Bill intriduced in House to stop drone surveillance in America! | |
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Epic Beard Guy
(OP) User ID: 1079209 United States 08/06/2012 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I checked the rest of my email, she sent this letter 5 times. That must be 1 for every time I wrote her about this unconstitutional intrusion into our privacy. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20971286 Slovenia 08/06/2012 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Romney will supply us with another false flag "terrorist" attack to make sure his friends keep producing them drones, while the americans hand over their personal freedoms once again(like the glorious "patriot" act), Its already a police state, but it can be worse, much worse. |
EvenT6HorizoN
User ID: 12833553 United States 08/06/2012 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You didn't even type it correctly that time. I think that means you need to find a new phrase that isn't stupid. "I collapsed a lung, screaming at the face of ignorance. I fell victim to the excuse of hatered." - Crater "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" - Voltaire "Some feel the rain, others just get wet" - Bob Marley |
11.11.11
User ID: 21041025 United States 08/06/2012 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Get the word out people! Spirituality is the opposite of religion, religion is a substitute for spirituality. Spirituality is a direct connection to Creator The Most high. Anyone who inflicts pain on others will suffer themself from that pain. Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil. |
Bluebird
User ID: 730536 United States 08/06/2012 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very good news! Let's hope they are able to get something actually done. May be tough with Democrats in control of the Senate. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Epic Beard Guy
(OP) User ID: 1079209 United States 08/06/2012 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I checked the rest of my email, she sent this letter 5 times. That must be 1 for every time I wrote her about this unconstitutional intrusion into our privacy. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy So it's automated responses? This one probably is. Most of my responses are more personal, not news letters like this one. I write her so often that someone actually responds. It probably isn't her, but it is a person responding. I suspect it is an assistant, but at least someone is reading and responding. This one is just a news letter, but it is important. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
Epic Beard Guy
(OP) User ID: 1079209 United States 08/06/2012 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You didn't even type it correctly that time. I think that means you need to find a new phrase that isn't stupid. It was funny the first few times. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
Bluebird
User ID: 730536 United States 08/06/2012 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Romney will supply us with another false flag "terrorist" attack to make sure his friends keep producing them drones, while the americans hand over their personal freedoms once again(like the glorious "patriot" act), Its already a police state, but it can be worse, much worse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20971286 Obama is the one in love with drones! He watches them like porn! [link to theulstermanreport.com] One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
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Epic Beard Guy
(OP) User ID: 1079209 United States 08/06/2012 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very good news! Quoting: Bluebird Let's hope they are able to get something actually done. May be tough with Democrats in control of the Senate. It's election year, so maybe we will get it done. I doubt it, but I will remain hopeful. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
Epic Beard Guy
(OP) User ID: 1079209 United States 08/06/2012 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Romney will supply us with another false flag "terrorist" attack to make sure his friends keep producing them drones, while the americans hand over their personal freedoms once again(like the glorious "patriot" act), Its already a police state, but it can be worse, much worse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20971286 Obama is the one in love with drones! He watches them like porn! [link to theulstermanreport.com] Please, everyone, write Washington about this. This is very important. [link to www.house.gov] [link to www.senate.gov] For once, they are trying to do something good, please tell them how much we want this bill. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
wisc_natureboy
User ID: 21156133 United States 08/06/2012 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just got this letter from my rep. in DC. Surpisingly, it seems she paid attention to what I wrote her several times. Everyone should write their reps and senators to support this bill. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy WASHINGTON – U.S. Representative Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo) joined 22 of her colleagues in introducing H.R. 6199, the Preserving American Privacy Act, which is designed to protect individual citizens’ privacy from the increasing domestic use of Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV), or drones. Already deployed on the battlefield and along our nation’s borders, drones are now being used domestically by private and governmental entities. H.R. 6199 would: prohibit drone surveillance without a warrant; prohibit drone surveillance by private entities without the subject’s consent; and, prohibit agencies like the Environmental Protection Agency from using drone-collected surveillance in administrative hearings. “This is another instance of new technology challenging our constitutional rights, and the Constitution should always win,” Rep. Lummis said. “Drones are and will continue to be a great tool for our military and Border Patrol. But drones also dramatically enhance the government’s ability to spy on Americans, so we need to set a privacy standard to prevent unauthorized drone flights over our backyards. H.R. 6199 strikes a balance between law enforcement and individual freedom that I believe is consistent with the Constitution.” The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) currently grants permits for limited drone use on a case-by-case basis. Numerous domestic federal agencies (including the EPA), research institutions and state and local law enforcement currently have active permits. The FAA is also working towards the wholesale integration of drones into United States airspace by 2015. The Preserving American Privacy Act would: • Prohibit the FAA from issuing a drone permit for law enforcement or surveillance purposes unless the activity is pursuant to a warrant and in the investigation of a felony. This prohibition would be applicable to State, Federal, and local jurisdictions. • Prohibit the FAA from issuing a drone permit to any private individual for person or property surveillance unless the person under surveillance has consented or the owner of the property has consented. • Prohibit evidence obtained by drones from being used by federal agencies in administrative hearings. • Preserve the current use of drones for border security purposes and within 25 miles of a United States border. Sincerely, Cynthia M. Lummis Member of Congress Thank you for this information. I will urge my Congressional Reps to co-sponsor and support this bill. We all breathe the same air. .-.. --- ...- . / .- .-.. .-.. |
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Project_Deimos
User ID: 19484516 United States 08/06/2012 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think UAV's are cool but this legislation is absolutely necessary. They should not be operating without being restricted by warrants. "There are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know." |
Epic Beard Guy
(OP) User ID: 1079209 United States 08/06/2012 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Come on Brief, try to be a little optimistic. We need to win this one. It's time to fight for the Constitution! People listen to you, please tell them to contact their reps and support this. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
wisc_natureboy
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20705582 United States 08/06/2012 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's too bad that an effective campaign to eliminate what could be one of the most important and essential tools we have against the true enemies among us will succeed. I suppose the greater evil that these drones have the capacity for, and the potential for abuse is greater than the good they can do at preventing devastating attacks. If you had nothing to hide, then you had nothing to fear. Our border security flaws have been exploited, immigration policies exploited, our tolerances exploited. Our vulnerabilities have made our doom possible. We'd rather die free, then to live with enhanced security. Right? Careful what you wish for. Thread: Welcome to the beginning of the end |
Epic Beard Guy
(OP) User ID: 1079209 United States 08/06/2012 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think UAV's are cool but this legislation is absolutely necessary. They should not be operating without being restricted by warrants. Quoting: Project_Deimos UAVs are really cool technology, but they do not belong in the skys above America! Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
wisc_natureboy
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20490216 United States 08/06/2012 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's too bad that an effective campaign to eliminate what could be one of the most important and essential tools we have against the true enemies among us will succeed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20705582 I suppose the greater evil that these drones have the capacity for, and the potential for abuse is greater than the good they can do at preventing devastating attacks. If you had nothing to hide, then you had nothing to fear. Our border security flaws have been exploited, immigration policies exploited, our tolerances exploited. Our vulnerabilities have made our doom possible. We'd rather die free, then to live with enhanced security. Right? Careful what you wish for. Thread: Welcome to the beginning of the end Ask yourself this; "What I am really fearful of?" "He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither." |
BRIEF
User ID: 381742 United States 08/06/2012 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please, try and be positive. I am not a crystal keeper or anything, but positive vibration works better and faster than negative vibrations. That's why it took years for us to be desensitized. Move forward. Go write your Congressman/woman. Come on Brief, try to be a little optimistic. We need to win this one. It's time to fight for the Constitution! People listen to you, please tell them to contact their reps and support this. Why not contact your Reps and urge them to support it rather than jumping to a negative conclusion? If it fails, at least you will know you did something. Wow, that went over some heads... I support the bill of course. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20490216 United States 08/06/2012 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please, try and be positive. I am not a crystal keeper or anything, but positive vibration works better and faster than negative vibrations. That's why it took years for us to be desensitized. Move forward. Go write your Congressman/woman. Come on Brief, try to be a little optimistic. We need to win this one. It's time to fight for the Constitution! People listen to you, please tell them to contact their reps and support this. Why not contact your Reps and urge them to support it rather than jumping to a negative conclusion? If it fails, at least you will know you did something. Wow, that went over some heads... I support the bill of course. Well, went over our heads how supportive you were. Maybe trying stating that first, then your fears about it passing? Dunno, don't want to "MOM" you, or anything. :/ |
Epic Beard Guy
(OP) User ID: 1079209 United States 08/06/2012 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's too bad that an effective campaign to eliminate what could be one of the most important and essential tools we have against the true enemies among us will succeed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20705582 I suppose the greater evil that these drones have the capacity for, and the potential for abuse is greater than the good they can do at preventing devastating attacks. If you had nothing to hide, then you had nothing to fear. Our border security flaws have been exploited, immigration policies exploited, our tolerances exploited. Our vulnerabilities have made our doom possible. We'd rather die free, then to live with enhanced security. Right? Careful what you wish for. Thread: Welcome to the beginning of the end The borders are a good use for these drones. Catching illegals is not a priority for Oblabla though. These will be used to spy on us instead of the illegals coming in every day. With the military running war games where the TEA party is the enemy, you can guess what is going to happen next. Since most of us on GLP fit the administration's definition of "terrorist" I think we all have some thing to fear. As gun owners, veterans, TEA partyers, and preppers, we are obviously a much bigger threat to national security than 20 million illegals, and presidential friends like Bill Ayers, Saul Alynski, and Van Jones. Communists and socialists are OK, but they must stop the Constitutionalists! Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
BRIEF
User ID: 381742 United States 08/06/2012 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please, try and be positive. I am not a crystal keeper or anything, but positive vibration works better and faster than negative vibrations. That's why it took years for us to be desensitized. Move forward. Go write your Congressman/woman. Come on Brief, try to be a little optimistic. We need to win this one. It's time to fight for the Constitution! People listen to you, please tell them to contact their reps and support this. Why not contact your Reps and urge them to support it rather than jumping to a negative conclusion? If it fails, at least you will know you did something. Wow, that went over some heads... I support the bill of course. Well, went over our heads how supportive you were. Maybe trying stating that first, then your fears about it passing? Dunno, don't want to "MOM" you, or anything. :/ Obviously I don't want the bill shot down like a drone falling from the sky after having flown over your heads spying on you... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5141990 United States 08/06/2012 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's too bad that an effective campaign to eliminate what could be one of the most important and essential tools we have against the true enemies among us will succeed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20705582 I suppose the greater evil that these drones have the capacity for, and the potential for abuse is greater than the good they can do at preventing devastating attacks. If you had nothing to hide, then you had nothing to fear. Our border security flaws have been exploited, immigration policies exploited, our tolerances exploited. Our vulnerabilities have made our doom possible. We'd rather die free, then to live with enhanced security. Right? Careful what you wish for. Thread: Welcome to the beginning of the end What mind warping bs...I do not mind "enhanced security" but I do not see the need for the free for all of collecting data on US citizens by gov't or private entities. They should be made to produce a warrant...where does it end? |