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Ice Melts in Greenland July 8-12: 97% IN FOUR DAYS. read it and weep.

 
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thanks for the vid...i am not sure how planet x is a more viable cause than global warming....?
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Planet X is affecting Global Warming by stirring up the Sun which is resulting in ever larger Corona Mass Ejections etc.

If this was just a cyclical thing, I find it hard to believe that the entire sheet would melt in four days which, then, indicates outside influence causing the Warming other then man made causes.
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so, it's not the dark rift we are supposedly entering?
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Nope - a couple of years ago I looked up the Galatic Center and we had supposedly passed it several millions of years ago and wouldn't be due for another 30 million or so and its not NASA's little Interstellar Energy Cloud which is their smoke screen for Planet X.

An interstellar energy clound would not be able to cause the sun (and earth) to go quadpolar but an incoming planetary object with its own magnetic poles would.
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Is it indirectly connected to the drought conditions?

Thread: 61% OF US IN DROUBT: DIRE SITUATION FOR AGRICULTURE
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not seeing the same map i saw before, but a bit of discerning observation can connect a lot of dots here.

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Is it indirectly connected to the drought conditions?

Thread: 61% OF US IN DROUBT: DIRE SITUATION FOR AGRICULTURE
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the connection is the slowing/stopping of the gulf stream due to glacial melt, which in turn effects the jet stream, which (and oh boy) bring me to the ARkstorm warnings from scientists for west coast:

[link to pubs.usgs.gov]

Flooding evacuation could involve 1.5 million residents in the inland region and delta counties. Business interruption costs reach $325 billion in addition to the $400 billion property repair costs, meaning that an ARkStorm could cost on the order of $725 billion, which is nearly 3 times the loss deemed to be realistic by the ShakeOut authors for a severe southern California earthquake, an event with roughly the same annual occurrence probability.

THIS is from the usgs:


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We've screwed up everything. The air we breathe, the land we live on and share with those we've allowed to survive, the water we drink and use to grow our crops, the waters that at one time were clean and healthy for many species of marine life. Oceans, ecosystems, plants, animals. Our children. We've screwed it all up.

Some will skim and either say or think, "it's just polar bears." Sadly, if it were baby seals that could be clubbed to death for money, there might be more reaction.

Read it and weep. Indeed.

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hi nine's...:)

YES. and they attribute the deaths of all the pelicans and 500 penguins in brazil to 'natural causes,' but do not explain what 'naturally caused' it. the consequential sequences.

always with the double speak.
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Hi Anne, yes, I know what you mean. Maybe the death of a mass of humans will also be natural causes.

Thank you for the article, and for caring. I clicked the "suggest pin" on the upper right side of the post and hope others will too. I have some evening chores to do outside, but when done, if the mods haven't pinned it, I think I have enough karma to do it. Will check back.
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wnder what it means?
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Among other things it means that with all that ice gone the earth could be unbalanced speeding up a possible pole shift...
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We've screwed up everything. The air we breathe, the land we live on and share with those we've allowed to survive, the water we drink and use to grow our crops, the waters that at one time were clean and healthy for many species of marine life. Oceans, ecosystems, plants, animals. Our children. We've screwed it all up.

Some will skim and either say or think, "it's just polar bears." Sadly, if it were baby seals that could be clubbed to death for money, there might be more reaction.

Read it and weep. Indeed.


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hi nine's...:)

YES. and they attribute the deaths of all the pelicans and 500 penguins in brazil to 'natural causes,' but do not explain what 'naturally caused' it. the consequential sequences.

always with the double speak.
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Hi Anne, yes, I know what you mean. Maybe the death of a mass of humans will also be natural causes.

Thank you for the article, and for caring. I clicked the "suggest pin" on the upper right side of the post and hope others will too. I have some evening chores to do outside, but when done, if the mods haven't pinned it, I think I have enough karma to do it. Will check back.
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well i made this stupid meme earlier today in response to one with the same words but some vapid pretty girl looking woebegone...and i want to share it with you, nine's...for caring. it's a pic from the 500 dead penguins.

hf

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well damn....that can't be good now can it?
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would really like someone to explain to me how global warming is a myth.
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Okay. Greenland isn't the whole world. Maybe some ice melted in Greenland. That doesn't mean the whole world has warmed up. So it's not "global warming", it's "some ice melted in Greenland".

Secondly, just because some ice melted in Greenland doesn't prove that the "global warming theory" is correct. Ice melted in Greenland well before the Industrial Revolution, that's why it's called "Greenland". Vikings used to live there, raise cattle, and grow crops. You can't raise cattle or grow crops on a sheet of ice.

There might well be some OTHER reason for Greenland ice melting than "people released carbon dioxide, that warmed up the whole planet to warm up, and melted the ice in Greenland". Maybe it's as simple as "there was a big ice age which ended a few thousand years ago, and since then the planet has been warming up". But saying something like that is considered HERESY in the Church of Global Warming, so that's why you don't hear people saying it much.
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wnder what it means?
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It means it is summer.
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Extent of surface melt over Greenland’s ice sheet on July 8 (left) and July 12 (right). Measurements from three satellites showed that on July 8, about 40 percent of the ice sheet had undergone thawing at or near the surface. In just a few days, the melting had dramatically accelerated and an estimated 97 percent of the ice sheet surface had thawed by July 12. In the image, the areas classified as “probable melt” (light pink) correspond to those sites where at least one satellite detected surface melting. The areas classified as “melt” (dark pink) correspond to sites where two or three satellites detected surface melting. The satellites are measuring different physical properties at different scales and are passing over Greenland at different times. As a whole, they provide a picture of an extreme melt event about which scientists are very confident. Credit: Nicolo E. DiGirolamo, SSAI/NASA GSFC, and Jesse Allen, NASA Earth Observatory

[link to www.nasa.gov]
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You can't trust the climate scientists... they make up shit to fit the 'global warming' agenda of the globalist NAZI murderers. NEVER EVER believe a climate scientist. If they don't lie and go along with the political horseshit then they never get a grant and never get a publication and their 'science' career is over. If they lie and make shit up to support global warming, no matter how preposterous it might be, then they get grants, publications, and teaching assignments.

BEWARE!!! FRAUD!!!!
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would really like someone to explain to me how global warming is a myth.
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Okay. Greenland isn't the whole world. Maybe some ice melted in Greenland. That doesn't mean the whole world has warmed up. So it's not "global warming", it's "some ice melted in Greenland".

Secondly, just because some ice melted in Greenland doesn't prove that the "global warming theory" is correct. Ice melted in Greenland well before the Industrial Revolution, that's why it's called "Greenland". Vikings used to live there, raise cattle, and grow crops. You can't raise cattle or grow crops on a sheet of ice.

There might well be some OTHER reason for Greenland ice melting than "people released carbon dioxide, that warmed up the whole planet to warm up, and melted the ice in Greenland". Maybe it's as simple as "there was a big ice age which ended a few thousand years ago, and since then the planet has been warming up". But saying something like that is considered HERESY in the Church of Global Warming, so that's why you don't hear people saying it much.
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This most elegant/parsimonious explanation is that the scientists are making shit up to suit the globalist NAZI agenda.

"Vee must get zee number of people down, Ja?, so vee are going to kill you all or zee planet ist going to overheat."

Fucking trolls and shills... science has GONE TO HELL.
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wnder what it means?
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It means it is summer.
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GREENland used to be green in the summer, ja?

So, zee ice melts a bit, und den it snows in die Winter again, ja?!
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We've screwed up everything. The air we breathe, the land we live on and share with those we've allowed to survive, the water we drink and use to grow our crops, the waters that at one time were clean and healthy for many species of marine life. Oceans, ecosystems, plants, animals. Our children. We've screwed it all up.

Some will skim and either say or think, "it's just polar bears." Sadly, if it were baby seals that could be clubbed to death for money, there might be more reaction.

Read it and weep. Indeed.


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hi nine's...:)

YES. and they attribute the deaths of all the pelicans and 500 penguins in brazil to 'natural causes,' but do not explain what 'naturally caused' it. the consequential sequences.

always with the double speak.
 Quoting: Anne O'Mally


Hi Anne, yes, I know what you mean. Maybe the death of a mass of humans will also be natural causes.

Thank you for the article, and for caring. I clicked the "suggest pin" on the upper right side of the post and hope others will too. I have some evening chores to do outside, but when done, if the mods haven't pinned it, I think I have enough karma to do it. Will check back.
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well i made this stupid meme earlier today in response to one with the same words but some vapid pretty girl looking woebegone...and i want to share it with you, nine's...for caring. it's a pic from the 500 dead penguins.

hf

dontstopcaring
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Thanks Anne. It's good to have a reminder.

Going to pin this now. You'll get 3 karma for having it pinned. If you give one back it'll help for pinning the next one.

It will be very interesting to see how many people care.
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Read the article,

Stated the surface of the ice has melted NOT that the ice has melted.

Stated that this has occurred many time and reference 1800's.

Maybe NO DOOM.
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Extent of surface melt over Greenland’s ice sheet on July 8 (left) and July 12 (right). Measurements from three satellites showed that on July 8, about 40 percent of the ice sheet had undergone thawing at or near the surface. In just a few days, the melting had dramatically accelerated and an estimated 97 percent of the ice sheet surface had thawed by July 12. In the image, the areas classified as “probable melt” (light pink) correspond to those sites where at least one satellite detected surface melting. The areas classified as “melt” (dark pink) correspond to sites where two or three satellites detected surface melting. The satellites are measuring different physical properties at different scales and are passing over Greenland at different times. As a whole, they provide a picture of an extreme melt event about which scientists are very confident. Credit: Nicolo E. DiGirolamo, SSAI/NASA GSFC, and Jesse Allen, NASA Earth Observatory

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Again, They are drawing your attention away from something big... the ice melt is not the issue..

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Read the article,

Stated the surface of the ice has melted NOT that the ice has melted.

Stated that this has occurred many time and reference 1800's.

Maybe NO DOOM.
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I get the same thing
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wnder what it means?
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So MUCH incorrect speculation; So LITTLE facts, like the Astrophysics poster presented MONTHS ago.

It IS the solar maximum year, and we CAN'T stop the CMES from OUR SUN !

Better move to higher ground/READ MORE !
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look at the map.

reading the other threads. a couple comments stick out, like, 'check this winter's ice cap size, bigger than normal' (which i will do) and 'if greenlands ice melts we gain 27 feet of sea level globally.'

would really like someone to explain to me how global warming is a myth. i don't get it, never did, never really plugged into the global warming thing....just paying attention.
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Don't panic. Articles I read on the subject said NASA said this happens roughly every 150 years. The ice sheet is still there and it has already been noted that the melt is refreezing as I type.

Soooo....no Global Warming DOOM!!!
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YES. and they attribute the deaths of all the pelicans and 500 penguins in brazil to 'natural causes,' but do not explain what 'naturally caused' it. the consequential sequences.

always with the double speak.
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The pelican deaths were in Peru. I went there shortly afterwards and pelicans were covering all of the harbored boats. More than likely they were poisoned but none of the shipping companies wanted to publically show responsibility. Pelicans covered them so much it looked like a full crew of people standing on board each boat.

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would really like someone to explain to me how global warming is a myth.
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Okay. Greenland isn't the whole world. Maybe some ice melted in Greenland. That doesn't mean the whole world has warmed up. So it's not "global warming", it's "some ice melted in Greenland".

Secondly, just because some ice melted in Greenland doesn't prove that the "global warming theory" is correct. Ice melted in Greenland well before the Industrial Revolution, that's why it's called "Greenland". Vikings used to live there, raise cattle, and grow crops. You can't raise cattle or grow crops on a sheet of ice.

There might well be some OTHER reason for Greenland ice melting than "people released carbon dioxide, that warmed up the whole planet to warm up, and melted the ice in Greenland". Maybe it's as simple as "there was a big ice age which ended a few thousand years ago, and since then the planet has been warming up". But saying something like that is considered HERESY in the Church of Global Warming, so that's why you don't hear people saying it much.
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now, for the most part i agree. i do NOT think that cars and factories caused all this. however, i DO think we are seeing some unprecedented changes, and whether those are related to volcanoes or fires or CO2 or whatever, i can't say i know enough to make that call. i don't think the answer is as simple as 'carbon monoxide' though. i mean, one supervolcano can set off an ice age...what about the many volcanoes we've had going off lately? cumulative effect of that and other factors? what do you tink would be the factors, if not 'global warming?' if you read the articles the 'scientists' say that every 150 years this is 'normal,' but are shocked by THIS particular 97% event, as it is almost double expected average for the 150 year cycle.
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i wonder why its called greenland??
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YES. and they attribute the deaths of all the pelicans and 500 penguins in brazil to 'natural causes,' but do not explain what 'naturally caused' it. the consequential sequences.

always with the double speak.
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The pelican deaths were in Peru. I went there shortly afterwards and pelicans were covering all of the harbored boats. More than likely they were poisoned but none of the shipping companies wanted to publically show responsibility. Pelicans covered them so much it looked like a full crew of people standing on board each boat.
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yes, sorry, you are correct. :)

i delved into that deeply and if i wasn't tracking in 100 different directions right now i would have caught that before posting. so thanks. :)
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what do you tink would be the factors, if not 'global warming?' if you read the articles the 'scientists' say that every 150 years this is 'normal,' but are shocked by THIS particular 97% event, as it is almost double expected average for the 150 year cycle.
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How about "the planet is warming up after an ice age"? If the planet didn't warm up after ice ages, then there would only be ice ages. The whole planet would be always covered in ice. But that isn't what happens, in 4 billion years, there has been about 1 billion years of ice ages, and 3 billion years of NO ICE on the surface of the planet.
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Read the article,

Stated the surface of the ice has melted NOT that the ice has melted.

Stated that this has occurred many time and reference 1800's.

Maybe NO DOOM.
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I get the same thing
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except...

[link to www.livescience.com]

from this thread:

Thread: Magma May Be Melting Greenland Ice

Petermann Floating Tongue in north Greenland.
CREDIT: NASA/JPL

SAN FRANCISCO—Global warming may not be the only thing melting Greenland. Scientists have found at least one natural magma hotspot under the Arctic island that could be pitching in.

In recent years, Greenland’s ice has been melting more and flowing faster into the sea—a record amount of ice melted from the frozen mass this summer, according to recently released data—and Earth’s rising temperatures are suspected to be the main culprit.

But clues to a new natural contribution to the melt arose when scientists discovered a thin spot in the Earth’s crust under the northeast corner of the Greenland Ice Sheet where heat from Earth’s insides could seep through, scientists will report here this week at a meeting of the American Geophysical Union.

“The behavior of the great ice sheets is an important barometer of global climate change,” said lead scientist Ralph von Frese of Ohio State University. “However, to effectively separate and quantify human impacts on climate change, we must understand the natural impacts too.”

The corner of Greenland where the hotspot was found had no known ice streams, the rivers of ice that run through the main ice sheet and out to sea, until one was discovered in 1991. What exactly caused the stream to form was uncertain.

“Ice streams have to have some reason for being there,” von Frese said, “and it’s pretty surprising to suddenly see one in the middle of the ice sheet.”
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Hold up, the title does not make sense. It went from 40%-97% in 4 days. Not a whole 97 %.

Still that's a LOT in 4 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Read the article,

Stated the surface of the ice has melted NOT that the ice has melted.

Stated that this has occurred many time and reference 1800's.

Maybe NO DOOM.
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