along these lines after I woke this morning.

I noticed Phase-Sphere must have as well.


:OhtheHumanity:
 Quoting: Phase-Sphere

 Quoting: Seer777

 Quoting: Seer777


i think you swallowed a clever pill or 3 this morning
 Quoting: aether


Well...I couldn't make heads nor tails of what you were saying, so I certainly wasn't feeling clever.

tounge

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Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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Just naval gazing.
 Quoting: Obsequious Pachyderm


No doubt...


For discussion purposes, can you tell me where their sentience comes from?

IOW, does Man attempt to place his 'consciousness' inside of a robotic 'body' in attempts to cheat death, some time in the future?

If yes, can said man/machine forms, having found a form of immortality, live along side our current 3D reality while engaging directly with our 'current' time in attempts of fixing or changing something in our perceived future which had an undesirable outcome?

Thanks.


hf
 Quoting: Seer777



No....

Human consciousness is based on the limitations inherent to the brain. The Soul is infinite.

What happens if you force the brain to perceive it has much more energy? No concerns of blood sugar, neurotransmitters, etc.

MDMA (neurotransmitter overdrive) vs electrical stimulation when 'designing superanimals':

Maybe MDMA or electro-cortical stim for the pleasure center.

A reward system.
 Quoting: Obsequious Pachyderm


This one.

Not sure what exactly MDMA might do with that sort of brain.

Maybe it ought to be a target of research... dinosaurs on ecstasy... lolsign

Though I still prefer "Adam" as the moniker for MDMA...
 Quoting: pi



So, are we creatures of Ego, or of Soul?

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Well...I couldn't make heads nor tails of what you were saying, so I certainly wasn't feeling clever.

tounge

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


oh
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So, AI must be biological to an extent.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


Yes.

Which brings us back to this morning.

Make sense?

Good morning everyone.

I was thinking of something along these lines after I woke this morning.

I noticed Phase-Sphere must have as well.


:OhtheHumanity:
 Quoting: Phase-Sphere

 Quoting: Seer777

 Quoting: Seer777


Oh yes, Seer. I have thought about that since before I could remember contact.

One of the best theories I have heard, is that they have the ability to exit their consciousness/spirit from body, and enter consciousness into biological constructs...the Greys.
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LMAO!!!

I think I will just leave that there. I tried doing a "Hell Yeah" smilie, and that "popped" up.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


lmao
 Quoting: aether


lol
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the good news is our topics have crossed the bond/boundary of 20th century belief into 21st century discovery thus we are now talking to people whom speak in language we can begin to understand
people whom 20th century believed were people from our future

"With the Special Theory gone, and the universe in communication with its parts effectively in real-time, there can be no time travel as space and time are independent."
 Quoting: observation

[link to www.holoscience.com]

is the sensation tounge
 Quoting: aether


hellyeah:
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


haha! :D
I couldn't figure out what made you post that as a response to aether, until I saw your next post

gotta love dogs!
and the GLP smileys
 Quoting: Michael_


hi
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i think you swallowed a clever pill or 3 this morning lol
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lmao

Perhaps I should do that....

I have been very disinclined to use stimulants lately.... despite availability.

....
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


I am certainly feeling cloudy this morning.... a total of 5 edits to my above quoted post

tounge

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Just naval gazing.
 Quoting: Obsequious Pachyderm


No doubt...


For discussion purposes, can you tell me where their sentience comes from?

IOW, does Man attempt to place his 'consciousness' inside of a robotic 'body' in attempts to cheat death, some time in the future?

If yes, can said man/machine forms, having found a form of immortality, live along side our current 3D reality while engaging directly with our 'current' time in attempts of fixing or changing something in our perceived future which had an undesirable outcome?

Thanks.


hf
 Quoting: Seer777



No....

Human consciousness is based on the limitations inherent to the brain. The Soul is infinite.


 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


hmm

You think 'Consciousness' is a function of the 'brain'?

Last Edited by Seer777 on 07/19/2013 04:13 PM
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Just naval gazing.
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No doubt...


For discussion purposes, can you tell me where their sentience comes from?

IOW, does Man attempt to place his 'consciousness' inside of a robotic 'body' in attempts to cheat death, some time in the future?

If yes, can said man/machine forms, having found a form of immortality, live along side our current 3D reality while engaging directly with our 'current' time in attempts of fixing or changing something in our perceived future which had an undesirable outcome?

Thanks.


hf
 Quoting: Seer777



No....

Human consciousness is based on the limitations inherent to the brain. The Soul is infinite.


 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


hmm

You think 'Consciousness' is a function of the 'brain'?
 Quoting: Seer777


More like, it works in tandem with it.
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- I was thinking that it was the system of communication that the soul speaks through.... Or the carrier of...
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- I was thinking that it was the system of communication that the soul speaks through.... Or the carrier of...
 Quoting: NicoleI.


It is a bridge of sorts, if I am thinking correctly.

Electricity and Magnetism is the carrier. Light is the bridge. Synapses firing is the bridge that allows a significant portion of consciousness to work through the mind. But, consciousness is still within all things. Certain configurations of matter allow more consciousness through. Increased complexity and how that 'mass' is configured in the material determines how much consciousness can be accessed.
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Just naval gazing.
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No doubt...


For discussion purposes, can you tell me where their sentience comes from?

IOW, does Man attempt to place his 'consciousness' inside of a robotic 'body' in attempts to cheat death, some time in the future?

If yes, can said man/machine forms, having found a form of immortality, live along side our current 3D reality while engaging directly with our 'current' time in attempts of fixing or changing something in our perceived future which had an undesirable outcome?

Thanks.


hf
 Quoting: Seer777



No....

Human consciousness is based on the limitations inherent to the brain. The Soul is infinite.


 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


hmm

You think 'Consciousness' is a function of the 'brain'?
 Quoting: Seer777


....

Can I do otherwise?

If so, can I sustain it?
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Scientists have found a new virus thought to be the biggest ever seen on Earth.

The virus, dubbed Pandoravirus, is one micrometre big - up to ten times the size of other viruses - and only six per cent of its genes resemble anything seen on Earth before.

This has led French researchers to believe the virus may have come from an ancient time or even another planet, such as Mars.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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Thread: Never-before-seen GIANT virus found that's so unusual it may have come from Mars
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- I was thinking that it was the system of communication that the soul speaks through.... Or the carrier of...
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It is a bridge of sorts, if I am thinking correctly.

Electricity and Magnetism is the carrier. Light is the bridge. Synapses firing is the bridge that allows a significant portion of consciousness to work through the mind. But, consciousness is still within all things. Certain configurations of matter allow more consciousness through. Increased complexity and how that 'mass' is configured in the material determines how much consciousness can be accessed.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


Ty and it makes sense that it would be tandem with the brain.
Also makes sense that tampering with such via frequency, intentional or not, would hamper our communication with Source - depending on complexity, doesn't it?
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- I was thinking that it was the system of communication that the soul speaks through.... Or the carrier of...
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It is a bridge of sorts, if I am thinking correctly.

Electricity and Magnetism is the carrier. Light is the bridge. Synapses firing is the bridge that allows a significant portion of consciousness to work through the mind. But, consciousness is still within all things. Certain configurations of matter allow more consciousness through. Increased complexity and how that 'mass' is configured in the material determines how much consciousness can be accessed.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


Ty and it makes sense that it would be tandem with the brain.
Also makes sense that tampering with such via frequency, intentional or not, would hamper our communication with Source - depending on complexity, doesn't it?
 Quoting: NicoleI.


What if there was a way it could be 'heightened'?


....

Has anyone else ever had the distinct feeling of being shot with a frequency of some kind?

I can recall a few times.... it was a very odd, quick experience each time, far removed from normal or even chemically-inducible feelings that I had known previously.

Accompanied by a 'pulse' of memes and emotion....

Though It has been a while since that has happened to me.
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- I was thinking that it was the system of communication that the soul speaks through.... Or the carrier of...
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It is a bridge of sorts, if I am thinking correctly.

Electricity and Magnetism is the carrier. Light is the bridge. Synapses firing is the bridge that allows a significant portion of consciousness to work through the mind. But, consciousness is still within all things. Certain configurations of matter allow more consciousness through. Increased complexity and how that 'mass' is configured in the material determines how much consciousness can be accessed.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


Ty and it makes sense that it would be tandem with the brain.
Also makes sense that tampering with such via frequency, intentional or not, would hamper our communication with Source - depending on complexity, doesn't it?
 Quoting: NicoleI.


Yep. I suspected that it was one of the reasons that Tesla was so good at visualization. He was always good with it, but being around that much electricity all the time probably helped him sustain it and increase it to the point that it became effortless for him to do. Also, he 'built' all his stuff in tune with nature, so the complexity was formed for tuning into that with great efficacy.
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efficacy. Where did that come from? This is one of those times that I do not know the exact meaning of the word, but I KNOW when I look it up it will be absolutely perfect fitting with what I was getting at.
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Scientists have found a new virus thought to be the biggest ever seen on Earth.

The virus, dubbed Pandoravirus, is one micrometre big - up to ten times the size of other viruses - and only six per cent of its genes resemble anything seen on Earth before.

This has led French researchers to believe the virus may have come from an ancient time or even another planet, such as Mars.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
 Quoting: Tess2012

Thread: Never-before-seen GIANT virus found that's so unusual it may have come from Mars
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A lot of 'new' species popping up all over the world.
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efficacy. Where did that come from? This is one of those times that I do not know the exact meaning of the word, but I KNOW when I look it up it will be absolutely perfect fitting with what I was getting at.
 Quoting: Septenary Spirals


It looks right to me

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I was thinking this earlier...


God creates Man

Man creates AI

Man destroys Man

AI creates Man...
 Quoting: Seer777


along the lines of bio electric , when the singular effect notices a singular thing (cell/planet) irreversibly contrary to motivation of singular effect the singular effect prompts the contrary thing (cell/planet) to suicide/terminate

hmm
 Quoting: aether


How about conciousness creates more conciousness to relatively discern itself through mea surements of measurements changing their per spectives to create novelty sheerly through existence.

Awareness is a wholly different kettle of phish.

Awareness solely being shock at that which you have misrepresented until there is no further shock.
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I was thinking this earlier...


God creates Man

Man creates AI

Man destroys Man

AI creates Man...
 Quoting: Seer777


along the lines of bio electric , when the singular effect notices a singular thing (cell/planet) irreversibly contrary to motivation of singular effect the singular effect prompts the contrary thing (cell/planet) to suicide/terminate

hmm
 Quoting: aether


How about conciousness creates more conciousness to relatively discern itself through mea surements of measurements changing their per spectives to create novelty sheerly through existence.

Awareness is a wholly different kettle of phish.

Awareness solely being shock at that which you have misrepresented until there is no further shock.
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I was thinking this earlier...


God creates Man

Man creates AI

Man destroys Man

AI creates Man...
 Quoting: Seer777


along the lines of bio electric , when the singular effect notices a singular thing (cell/planet) irreversibly contrary to motivation of singular effect the singular effect prompts the contrary thing (cell/planet) to suicide/terminate

hmm
 Quoting: aether


How about conciousness creates more conciousness to relatively discern itself through mea surements of measurements changing their per spectives to create novelty sheerly through existence.

Awareness is a wholly different kettle of phish.

Awareness solely being shock at that which you have misrepresented until there is no further shock.





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