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<<SINKHOLE UPDATE Aug 24th>>RADIATION LEVELS are 15 TIMES over LIMIT!!!SINKHOLE is SALTIER the DEEPER it gets>>

 
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More evacuations coming soon!

Chemical reaction: Fear, confusion of 100s more evacuees 88 miles from sinkhole

[link to www.examiner.com]

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This was a week ago. Evacuations for this was small and everyone was back home on Saturday. Sorry to rain on your parade
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The sinkhole, now the size of three football fields, shaped like an upside-down Superdome Stadium, and filled with liquid slurry is blamed on Texas Brine Co.'s failed salt cavern near Bayou Corne.

[link to www.examiner.com]
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UPDATE AUGUST 24th

Radiation levels are 15 times the limit at the sinkhole, and health officials are telling people in the area to keep a close eye on their health!

[link to www.examiner.com]
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UPDATE AUGUST 24th

Radiation levels are 15 times the limit at the sinkhole, and health officials are telling people in the area to keep a close eye on their health!

[link to www.examiner.com]
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There's no other way around it... we are all fucked :(
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You didn't answer the question... How did they determine the depth of this sinkhole?
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Why don't you go find it out if you need to know so badly. Search on google "how to measure depth of a sinkhole".

It is probably a similar way to checking the depth of a lake. Would you like me to go and research it all for you? Why are you asking? lol
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Before sonar was invented they dropped a weight on the end of a rope and measured out the rope.
It still works.

What is really fucked up about this story, is that earlier this month they were saying there was butane stored in the salt dome. Now they are saying radioactive waste is tored there.

That's fucked up.
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The NORM is so insignificant it is moot, what the *REAL* issue is, is the potential for a BLEVE of biblical proportions...
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If I understood what i read the other day, there are both a butane cave and a radioactive waste cave.
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Why don't you go find it out if you need to know so badly. Search on google "how to measure depth of a sinkhole".

It is probably a similar way to checking the depth of a lake. Would you like me to go and research it all for you? Why are you asking? lol
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Before sonar was invented they dropped a weight on the end of a rope and measured out the rope.
It still works.

What is really fucked up about this story, is that earlier this month they were saying there was butane stored in the salt dome. Now they are saying radioactive waste is tored there.

That's fucked up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21903530


The NORM is so insignificant it is moot, what the *REAL* issue is, is the potential for a BLEVE of biblical proportions...
 Quoting: EX-Coons-A$$ 22500582


If I understood what i read the other day, there are both a butane cave and a radioactive waste cave.
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Well that sounds like fun.
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***Snip**** from the Examiner
Too bad this sight doesn't have a highlighter affect.

'Worst nightmare coming true,' says attorney



If the butane in the sinkhole vicinity exploded, it would meet, according to the National Terror Alert, the definition of a dirty bomb.



"I sought an analysis of the recent DEQ test results from Waligora, who since a stint as a nuclear weapons officer in the U.S. military has been teaching, consulting and testifying as an expert witness in radiation litigation for more than 45 years," asserted Smith Friday.



He expressed concern that the state reported its findings of radium-226 and radium-228 as "below acceptable levels," when in fact, the results were 15 times higher than the state’s own standard for soil contamination.



“Well, once again the Louisiana DEQ is in denial because they don’t know what to do about the radioactive contamination in the Bayou Corne subsidence,” Waligora wrote, adding the following findings:



There are immediate radiation dose concerns, not only cumulative toxin concerns.



"The release could reach the usable aquifer and contaminate drinking water along with livestock and irrigated crops," Waligora says. "The DEQ must sample ground water to assess any transport. Airborne particulate might become entrained and cause contamination to be inhaled by the public. DEQ must collect air samples to assess the airborne radioactive particulate. Radon gas emanating from the radium could be inhaled by members of the public. DEQ needs to monitor airborne radon.



"A long range plan must be developed for remedial action. Funding should be provided by the oil companies that used the cavern for disposal," asserted Waligora.



Waligora reports being concerned about DEQ understating of the Bayou Corne risks because of what he has witnessed in other cases handled by the troubled agency:



"This is reminiscent of the illegal waste disposal that was discovered several years ago at St. Gabriel. The community complained about illegal disposal of radioactive waste. DEQ sent a team to investigate who determined that there was no problem. Complaints continued and a second DEQ team investigated and again said that there was no problem. Finally, a legal action attracted the EPA who found widespread contamination. The responsible party had no worth so the site was cleaned up with Superfund support. The cleanup took over one year and cost over $1million. Quite a bit for 'no problem.'”



Earlier this year, Smith joined the Louisiana Bucket Brigade in calling for the EPA to intervene and assume responsibility from DEQ because the agency was "overwhelmed and "in the back pocket of the businesses it’s supposed to be regulating."





"Although company officials informed the Louisiana Department of Natural Resources in early 2011 of significant problems at the cavern, local residents and authorities were not told of the risk even after they began complaining this summer of shaking homes and noxious orders," Smith says.



National Terror Alert (NTA) recently reported that due to recent terrorist events, people have expressed concern about a possible terrorist attack involving radioactive materials, possibly through the use of a “dirty bomb,” and the harmful effects of radiation from such an event.



The NTA developed a dirty bomb fact sheet including:



"A dirty bomb, or radiological dispersion device, is a bomb that combines conventional explosives, such as dynamite, with radioactive materials inthe form of powder or pellets. The idea behind a dirty bomb is to blast radioactive material into the area around the explosion. This could possibly cause buildings and people to be exposed to radioactive material. The main purpose of a dirty bomb is to frighten people and make buildings or land unusable for a long period of time.




"In Bayou Corne, we are witnessing our worst nightmares coming true," Smith asserted Friday. "It’s time for the EPA and other outside authorities to step in and make sure that proper testing is done and that emergency measures are carried out."



The sinkhole, now the size of three football fields, shaped like an upside-down Superdome Stadium, and filled with liquid slurry is blamed on Texas Brine Co.'s failed salt cavern near Bayou Corne.



"There’s no excuse for allowing this new Louisiana catastrophe to get any worse," Smith says.
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Before sonar was invented they dropped a weight on the end of a rope and measured out the rope.
It still works.

What is really fucked up about this story, is that earlier this month they were saying there was butane stored in the salt dome. Now they are saying radioactive waste is tored there.

That's fucked up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21903530


The NORM is so insignificant it is moot, what the *REAL* issue is, is the potential for a BLEVE of biblical proportions...
 Quoting: EX-Coons-A$$ 22500582


If I understood what i read the other day, there are both a butane cave and a radioactive waste cave.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21899127


Well that sounds like fun.
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I know what you mean, really scary if that thing blows...
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Sinkhole radiation 15 times over limit, residents urged to record health signs

Title of the article... just this is scary enough!!!!
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When you think about all the cover ups that the government has been doing there in Louisiana since the Oil/corexit situation, we have to understand that we WILL NOT BE TOLD THE TRUTH EVER!!!
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Every time I come to this thread things seem worse.
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Every time I come to this thread things seem worse.
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I say predictable!

And yes worse.

Predictable because deep pockets are in control, and this probably was known to be bad well before any signs started to appear. The attitude that was taken was "let's do this now and find out how to fix it later"!

This just like any thing else is safely just the facts of life.
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Every time I come to this thread things seem worse.
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Get used to it, the worst is yet to come...

If a catastrophic collapse of the Texas Brine dome occurs (which it appears to be well on it's way to doing), many other domes in the area will probably begin collapsing like dominos.

And, as I said long ago, and has still not happened, why are officials not saying who the radioactive material actually belongs to?
Nor the OWNER of the butane in the CrossTex dome?

And identify and release the names of what else are, and who owns, other assets AND MATERIALS in the area, and require them to give worst case reports. (and not accept SHAM reports like the 1 from CrossTex)

CrossTex should be investigated in my opinion for knowingly giving a misleading report which they were ordered to do.

How about ORDERING some neutral worst case reports from independent expert 3rd parties which index and identify other materials nearby, like in a ~25-mile minimum radius of the collapsing dome?

THEY NEED TO IMMEDIATELY NAME NAMES, LIST MATERIALS, AND GIVE REPORTS ON THE LIST OF WORST CASE SCENARIOS FOR EACH ASSET..



Remember Lake Peigneur!



[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"The whirlpool easily sucked up the $5 million Texaco drilling platform, a second drilling rig that was nearby, a tugboat, eleven barges from the canal, a barge loading dock, seventy acres of Jefferson Island and its botanical gardens, parts of greenhouses, a house trailer, trucks, tractors, a parking lot, tons of mud, trees, and who knows what else. A natural gas fire broke out where the Texaco well was being drilled. Let's not forget the estimated 1.5 billion gallons of water that seemed to magically drain down the hole"




[link to home.versatel.nl]
"The sinkhole grew so rapidly that a 50 foot waterfall formed where the Delcambre Canal reversed direction and flowed back into the newly formed crater. A large whirlpool formed in the lake, sucking down a second drilling rig, 11 barges and a tugboat. The tugboat at full throttle was unable to overcome the strong flow dragging it backwards down the canal into the sinkhole. After two days and an estimated 3.5 billion gallons of water draining in from the Gulf of Mexico, the lake refilled and stabilised. The lake that was once around 6 feet deep was now around 1300 feet deep, with the ecosystem radically altered by increased salt content."
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REAL SINKHOLE EFFECT ,... if you see this happening under your own feet ( filmed in Japan), the run !!!!!!!!

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as a point ov observation

could the pumping of water underground as used in the current system of pressurizing gas caverns, and fracking have been what caused noahs flood...seriously?

an interseting theory on where "noahs water" came from

[link to www.kjvbible.org]

same general levels of where the water resided
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Why don't you go find it out if you need to know so badly. Search on google "how to measure depth of a sinkhole".

It is probably a similar way to checking the depth of a lake. Would you like me to go and research it all for you? Why are you asking? lol
 Quoting: JayJ


Before sonar was invented they dropped a weight on the end of a rope and measured out the rope.
It still works.

What is really fucked up about this story, is that earlier this month they were saying there was butane stored in the salt dome. Now they are saying radioactive waste is tored there.

That's fucked up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21903530


The NORM is so insignificant it is moot, what the *REAL* issue is, is the potential for a BLEVE of biblical proportions...
 Quoting: EX-Coons-A$$ 22500582


If I understood what i read the other day, there are both a butane cave and a radioactive waste cave.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21899127


The salt dome with the butane is only 2000 feet away from the radioactive one.

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Before sonar was invented they dropped a weight on the end of a rope and measured out the rope.
It still works.

What is really fucked up about this story, is that earlier this month they were saying there was butane stored in the salt dome. Now they are saying radioactive waste is tored there.

That's fucked up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21903530


The NORM is so insignificant it is moot, what the *REAL* issue is, is the potential for a BLEVE of biblical proportions...
 Quoting: EX-Coons-A$$ 22500582


If I understood what i read the other day, there are both a butane cave and a radioactive waste cave.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21899127


The salt dome with the butane is only 2000 feet away from the radioactive one.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22538313

Actually, it's about 1,600-Ft, and then there is ANOTHER CrossTex dome just to the northeast about 600-Ft, and Natural Gas domes about the same distance off to the southeast:

Map: [link to dnr.louisiana.gov]


Please participate here if you will, so we can keep our discussions in a single thread model:

Thread: LOUISIANA SALT DOME COLLAPSE -- UPDATE THREAD #01 -- 24-AUG-2012
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EDIT:

yes that is a good first post with all the links!
but this is a good one here too.

Last Edited by psyoptics on 08/24/2012 11:46 PM
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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EDIT:

yes that is a good first post with all the links!
but this is a good one here too.
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Agreed this is a good thread, but this is an ongoing MAJOR event and cover up / media blackout.

I am a guest here, and I requested assistance in keeping this information and discussion (and the MANY threads on it) in an order so it could be easily followed, and lacking response, I took the initiative to do it myself.

I've owned and administrated internet forums for over 20-yrs, please, you being a very knowledgeable and respected registered participant here, take control of the threads regarding this matter, and precipitate chronological order, so the media can't cover it up, and the FACTS can be shared.

I'm sticking my neck out being an "insider", so please, take this over and I will share my knowledge and research in the discussions.

Suggest a new thread every 10 or so pages of posts, with the date and thread number in the titles.
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Before sonar was invented they dropped a weight on the end of a rope and measured out the rope.
It still works.

What is really fucked up about this story, is that earlier this month they were saying there was butane stored in the salt dome. Now they are saying radioactive waste is tored there.

That's fucked up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21903530


The NORM is so insignificant it is moot, what the *REAL* issue is, is the potential for a BLEVE of biblical proportions...
 Quoting: EX-Coons-A$$ 22500582


If I understood what i read the other day, there are both a butane cave and a radioactive waste cave.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21899127


The salt dome with the butane is only 2000 feet away from the radioactive one.

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Wow that is a little too close for comfort, and a very scary scenario.
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Thread: Don't make ASSUMPTIONS; try to Understand.
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