John Moore-Nibiru moderated thread for civil discusion

I'm hoping a regular Moore listener can help me differentiate some things he's talked about in the past because there is no way I would know what date that he talked about certain things and listen to all of it in a timely manner.

Moore had originally talked a lot about Planet X and I believe he also considered this to be the 10th planet-right? This was years ago where he saw it himself on the Hubble telescope if I'm not mistaken.

Then he was talking about ELENIN and he was saying it wasn't going to be a problem but it's what's coming in BEHIND it is what the problem is. Does this all sound like a correct run down of what he's talked about in the past?

I thought just recently (the past few months) I heard him say Wormwood, The Destroyer, (planet x or nibiru-can't remember which one) --"whatever you want to call it"<-----So, he knows people are calling the same thing by different names...is he interchanging Nibiru with Planet X ---I think he considers them different but am not sure and am asking for clarification of what Moore is talking about.

Apparently, Moore got into all of this when he saw that Naval map of 1979 of coastal flooding and then learned about the pole shift that would happen (Woolly Mammoths with tropical vegetation in their tummy's that were flash frozen, etc)--Now was it after investigating how this pole shift was to happen that he stumbled into space happenings being the culprit? From there he pays attention.

Nibiru and planet X are 2 different things, right?
Does John Moore consider them 2 different things?

Thanks in advance to anyone who wants to answer but I hope you specify that you are a Moore listener or not and then also specify your beliefs (if you have your own-for our experts) and what beliefs you remember John Moore having. I want to know it all but I need to clarify what John Moore was talking about primarily.

I just heard him say planet X, nibiru...so he's interchanging these. They are the same thing according to him. We need to understand what he's saying to fully understand.

Video on this thread w/info:
Thread: BREAKING NEWS.... GET READY NOW...

Just a heads up for this one,too.

Has anyone every noticed the crazy looking death star like Sphere outside the Vatican. What is it and what does it mean. Is this the same object that The Washington Times mentioned in 1983? Is this the reason for the Georgia Guide stones?

Peace

I cannot post pictures of it but I am sure someone will.

Last Edited by Amy_A on 08/10/2012 06:44 PM

I know which one you're talking about. I've seen copies as well. The sphere that looks cracked.

Yes, I believe Planet X is what John Moore is referring to as Nibiru. I believe others (like here at glp or other sites)consider them 2 separate things.--Correct me if I'm wrong, someone but this is how I understand thus far.

No worries. It just a spamming troll who won't be coming back and whose post has been removed.

The video is an old hoax.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
It didn't help that comments were disabled on the video, gee I wonder why.

Incidentally, I prefer this version...

It's from 7/25/2012

See, when you just throw out "it's an old hoax", it makes me question a lot of what you post. It's not been proven a hoax and it's not that old.

Actually it's recycled from may (hence why the version I just posted above was added to youtube in may). And yes, it's a hoax.


Last Edited by Astromut on 08/10/2012 08:46 PM

D'Light,

I have listened to John Moore for a while now. I’m not a fanatic, but I have to say I have been paying a lot more attention and listening every day since the announcement a few weeks ago. He pretty much repeats a lot in his daily broadcast and that is less than an hour when you skip the commercials. I listened to his whole DVD for free on Youtube a couple of years ago and finally broke down and bought an updated double DVD from him last year. Everything you need to know about him really is free on YouTube IMO. I just like having the DVD. I'm old-school I guess. I still buy music CDs too.

Anyway, John Moore is a studied Christian, Vietnam vet, former detective, and is now a consultant/speaker. His religious beliefs appear to be genuinely Christian in nature. A couple of examples where he believes Nibiru, The Destroyer, Appolyon, Wormwood, Planet X (all names for the same thing) ties in with scripture are Noah’s Flood, and Joshua’s battle where he asked God for more time and the Bible says there sun did not set but stayed still in the sky for hours. Apparently, there are Chinese records from that time period that document the same lengthening of the day. For that to have happened in both places at the same time he postulates that the Earth would have to have “rolled over in space”, his words not mine. That could only happen if something truly massive passed very nearby. Thus the belief that Nibiru must exist.

He believes that Planet X has been the catalyst responsible for the end of many previous ages. For example, he believes Nibiru is responsible for the sinking of Atlantis and the mysterious seemingly high tech stonework found in Puma Punku, in Tiahuanaco Bolivia that we don’t have the technology even today to replicate. Somebody made that stuff and at a time when conventional wisdom would say was devoid of any kind of technology necessary to build those structures. John thinks it’s because we have possessed that kind of technology before in previous ages.

I don’t recall him saying he personal saw Hubble Telescope images of Nibiru. In fact he regularly tells listeners that he doesn’t need to and advises people not to get hung up on the lack of telescope image proof. He bases his belief off information from the scientists he names and the personal interviews he has done.

Does that cover it all for ya?

i thought you could only see it in the southern hemisphere for now

shillbot, how do you know for certain?

maybe this is what will purify humankind

Nibiru passing

magnetic pole shift

earth changes

coastlines flooded

solar flare

power out

fema camps

underground bases

people losing their minds, unless hearts are open and spirit filled

dimensional shift

consciousness change

I was talking about the very first video in the very first link in the quote box (THE MOORE VIDEO ON THE OTHER LINKED THREAD)not the planet pic you posted---None of what your response had anything to do with what I was talking about first or in my other post later. Sorry for the confusion but I've seen this more than once--you posting and answer to something that had nothing to do with what was being discussed.

Please don't repond like that because it will only fuel a flamefest and that is what I opened this thread to shelter people from who just wanted to be able to have a simple conversation in peace without all the crap.

Yes, thanks.

I'm much like you. Listened to his youtube lecture years ago, talked to acquaintances that also heard of him and hear him when he pops up once in a great while. Just this last spring I realized he had a radio broadcast. LOL, the shills want to act like I'm fanatic because I defend his reputation--I could be wrong but someone asked and I AM allowed opinions. Never got into the Nibiru but heard him mention px in passing I was more intrigued by the pole shift process and history without ever putting his px into play until his show went viral (I don't listen religiously--until last July-lol). No matter what happens or doesn't happen I am a firm believer in pole shift--also for the reasons you mentioned--so this Nibiru may be the catalyst and also a new subject for me to go along with my pole shift doom.

I'm having trouble understanding why it's hard for some to understand that it isn't circling around us like our own system planets (in theory). If it circles in a completely different direction on a long elliptical and gains speed as it comes in-then it should be obvious why we can't see it--even if it's just a theory and wrong it makes sense, especially if it's a brown dwarf or neutrino star (I think I'm calling it by the right name).

You were talking about this video, were you not?
[link to www.youtube.com]
Do you not see how the video part of it is the same thing as the old hoax I linked to?

Last Edited by Astromut on 08/10/2012 09:26 PM

So you're talking about the pic? The one that has nothing to do with John Moore, the one that someone uploaded along with the music to go along with Johns commentary?--It has nothing to do with Nibiru or anything...someone just took a photo/vid to add "art" to the commentary, same way with music. This is how things get out of hand and discredited---

Well it is a pic, but the hoaxer who originally uploaded it would like you to believe it's a video. In any case, it's the same exact "video" as the hoax I linked to above, I thought that was pretty self-explanatory.

I've heard several theories on why it can't be seen. Some of them are just rediculous and some of them seem to make sense. I think the number one reason people instantly jump to discredit the idea of s Nibiru type planet is that their beloved media doesn't tell them about it, calls people crazy who bring it up, and point to wackos like Nancy Lieder to justify their judgement for anyone who doesn't swallow what NASA and the nightly news want you to believe.

The fact that there are so many intensely hateful people flat out lying about one guy warning people to simply prepare on a conspiracy sight of all places tells me something has hit a nerve. I don't want to believe in shills, but dang, this has stirred up a hornets nest.

Like the saying:

"Thou doest protest too much".
or doth if you prefer.

Either way, I've never seen such protest here.

Honestly I don't see that at all. To me it's that amateur astronomers, myself included, don't see the perturbations it would be causing. I don't really see any one saying that the reason they don't believe it is because the media doesn't say it exists.

Thread: If Nibiru/planet x is not coming, then what is FEMA and the secret government preparing for

This morning's John Moore show 8-10-12

2008 video:

7/12 Global Warming - What the Government isn't Telling You 7/12
[link to www.youtube.com]

Hmmm, back in 2008 Johnny boy was telling his marks that:
(1:34) -- 'Gov't evacuations must be complete by the end of 2009'
(and why 2009? Because PX is coming during the following timeframe:)
(1:51) -- 'The time-frame is 2010'
(1:57) -- 'That's why 2012 is a distraction'
(2:33) -- 'The gubbiment knows this as well, that's why they've pushed these dates on us of 2012 and then later in the century.'
(2:37) -- 'Because they want to distract people.'

So, just like Ninny Lieder, he stated that 2012 was too far out. According to his 'trusted and credible anonymous sources', the gubbiment was rushing to complete preps by Dec. 2009 because the time frame for Wormywood/PX/Nibble-U to visit death and destruction upon us was "2010".
And it's still on Rubetube for the rubes to see how gullible they are to believe this con-man.
I would think Johnny-boy would like to delete these vids as they show his abject failure and make a good case he hasn't any "sources" at all. He's just a liar.

Buy all his survival gear, and books, and DVDs, and git yersef a console-tation from an Oszark hillbilly scammer.
After all, he's a born-again christian so he wouldn't lie to you would he?
He's won't be like all the other con-men who have taken Bible-belters to the cleaners for over a century.
(snicker)

And now he's about to meet his 2nd Great White Lie. He's giving Nancy a run for the money in white lies.

That anyone over the age of 12 could believe this dimwit is depressing to me.

Carry on.


R.

thanks for making a thread where we can have a real dicussion

On his Aug 10th show he's saying he hasn't had another source for Aug 17 or Sept 26 dates so he doesn't expect anything- it was about 33:00 minutes or later.

Interesting that he said when the pole shift happens the USA will be further south.

So now he's backing off those statements?

A poster above pointed out how all this shit was SUPPOSED to happen in 2010...

John Moore is dis-info through and through...

You know what, I take that back.

John Moore's a hack that just wants to make a profit on his bullshit survival gear.

There, I said it.

People, words matter. Get your facts straight. Some people are misquoting what he said to suit their own biases and assumptions.

In Moore's DVDs he said over and over again that he did not know an exact date for when Nibiru might sail through the inner solar system, but that all the different government and private organizations he referenced had plans to be ready by the end of 2009. It was not a SHTF date, it was a be ready by date for governments and major private companies. That did happen. He was expecting it to be here sooner. He was concerned about 2010, but he was never certain of and never has given an exact date.

The dates of August 17th and September 26th were not Moore's dates or his sources dates. It was Mike Harris's sources's date. In that two hour show they did together, they discussed the incompatible difference between the size of Nibiru and the object Mike Harris's source warned about. They left that difference open for question.

That is not "backing off", that is just what the man has said.

Last Edited by Resister on 08/11/2012 02:36 PM