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Random thought/matrix/paradox/maybe not

 
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Random thought/matrix/paradox/maybe not
We don't understand reality when we're dreaming.
And we don't understand dreams when not sleeping.

Is there something in between? Some way to connect the two?

Somehow/way to make sense of this?
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08/01/2012 10:10 PM
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Reality is whatever you perceive at that moment. Right?
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It occurs to me that at any given moment, because of the way the planet is as a thing, some percentage of human beings are asleep, always, and many are awake. And so if the world soul is made of the collective consciousness of human beings, then it is never entirely awake. It is never entirely asleep. It exists in some kind of indeterminate zone.
 Quoting: Terence McKenna
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In the dream state, what you perceive is real.
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It occurs to me that at any given moment, because of the way the planet is as a thing, some percentage of human beings are asleep, always, and many are awake. And so if the world soul is made of the collective consciousness of human beings, then it is never entirely awake. It is never entirely asleep. It exists in some kind of indeterminate zone.
 Quoting: Terence McKenna

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The void?
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Re: Random thought/matrix/paradox/maybe not
In the dream state, what you perceive is real.
 Quoting: Bent


In the awake state what you perceive is fake.

(this is my opinion)
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lucid dreaming maybe? look it up....
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08/02/2012 06:57 AM
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Re: Random thought/matrix/paradox/maybe not
In the dream state, what you perceive is real.
 Quoting: Bent


In the awake state what you perceive is fake.

(this is my opinion)
 Quoting: Bent


Maybe they're both as real as each other, and as unreal as each other.

Maybe they're two sides of the same coin, reflecting each other.
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In the dream state, what you perceive is real.
 Quoting: Bent


Then I've witnessed some really fucked up reality ohyeah
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From personal experience, when you can controll your dreams they do make sense while dreaming and awake. Another variable for you.
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We don't understand reality when we're dreaming.
And we don't understand dreams when not sleeping.

Is there something in between? Some way to connect the two?

Somehow/way to make sense of this?
 Quoting: Bent


This is exactly my ambition for years now. Never really got to the point but if i got you right the methods to reach this state would be deep meditation and lucid-dreaming-techniques.
I would say it's the ability to discharge dmt from your brain while being able to stay awake and conscious.
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Re: Random thought/matrix/paradox/maybe not
It occurs to me that at any given moment, because of the way the planet is as a thing, some percentage of human beings are asleep, always, and many are awake. And so if the world soul is made of the collective consciousness of human beings, then it is never entirely awake. It is never entirely asleep. It exists in some kind of indeterminate zone.
 Quoting: Terence McKenna

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21050886


The void?
 Quoting: Bent


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