BREAKING: USS Porter collides with Japanese-owned tanker near Strait of Hormuz! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19458879 United States 08/12/2012 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | True! Wouldn't make sense for the warship to make the turn though? WTF happened there. Quoting: insertfunnyusername :blumerl: I'm taking a guess here so don't anyone get mad at me if I'm wrong. The tankers Japanese, the Japanese have been how shall we say "a bit reluctant to go along with the US lead oil embargo." I'd not be all that surprised if it was carrying Iranian crude and the USA was sending a message. Also historically the Japanese owe the US a pay back for the oil, scrap iron and other embargo's that they placed on Japan prior to WWII. That might make more sense if the USS Porter was scheduled for upgrades in 2013. Sacrifice a boat that will be out of commission soon anyway and get better upgrades for it too. Dont know if it is scheduled, but it's worth looking into. No, these class of ships are modern and they do go thru regular upgrades throughout all the 70 of these ships. It's not a bid deal and we don't need to sacrifice a destroyer to get upgrades for it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19458879 United States 08/12/2012 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i guess the tanker did not see all the warnings and or hear the warning shots fired and hit the poor US ship....like we were told about the Indian fishing boat ...where the US killed and wounded unarmed fishermen from UAE and India...last i heard the UAE was investigating that event as a murder...then it fell into the media black hole....there was a possibility of international charges brought against the sailors involved. Quoting: psyoptics You are looking at this with the wrong perspective The tanker has a set trajectory guided by GPS is always set the same way and is mandatory that they follow that trajectory thru the channel, the tanker did not need to do anything those things are slow and can hardly turn. It was the destroyer that needed to take evasive maneuvers, they drill for this all the time. |
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Gregor Samsa
User ID: 21425421 Turkey 08/12/2012 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This shit also happens from time to time in Bosphorus strait (not lately thankfully) but Bosphorus is a few km wide (the widest point 3,6 km-the narrowest point 700 m) while Hormuz is 39 km wide. To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much. G.I. Gurdjieff |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19458879 United States 08/12/2012 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This shit also happens from time to time in Bosphorus strait (not lately thankfully) but Bosphorus is a few km wide (the widest point 3,6 km-the narrowest point 700 m) while Hormuz is 39 km wide. Quoting: Gregor Samsa Yep you beat me to it this happens all the time but mostly at dock when ships are being moved around not in a directional sea channel where ships move along like a car lane one way on the right and the opposite way on the left |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19458879 United States 08/12/2012 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have no idea of the Shananigans that go on in a ship to keep sane. Sailors work really long hard hours. While on the way at sea they don't have any days off ATT ALL and work around 12 hours every day on their regular job or and additional hours that they have to put in for training, ship drills, exercise, and studying to pass certifications. |
Gregor Samsa
User ID: 21425421 Turkey 08/12/2012 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This shit also happens from time to time in Bosphorus strait (not lately thankfully) but Bosphorus is a few km wide (the widest point 3,6 km-the narrowest point 700 m) while Hormuz is 39 km wide. Quoting: Gregor Samsa Hello GS! Hello my friend Hey let's drink raki/uzo sometime in the future on Bosphorus side To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much. G.I. Gurdjieff |
insertfunnyusername
(OP) User ID: 21782117 Greece 08/12/2012 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This shit also happens from time to time in Bosphorus strait (not lately thankfully) but Bosphorus is a few km wide (the widest point 3,6 km-the narrowest point 700 m) while Hormuz is 39 km wide. Quoting: Gregor Samsa Hello GS! Hello my friend Hey let's drink raki/uzo sometime in the future on Bosphorus side I'll definitely going to call you the next time i'm going to be there. Visited 2 years ago and i had a great time. Vice-versa whenever you will visit here too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19458879 United States 08/12/2012 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This shit also happens from time to time in Bosphorus strait (not lately thankfully) but Bosphorus is a few km wide (the widest point 3,6 km-the narrowest point 700 m) while Hormuz is 39 km wide. Quoting: Gregor Samsa Hello GS! Hello my friend Hey let's drink raki/uzo sometime in the future on Bosphorus side I'll definitely going to call you the next time i'm going to be there. Visited 2 years ago and i had a great time. Vice-versa whenever you will visit here too. Get a Room!!! |
insertfunnyusername
(OP) User ID: 21782117 Greece 08/12/2012 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have no idea of the Shananigans that go on in a ship to keep sane. Sailors work really long hard hours. While on the way at sea they don't have any days off ATT ALL and work around 12 hours every day on their regular job or and additional hours that they have to put in for training, ship drills, exercise, and studying to pass certifications. I know that life on a ship is hard my friend, didn't mean to offend anyone, just like to joke from time to time, i'm a funny guy. I can't find some new info on this one and the investigation results or any updates will take some time. |
insertfunnyusername
(OP) User ID: 21782117 Greece 08/12/2012 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello my friend Hey let's drink raki/uzo sometime in the future on Bosphorus side I'll definitely going to call you the next time i'm going to be there. Visited 2 years ago and i had a great time. Vice-versa whenever you will visit here too. Get a Room!!! We arranging it as we speak! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19458879 United States 08/12/2012 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have no idea of the Shananigans that go on in a ship to keep sane. Sailors work really long hard hours. While on the way at sea they don't have any days off ATT ALL and work around 12 hours every day on their regular job or and additional hours that they have to put in for training, ship drills, exercise, and studying to pass certifications. I know that life on a ship is hard my friend, didn't mean to offend anyone, just like to joke from time to time, i'm a funny guy. I can't find some new info on this one and the investigation results or any updates will take some time. Ooh I was not offended I was more agreeing with you on this one. Sailors do some funny shit while on their way |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19458879 United States 08/12/2012 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Gregor Samsa Hello my friend Hey let's drink raki/uzo sometime in the future on Bosphorus side I'll definitely going to call you the next time i'm going to be there. Visited 2 years ago and i had a great time. Vice-versa whenever you will visit here too. Get a Room!!! We arranging it as we speak! Greek style, huh!. Don't forget the lube |
Gregor Samsa
User ID: 21425421 Turkey 08/12/2012 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This shit also happens from time to time in Bosphorus strait (not lately thankfully) but Bosphorus is a few km wide (the widest point 3,6 km-the narrowest point 700 m) while Hormuz is 39 km wide. Quoting: Gregor Samsa Hello GS! Hello my friend Hey let's drink raki/uzo sometime in the future on Bosphorus side I'll definitely going to call you the next time i'm going to be there. Visited 2 years ago and i had a great time. Vice-versa whenever you will visit here too. Definitely let me know and sure i will do the same if i am going to visit Greece To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much. G.I. Gurdjieff |
insertfunnyusername
(OP) User ID: 21782117 Greece 08/12/2012 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: insertfunnyusername I'll definitely going to call you the next time i'm going to be there. Visited 2 years ago and i had a great time. Vice-versa whenever you will visit here too. Get a Room!!! We arranging it as we speak! Greek style, huh!. Don't forget the lube |
Gregor Samsa
User ID: 21425421 Turkey 08/12/2012 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: insertfunnyusername I'll definitely going to call you the next time i'm going to be there. Visited 2 years ago and i had a great time. Vice-versa whenever you will visit here too. Get a Room!!! We arranging it as we speak! Greek style, huh!. Don't forget the lube lol To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much. G.I. Gurdjieff |
Space Janitor
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20022035 United States 08/12/2012 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all the advanced radar and sonar technologies, not to mention the proximity sensors...how in God's name does a destroyer collide with a tanker ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21786670 This is the 21 century guys, there are a shitload of electronics and all sorts of measures to prevent this kind of thing from occurring...either the crew on the bridge was asleep or drunk or something is very fishy here ! ...I asked a ex-captain from Costa Rivera that question.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20032393 United States 08/12/2012 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this from David Wilcock latest update- "I found out that two more massive false-flag attempts have been thwarted by Divine Intervention -- at least so far. Either one of these would have been provocative enough to immediately start World War III. At this time there is still an old, mothballed destroyer in the Persian Gulf that is wired up with charges set to go off -- and be blamed on Iran. However, the charges will not go off and the effort has been a failure. There have been many frantic attempts to set up false-flag events like this, and none of them have been working -- since August of last year, if not earlier." while its not a mothballed destroyer, it would fall under 'expendable' USS Cole 2.0. maybe someone threw a wrench in the plan. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20022035 United States 08/12/2012 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all the advanced radar and sonar technologies, not to mention the proximity sensors...how in God's name does a destroyer collide with a tanker ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21786670 This is the 21 century guys, there are a shitload of electronics and all sorts of measures to prevent this kind of thing from occurring...either the crew on the bridge was asleep or drunk or something is very fishy here ! ...the next time you turn on the hose on the outside wall of your house...that turning the value...that's all 1 guy had to do at Three Mile Island...ever see the Far Side cartoon..the 2 pilots looking out the window and saying " How did the goat get way up here?"...imagine a computer programmer being paid huge sums for his/her talents who then writes a program that buys $440 million in stocks in 45 minutes and brings down a company with employees !...or the guy who drives thru the front door of -the 7-11...brake-throttle...brake-throttle...and yet !!!..not to mention that bitch in HS who dropped me for a low-rider !!!! |
insertfunnyusername
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12064276 United States 08/12/2012 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With all the advanced radar and sonar technologies, not to mention the proximity sensors...how in God's name does a destroyer collide with a tanker ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21786670 This is the 21 century guys, there are a shitload of electronics and all sorts of measures to prevent this kind of thing from occurring...either the crew on the bridge was asleep or drunk or something is very fishy here ! busy watching PORN no doubt, just the rest of the gov employees. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5449673 United Kingdom 08/12/2012 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's just say I'm somewhat of a Navy expert and I know these Arleigh Burke-class destroyer well and I know about Navy procedures. Quoting: Ready2bugout AKA R2B BOB I'm dumbfounded by this incident (refuse to call it accident) this class of ships are very maneuverable and while going thru the straits due to how busy the channel is they would of had observers on deck. yes, which brings us to the point that it was not an accident. Japanese tanker carrying Iranian oil? Not any more And a large signal that another accident is on its way if they continue with oil shipment. Isn't it ebaressing to know that Americans are not playing by the fair game rules? After 35 years of sanctions on Iran and closing every single path for Iran, they are still losing and resorting to below the belt activities. Somehow i feel that all this is going to backfire on USA with a very big fall for the big guy |
Poriwoggu
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20032393 United States 08/12/2012 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's just say I'm somewhat of a Navy expert and I know these Arleigh Burke-class destroyer well and I know about Navy procedures. Quoting: Ready2bugout AKA R2B BOB I'm dumbfounded by this incident (refuse to call it accident) this class of ships are very maneuverable and while going thru the straits due to how busy the channel is they would of had observers on deck. yes, which brings us to the point that it was not an accident. Japanese tanker carrying Iranian oil? Not any more And a large signal that another accident is on its way if they continue with oil shipment. Isn't it ebaressing to know that Americans are not playing by the fair game rules? After 35 years of sanctions on Iran and closing every single path for Iran, they are still losing and resorting to below the belt activities. Somehow i feel that all this is going to backfire on USA with a very big fall for the big guy not likely a warning to Iran. 'oh yeah we'll show you not to mess with us by getting our destroyer run over' LOL |