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Calling all Iconoclasts... Enter. The Truth of Our Origins.

 
citizenperth

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I somehow understood all of that. THankyou
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[link to abundanthope.net] now go here and spend a bit more than 2 hours. The truth of your origins has jack shit to do with bodies on this world. Your origin in the universal MIND. And not anything else.
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and birth is nothing more than another awakening.... new borns, as we all were, experience the same thing, as is death.... birth/death = fearful of the unknown, yet....

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OP,

Maybe this has been covered in the last 15 pages, but I'm curious as to who/what created the aliens?
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interventionist is the same as evolutionists! Both are the same religion of the Globalists eugenists.

in the end humans are scums in these scripture.

You can write what you want on humans origins.

There is no big bang, no alpha and omega. There is just the NOW, we exist and it is simply just that.
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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This is my new favorited thread and 5* for your tremendous effort to put all this into one thread.

You are truly an enlightened and amazing individual.

Peace to you friend:)
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

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Can you repeat the whole thing to me ind 25 words or less? Life is too short to read your BS story.
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yeah a yogi with her tata's flopping around .... classy
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You can always tell the angry chicks who have small ones.
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When you round infinity to transform it into something finite.

You create a lie.

When something comes into contact with nothing...It allows nothing to exist...

And nothing tries to become something but can't.

This creates the Universe...

If you round it off there...that's it.

But you can tie it all to Truth which is infinite and Truth supplies the demand of lies to sustain their existence for as long as possible.

As long as Truth exists...lies are eternal

Lies are nothing and Truth is something.

For a limited amount of time...forever.

There is never a lasting victory over lies while the war against Truth has no exit strategy and always ends in defeat.
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So many questions and probable answers maybe it wasn't the creator that was god but the act of the creation. manifested I this reality we may be next as creators or inhancers.
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KENYON: After the sexual assault Aidan ran from the room. He told another priest what had happened. But instead of going to
the authorities the priests invoked one of the most powerful tenets of the Catholic faith - To bar Aidan or his abuser from
ever speaking out.
DOYLE: He said to me 'I'm going to apply the seal of confession to you, so that you must never talk about this, and it will
be kept secret.' And I remember saying that that evening. That why should I have to keep quiet about something that I
hadn't initiated?
KENYON: Aidan didn't know it, but an oath of silence was part of the secret church decree called 'crimen sollicitationis'
(crime of solicitation). The directive was written in 1962, and Catholic bishops worldwide are ordered to keep it locked
away in the church safe. It instructs them on how to deal with priests who solicit sex from the confessional. But it also
deals with any obscene external acts with youths of either sex. Child abuse. Originally written in Latin it imposes the
strictest oath of secrecy on the child victim, the priest dealing with the allegation, and any witnesses. Breaking that oath
means instant banishment from the Catholic Church - excommunication.
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In contrast, Interventionists like me and my hero
Lloyd Pye, anchor our search for origins on
evidence rather than faith, on logic rather
than magic. We don’t think that God did it,
or that life spontaneously generated.

For us, evidence and logic point to the same
“outside intervention” Intelligent Designers
see. However, where they feel the only outside
source of intervention must be God (whom they
are careful to not mention by name), we suggest
another, bolder explanation: “They did it!”

Who are “They”? The currently favored term is
Aliens—non-human, non-Earth-based entities.
With Lloyd Pye's permission to cliff most
of his material, I will try to make a valid
point... That we, as a species are in
fact an oddball of mother nature.
Quoted OP.


You have all of that wrong too OP, all of it above and your posting after that. YOU COME FROM CREATOR and not any other source and you are confusing bodies with who you really are. What the fuck does the lable "interventionist mean?" your one and only label should be I AM THAT I AM. NOTHING MORE< other than society words like momma, pappa, aunty etc
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22879989


you can think like this God created everything, including sheeps, but humans can intervene on the genetics of a sheep. if we do that we can be considered interventionists. this is what lloyd pye says, he is supported by mauro biglino as well.
[link to www.maurobiglino.com]
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In contrast, Interventionists like me and my hero
Lloyd Pye, anchor our search for origins on
evidence rather than faith, on logic rather
than magic. We don’t think that God did it,
or that life spontaneously generated.

For us, evidence and logic point to the same
“outside intervention” Intelligent Designers
see. However, where they feel the only outside
source of intervention must be God (whom they
are careful to not mention by name), we suggest
another, bolder explanation: “They did it!”

Who are “They”? The currently favored term is
Aliens—non-human, non-Earth-based entities.
With Lloyd Pye's permission to cliff most
of his material, I will try to make a valid
point... That we, as a species are in
fact an oddball of mother nature.
Quoted OP.


You have all of that wrong too OP, all of it above and your posting after that. YOU COME FROM CREATOR and not any other source and you are confusing bodies with who you really are. What the fuck does the lable "interventionist mean?" your one and only label should be I AM THAT I AM. NOTHING MORE< other than society words like momma, pappa, aunty etc
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22879989


you can think like this God created everything, including sheeps, but humans can intervene on the genetics of a sheep. if we do that we can be considered interventionists. this is what lloyd pye says, he is supported by mauro biglino as well.
[link to www.maurobiglino.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24937410


interventionist is the new name for transhumanist... Because people discovered that eugenists were the same as transhumanist. in short throw all that in the evolution bag!
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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In contrast, Interventionists like me and my hero
Lloyd Pye, anchor our search for origins on
evidence rather than faith, on logic rather
than magic. We don’t think that God did it,
or that life spontaneously generated.

For us, evidence and logic point to the same
“outside intervention” Intelligent Designers
see. However, where they feel the only outside
source of intervention must be God (whom they
are careful to not mention by name), we suggest
another, bolder explanation: “They did it!”

Who are “They”? The currently favored term is
Aliens—non-human, non-Earth-based entities.
With Lloyd Pye's permission to cliff most
of his material, I will try to make a valid
point... That we, as a species are in
fact an oddball of mother nature.
Quoted OP.


You have all of that wrong too OP, all of it above and your posting after that. YOU COME FROM CREATOR and not any other source and you are confusing bodies with who you really are. What the fuck does the lable "interventionist mean?" your one and only label should be I AM THAT I AM. NOTHING MORE< other than society words like momma, pappa, aunty etc
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22879989


you can think like this God created everything, including sheeps, but humans can intervene on the genetics of a sheep. if we do that we can be considered interventionists. this is what lloyd pye says, he is supported by mauro biglino as well.
[link to www.maurobiglino.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24937410


interventionist is the new name for transhumanist... Because people discovered that eugenists were the same as transhumanist. in short throw all that in the evolution bag!
 Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker


what will happen when we will improve our own genetics?
will there be a limit?
Blitz the storm-striker

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In contrast, Interventionists like me and my hero
Lloyd Pye, anchor our search for origins on
evidence rather than faith, on logic rather
than magic. We don’t think that God did it,
or that life spontaneously generated.

For us, evidence and logic point to the same
“outside intervention” Intelligent Designers
see. However, where they feel the only outside
source of intervention must be God (whom they
are careful to not mention by name), we suggest
another, bolder explanation: “They did it!”

Who are “They”? The currently favored term is
Aliens—non-human, non-Earth-based entities.
With Lloyd Pye's permission to cliff most
of his material, I will try to make a valid
point... That we, as a species are in
fact an oddball of mother nature.
Quoted OP.


You have all of that wrong too OP, all of it above and your posting after that. YOU COME FROM CREATOR and not any other source and you are confusing bodies with who you really are. What the fuck does the lable "interventionist mean?" your one and only label should be I AM THAT I AM. NOTHING MORE< other than society words like momma, pappa, aunty etc
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22879989


you can think like this God created everything, including sheeps, but humans can intervene on the genetics of a sheep. if we do that we can be considered interventionists. this is what lloyd pye says, he is supported by mauro biglino as well.
[link to www.maurobiglino.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24937410


interventionist is the new name for transhumanist... Because people discovered that eugenists were the same as transhumanist. in short throw all that in the evolution bag!
 Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker


what will happen when we will improve our own genetics?
will there be a limit?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24937410


you do not improve genetics with logic! You let Genetics improve your logic!

It means give it time! Logic is the result of all that you have learned and experianced! Based on that if you use that Limited Logic to mess with something as hazardous as genetics you might do unrepairable damage!

That's what the Gray's did to their Dna! Do you want to look like them? Slimmy Gray skinned with 2 big almond shape eyes? They screwed their Dna big time!
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
DoubleHelix

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Where is OP with his update?

I suppose he is still working on it?
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I don't know about grays. but in order to improve your genetics you must use logic. otherwise you will make errors, like sumerian "myths" say. anyway as neil de grasse asks:
'if the difference between us and monkyes in DNA is only 1-2%, and because of that we can go to the moon while they are as they are, what would a being with a DNA difference of 3-4% be able to do?'
if we start modifying our own genetics humanity as we know it will disappear. we, humans from now, will be only a link. not the missing one though:))).
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I wonder why this thread is pinned.

I have all the answers you are looking for.

This universe is a virtual reality.

God is a woman and Jesus was Her husband.

You can read the evidence in the links below.
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Great post Heretic!! very interesting, keep up the great work and thank you
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OP,

Maybe this has been covered in the last 15 pages, but I'm curious as to who/what created the aliens?
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I was wondering the same thing. Every time someone says aliens created humans they just leave it at that. It's like saying ta-da all questions answered the same way people say god poofed us into existence. Who made the aliens, who created the creators? Where does it all start?
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OP,

Maybe this has been covered in the last 15 pages, but I'm curious as to who/what created the aliens?
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I was wondering the same thing. Every time someone says aliens created humans they just leave it at that. It's like saying ta-da all questions answered the same way people say god poofed us into existence. Who made the aliens, who created the creators? Where does it all start?
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In Genesis 1:26 God suggests that we live in a virtual reality with the words: "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness." On Simulation-argument.com Professor Nick Bostrom argues that at least one of the following must be true:
- The human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a posthuman stage.
- Any posthuman civilisation is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history (or variations thereof).
- We are almost certainly living in a computer simulation.

The Bible indicates that the world was created around 6,000 years ago in six days. Establishing the age of Earth is impossible because of the absence of objective reality. Scientific analysis of available artefacts on the ground suggests that Earth has evolved in billions of years. However a writing system was first developed around 5,500 years ago in Mesopotamia, just a few hundred years after Earth has been created according to The Bible. It may not be a coincidence that no written records of human history exist from before this time. Coincidentally Mesopotamia is also the location where the Garden of Eden must have been. Eve and Adam may still have been alive when a writing system was first developed, so there is a good chance that the story of Eve and Adam was already written down at that time and included later in Genesis.

Based on the information we have now, accident and evolution are the most likely causes of human existence. If there is unlimited time and space then there are unlimited possibilities. Human existence is a possible outcome of a process that lasted billions of years in a universe of billions of light-years in size. DNA shows traces of random development suggesting evolution.

Because of the existence of missing links in the fossil record of species the evidence for evolution is not conclusive, but those missing links may still be discovered in the future. However the concept of evolution contradicts with reincarnation. Therefore the big bang theory as an explanation for the origin of our universe and evolution as an explanation for the origin of species in this universe has become in doubt. The materialist big bang and evolution theories imply that a spirit resides in the body and dies with it.

Probably God is part of an advanced civilisation that came into existence by chance and evolution. Creating humans in the image of God therefore means copying humans from God's own world into an imaginary world called Creation. The word image implies that the species are copied and not designed. The copying of images included a fossil record of previous species.

The artefacts suggesting that our universe has evolved in billions of years are the result of The Programme creating a starting point for history to begin with. The transition from the setup phase of the programme called Creation, and the run phase of the programme called history may never be traceable. The Programme is responsible for simulating all physical, chemical and biological laws and evolution in the virtual world. The Programme is so advanced that it simulates human behaviour in detail.
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hey settle4it and saddletramp, you made this a great thread. thx for the information!
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hfbumphf
If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

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Conduit Opening.
If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill.

Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all.
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Conduit Opening.
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conduit closing
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Conduit Opening.
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conduit closing
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Request Denied.
If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill.

Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all.





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