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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22739561 United States 08/28/2012 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if I can ever portray what truley boggles Quoting: Heretic_333 my mind, so please listen to what I have to say glp. Through the endless gauntlet of hurricanes, near death experiences, freak deletions of my posts, I will try To provide GLP with a very important origins post. Please understand how much I have went though to create this. I more than likely will lose power in less than 48 hrs. In posts like this I generally brush people up On what's accepted, then show proof of contradiction. With the wind increasing in velocity, and decreasing in temperature, I will get straight to the point. Everything you know is WRONG. The government is corrupt. Science is invalid. And religion is irrational. Focus. Truth Seeker... When you seek a path to any new truth, you must expect to find it blocked by ‘expert opinion.’ Albert Guérard An emotional plague afflicts people whose belief systems are so rigid they ignore relevant facts and become enraged if anyone challenges their beliefs. Wilhelm Reich When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads. Ron Paul For every PhD., there is an equal and opposite PhD. Gibson’s Law Anyone can pilot an improbability, but it takes a special touch to fly and safely land an absurdity. Kurt Kuzba A genius is someone who aims at a target no one else can see—and hits it! Anthony Quinn The main purpose of science is to investigate the unexplained, not to explain the uninvestigated. Dr. Stephen Rorke You can sum up the entirety of this document as being the answer to the question.. "If Bigfoot exists, along with 3 other types, then if all 4 early "prehuman" bones belong to them... How did we get here? PLEASE NOTE: We supposedly evolved from four types of "prehumans" Now, thousands of reports every year from all over the world make very clear 4 pertinent distinctions in appearance of these bipedal hair covered creatures. Let me be very clear... This contradiction has the potential to bring everything we know about Primate Evolution to a bone jarring, teeth shattering halt. Hominoids are one of two “fantasy” creatures that can dismantle Evolutionary Theory in one fell swoop (off-world aliens are the other). The day a hominoid is presented to the world for analysis—dead or alive—is the day science can no longer prop up its evolutionary dogma. When macroevolution clatters into history’s dustbin, Divine Creation and Intelligent Design will follow right behind it. Intervention Theory will become the most plausible explanation for how humans and all life came to be on Earth. The supreme arrogance of religious thinking is that a carbon-based bag of mostly water on a speck of ironsilicate dust around a boring dwarf star in a minor galaxy in an unfashionable suburb of (our) supercluster would look up at the sky and declare: “It was all made so that I could exist!” Peter Walker Statements made by alternative researchers like me are automatically contradicted by scientists insisting we are not simply wrong, but stupidly wrong. They further insist we have no right to challenge their cherished beliefs because our only “credentials” are an unwarranted faith in our ability to discern truth from nonsense. [This doesn’t refer to all scientists. Some still willingly risk reputation and security to explore topics that defy dogma. However, they are few.] Every point I discuss is supported by facts in available research, but I am often criticized by skeptics. Why? Because the issues I discuss are long-lived sacred cows to mainstream sciences. Creationists of all kinds, which includes the smarter, more reasonable, and typically wellcredentialed Intelligent Design proponents, insist the only answer to questions about the origins of life or humans is: “God did it!” Darwinists of all stripes insist with equal zeal that their pet theory of evolution best explains how life originated. Their 150-year-old dogma asserts: “It just happened—poof!—like magic!” After the magic moment when life kick-started itself into existence, it initiated a self-contained and imperceptibly slow-but-steady growth into ever more complex forms, until those reached the apex of an arduous climb—humanity. In contrast, Interventionists like me and my hero Lloyd Pye, anchor our search for origins on evidence rather than faith, on logic rather than magic. We don’t think that God did it, or that life spontaneously generated. For us, evidence and logic point to the same “outside intervention” Intelligent Designers see. However, where they feel the only outside source of intervention must be God (whom they are careful to not mention by name), we suggest another, bolder explanation: “They did it!” Who are “They”? The currently favored term is Aliens—non-human, non-Earth-based entities. With Lloyd Pye's permission to cliff most of his material, I will try to make a valid point... That we, as a species are in fact an oddball of mother nature. The sad truth is that in every field of science, Young Turks have to serve their leaders when those leaders are the oldest, crustiest, and most conservative members of the field. Then, when those old “defenders of the faith” die out, what were once Young Turks take over for them and are forced to defend the same bankrupt faith. Now, what about the origin of life? When did it occur? How did it occur? The mainstream gives two options and rejects a third: (1) They accept as a possibility Undirected Panspermia. This is the idea that life “drifts” across space carried on asteroids or meteors that crashed into Earth. (2) They support the idea that life originates by Spontaneous Generation. This idea is that life was created by sheer chance when a lightning bolt struck a “warm pond” (a term coined by Charles Darwin) filled with what came to be called “primordial soup,” a form of witches’ brew containing the “building blocks” of life. Experts insist that somehow, someway, those original molecules managed to spontaneously reassemble into ever more complex molecules that somehow, someway, formed themselves into the single cells of the earliest life forms. The fact that spontaneous self-assembly into complex molecules does not happen now, nor can it be forced to happen in coherent patterns in the most sophisticated laboratories on Earth, should be an indication that this theory, like the gravity-based one of cosmologists, needs work. British astrophysicist Fred Hoyle summed up the problem neatly when he said the likelihood of a lightning bolt striking water to assemble simple molecules into a life form was equal to the likelihood of a tornado sweeping through a junkyard and correctly assembling a jetliner. The third option, which the mainstream rejects, is Directed Panspermia, which is similar to undirected Panspermia, except that the first life forms were guided here by higher intelligence. Thus, the mainstream hangs its hat on a miracle worthy of God when a lightning bolt struck the “primordial soup” to forge basic molecules into simple life—or on a similarly unlikely miracle that simple life forms came here on meteors. The lightning-bolt-hits-primordial-soup theory is still taught around the world, but not because mainstream scientists regard it seriously. They know as well as anyone how absurd it sounds. Unfortunately, they have no choice but to fake conviction about it because they have no other theory to take its place. Some few scientists do admit they have no plausible idea, but most of them insist on riding the same old lame horse. Like the equations of the cosmologists, which required “miracles” to make sense, the same is true for biologists. The same kinds of miracles are fudge-factored in to explain life, when they have answers that are as easy to grasp as the difference between gravity and electricity. In the same way cosmologists stick with the mistake of gravity, biology’s mistake, the core of its ossified dogma, is that every aspect of life on Earth must be accounted for in a “natural” manner, in strictly terrestrial terms. To explain life by using “outside” factors is unacceptable, so alternate ideas are automatically discounted. Its like the "Guilty until proven Innocent" of science. Despite automatic rejection, alternative ideas for the origin of life make a much stronger case than biological dogma. Such ideas also hew far more closely to the actual facts of life than do the fantasies created by imaginative scientists. Life did not start by accident when lightning struck a warm pond of primordial soup. Its start was so unlikely, experts can’t begin to explain it rationally, so rather than try, they obscure The Dawn of Sumer. The first great city of the Human species. The Darwinian paradigm of simplicity, which leads to ever more complexity, states that we should be crawling out of the caves on bloody hands and knees thousands of years ago. This doesn't appear to be the case... We come sailing out and build lavish cities. 1000's of world firsts... First high-rise buildings, walls, roads, wheeled vehicles, ocean going vessels, agriculture, animal husbandry, laws, education, schools, court systems, and the only one mainstream gives them credit for which is literature. We are all taught we come from the Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans. It is clear they are all byproducts of Sumer. We are only told the people of Sumer invent writing, and case closed. They never speak or teach about the things they wrote, or how sophisticated they really were, because it doesn't fit the current model of our progression of intelligence. Even though things like their decimal system called Sexsadecimal, is clearly more advanced than the Dewey when dealing with very large and small numbers. So in the late 1800's when we were translating what these guys had to say, the "myth" pile had gotten larger and larger. A man named Zechariah Sitchin, who we all know went about his work in an all or nothing fashion asked the great question... "Who hands the myth to the first civilization" In the 50's he jumped into the myth pile and published a dozen books labeled the Earth Chronicles Series. For all of you who just seen the name Sitchin, and have your paste of the link sitchiniswrong.com ready to post, I humbly request you provide yourself an opportunity for advancement, and at least read what I have to say before jumping to conclusions. Lloyd Pye's Defense Of Sitchin. Anyone who says Zecharia Sitchin is a fraud or mistaken in his translations of Sumerian texts, or anything in that vein, is busily grinding a heavily worn axe. They base all of their complaints on the fact that in certain key areas of the Sumerian writings, he deviates markedly from the "classical" translations, the vast majority of which were completed before 1947, before the terms "UFO" or "alien" came into common usage. When the early translators came upon passages that could have been and should have been interpreted the way Sitchin interpreted them, they had no conceivable frame of reference for such terminology. Thus, they shoehorned it to fit into their own restricted world views, and because this nonsense was created by "experts" of that time, modern experts have inevitably been brainwashed by their education process to believe that no other translation is needed, much less preferable. This intellectual claptrap has become established as the "preferred" and "accepted" translations that critics claim Stichin should have respected and stuck with in the way they are obligated to do. Sitchin rightly jettisoned the nonsense and translated the texts more like they were actually written, calling an alien an alien, so to speak, and this gross offense to modern academic sensibilities is what classic scholars considera sacrilege to their mindset. I have no doubt that, in the fullness of time, historians will consider Zecharia Sitchin vastly more correct than any mainstream pundit in alive at this moment. Why? Because modern scholars endure years of intense training to consider the work of prior scholars sancrosanct, which turns out a virtual army of close-minded sycophants who, ultimately, will be dismissed as the laughable fools they are. That being said, today we will go over the origins of life from the Sumerian perspective. They have many things they wrote about, but their story of our cosmology at around 4 billion years ago is very interesting to say the least. They had our Solar system documented with Pluto as a moon of Saturn, A planet called Tiamat in the asteroid belt area, and the big no-no of shills everywhere, Nibiru, who is captured by the sun in an elliptical 3600 year clockwise orbit like a comet. The Enuma E'Lish. The 6 tablets of action, 1 tablet of summation,(Taken by many as the 6 days of creation and the one day of rest) plausibly answers at least a half of dozen great mysteries surrounding our cosmogony. A planet going clockwise opposed to our counterclockwise neighborhood has the potential of some serious Doom folks. Although they describe Nibiru knocking into Tiamat at one point in time, its last several passings have been further and further away. So no I don't side with the Nibiru Doom gang, but I am going to say that the collision itself answers a lot of questions surrounding modern astronomy and Earth geology. In the collision of planets Nibiru and Tiamat, Nibiru due to it being, colder, larger, and older, it held itself together. Meanwhile Tiamat was torn in half, but not completely obliterated. Just cracked open like an eggshell. Those very few moments answers several of the most puzzling questions known to man. The asteroid belt. Volumes of inner viscous magma seeped out and established what the Sumerians called the "hammered bracelet" and Tiamat having been illustrated being originally positioned in the crux of the asteroid belt, we can simply postulate the collision knocked it into a new orbit, leaving all the magma to cool and solidify into what we know call the asteroid belt. Comets. In a linear solar system, where the primordial cloud of dust and gas flattens out into a pancake, comets have no right to come from all over the place. Mainstreamers may speak of the Oort cloud, but that is the biggest joke out there (no pun intended), because comets are made of water. You don't make water in the middle of a vacuum. You make water being a cooling, condensing planet. The collision described in the epic answers how they were removed out into the solar system. Tectonic plates. The lighter outer crust being torn off, and half of the planet oozing out its bowels, we all know what happens to liquids in a vacuum. It makes the smallest tightest ball it can. So you now hopefully have a new perspective on why we have moving plates, just imagine the Earth not completely solidified from the initial collision around 4 billion years ago. Pluto. You all heard we're downgrading the planetoid. It also shares the same fate of comets, it is 17 degrees off of the ecliptic. NOTHING should be off of the ecliptic. The Epic illustrated Pluto being a moon of Saturn, till it was whisked away during Nibiru's approach to the inner solar system. Jesus this only took 5 hrs.. The more I try perfecting my "Truth of Our Origins" series, the further and further away to completion. During this post alone, I completed the final draft, only to press the shift button for my internet to close without reason, losing my entire post. I also started a second copy which was also deleted due to me spilling my drink all over my laptop because of a freak lightning strike. Even now I am writing this post via cellphone because my I Internet simply does not work any more. Basically the importance of this thread, which I find absolute, is going through the worst symptoms of diminishing returns I have ever witnessed, let alone created. Having redo-ed almost 5 times, in shorter more mediocre paragraphs, I have pulled out all the stops, finishing this on my phone. I will finish upgrading this post later. dont waste your battery here with this we all read it allready |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58109 United States 08/28/2012 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do I get the nagging suspicion we are about to be LIED to AGAIN? When history repeats itself, do we listen? Oh no, this time it is different and about aliens. Yeah right, buddy. They have indoctrinated us since before the fifties for this BIG lie coming up. Who to believe? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22573986 United States 08/28/2012 01:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do we need a beginning and an end? It obviously isn't there. Yet everything we see, hear, feel, and touch, has a beginning and an end. Makes me think that everything we see, hear, feel, and touch, is a lie. We aren't seeing what's really there. And our brains interpretations of the wave frequency patterns vibrating in our universe are our own worse enemies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18788570 United States 08/28/2012 01:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do I get the nagging suspicion we are about to be LIED to AGAIN? When history repeats itself, do we listen? Oh no, this time it is different and about aliens. Yeah right, buddy. They have indoctrinated us since before the fifties for this BIG lie coming up. Who to believe? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58109 Yeah, the intelligent design proponents were right all along, they just got the "creator" wrong. Could the scientists be wrong AGAIN???? |
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(OP) User ID: 5555119 United States 08/28/2012 01:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Totally! I'm enjoying the heck out of this thread. Heretic is one of the few writers on this forum that really captures my interest. His threads are always interesting and though provoking. I appreciate it fellas. As soon as I receive a few more karma's. I will have plenty more coming down the pipe. Believe it!! =) If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie? I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill. Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14965559 United States 08/28/2012 01:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've always thought that the fact that we can't comprehend a universe without end, shows us, very specifically, that our way of thinking is very primitive and incorrect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22573986 Why do we need a beginning and an end? It obviously isn't there. Yet everything we see, hear, feel, and touch, has a beginning and an end. Makes me think that everything we see, hear, feel, and touch, is a lie. We aren't seeing what's really there. And our brains interpretations of the wave frequency patterns vibrating in our universe are our own worse enemies. There is no such thing as solid matter. Only vibrating sound, and free flowing energy. I must admit though, I began to question that idea when I once ran into the goal post while playing football. It certainly felt solid to me! |
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(OP) User ID: 5555119 United States 08/28/2012 01:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "When you seek a path to any new truth, you must Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22623897 expect to find it blocked by ‘expert opinion.’ Albert Guérard" It was once said the Earth was flat. Then it was found to be round. how can you say science is invalid? "4 pertinent distinctions in appearance of these bipedal hair covered creatures." Way to turn it's into a religious thing... Also, I count you saying "I" and Me" over fifty times. Way to be self deluded. Science is invalid because it has a "guilty until proven innocent" aspect. It will be taught that the world is no doubt flat, until someone can prove otherwise. The world will be taught that the world is flat. Flat being 100% truth, because nothing else can take it's place. Science labeling a fact "subject to change" is damn near sacrilegious. Last Edited by Heretic_333 on 08/28/2012 01:54 AM If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie? I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill. Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18835047 United States 08/28/2012 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was just about to complain about that, but I didn't want to have to re-quote it just to bitch at you for quoting it. OP, you need to buy a car battery and an inverter to run your computer on in hard times. And, thank you for your research. Marked for later... |
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(OP) User ID: 5555119 United States 08/28/2012 01:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great post OP. I cant but wonder though; If this is the truth of our origins, then do our creators have a creator? Just a thought... Quoting: Lemaus A good thought. If they are real, and if they did in fact develop life and/or humans on Earth, then who are they? And who created them? This leads to an endless hall of mirrors echoing the same impossible-to answer question: Who are their creators??? This brings up what is known as First Cause, the starting place for all of everything—of life and existence itself. No human actually knows anything about it, and we probably never will. I don’t know, religion doesn’t, and scientists certainly don’t. Yet those institutions are forced by their intense rivalry for hearts and minds to pretend that they actually do know the answer. Don’t believe either side. Religion and science stand eyeball-to-eyeball and are too frightened to blink, much less acknowledge any doubts or weaknesses in their propaganda. But, luckily, I don’t have those restrictions. I can busy myself trying to discover what is actually knowable. If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie? I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill. Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2121030 United Kingdom 08/28/2012 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if I can ever portray what truley boggles Quoting: Heretic_333 my mind, so please listen to what I have to say glp. Through the endless gauntlet of hurricanes, near death experiences, freak deletions of my posts, I will try To provide GLP with a very important origins post. Please understand how much I have went though to create this. I more than likely will lose power in less than 48 hrs. In posts like this I generally brush people up On what's accepted, then show proof of contradiction. With the wind increasing in velocity, and decreasing in temperature, I will get straight to the point. Everything you know is WRONG. The government is corrupt. Science is invalid. And religion is irrational. Focus. Truth Seeker... When you seek a path to any new truth, you must expect to find it blocked by ‘expert opinion.’ Albert Guérard An emotional plague afflicts people whose belief systems are so rigid they ignore relevant facts and become enraged if anyone challenges their beliefs. Wilhelm Reich When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads. Ron Paul For every PhD., there is an equal and opposite PhD. Gibson’s Law Anyone can pilot an improbability, but it takes a special touch to fly and safely land an absurdity. Kurt Kuzba A genius is someone who aims at a target no one else can see—and hits it! Anthony Quinn The main purpose of science is to investigate the unexplained, not to explain the uninvestigated. Dr. Stephen Rorke You can sum up the entirety of this document as being the answer to the question.. "If Bigfoot exists, along with 3 other types, then if all 4 early "prehuman" bones belong to them... How did we get here? PLEASE NOTE: We supposedly evolved from four types of "prehumans" Now, thousands of reports every year from all over the world make very clear 4 pertinent distinctions in appearance of these bipedal hair covered creatures. Let me be very clear... This contradiction has the potential to bring everything we know about Primate Evolution to a bone jarring, teeth shattering halt. Hominoids are one of two “fantasy” creatures that can dismantle Evolutionary Theory in one fell swoop (off-world aliens are the other). The day a hominoid is presented to the world for analysis—dead or alive—is the day science can no longer prop up its evolutionary dogma. When macroevolution clatters into history’s dustbin, Divine Creation and Intelligent Design will follow right behind it. Intervention Theory will become the most plausible explanation for how humans and all life came to be on Earth. The supreme arrogance of religious thinking is that a carbon-based bag of mostly water on a speck of ironsilicate dust around a boring dwarf star in a minor galaxy in an unfashionable suburb of (our) supercluster would look up at the sky and declare: “It was all made so that I could exist!” Peter Walker Statements made by alternative researchers like me are automatically contradicted by scientists insisting we are not simply wrong, but stupidly wrong. They further insist we have no right to challenge their cherished beliefs because our only “credentials” are an unwarranted faith in our ability to discern truth from nonsense. [This doesn’t refer to all scientists. Some still willingly risk reputation and security to explore topics that defy dogma. However, they are few.] Every point I discuss is supported by facts in available research, but I am often criticized by skeptics. Why? Because the issues I discuss are long-lived sacred cows to mainstream sciences. Creationists of all kinds, which includes the smarter, more reasonable, and typically wellcredentialed Intelligent Design proponents, insist the only answer to questions about the origins of life or humans is: “God did it!” Darwinists of all stripes insist with equal zeal that their pet theory of evolution best explains how life originated. Their 150-year-old dogma asserts: “It just happened—poof!—like magic!” After the magic moment when life kick-started itself into existence, it initiated a self-contained and imperceptibly slow-but-steady growth into ever more complex forms, until those reached the apex of an arduous climb—humanity. In contrast, Interventionists like me and my hero Lloyd Pye, anchor our search for origins on evidence rather than faith, on logic rather than magic. We don’t think that God did it, or that life spontaneously generated. For us, evidence and logic point to the same “outside intervention” Intelligent Designers see. However, where they feel the only outside source of intervention must be God (whom they are careful to not mention by name), we suggest another, bolder explanation: “They did it!” Who are “They”? The currently favored term is Aliens—non-human, non-Earth-based entities. With Lloyd Pye's permission to cliff most of his material, I will try to make a valid point... That we, as a species are in fact an oddball of mother nature. The sad truth is that in every field of science, Young Turks have to serve their leaders when those leaders are the oldest, crustiest, and most conservative members of the field. Then, when those old “defenders of the faith” die out, what were once Young Turks take over for them and are forced to defend the same bankrupt faith. Now, what about the origin of life? When did it occur? How did it occur? The mainstream gives two options and rejects a third: (1) They accept as a possibility Undirected Panspermia. This is the idea that life “drifts” across space carried on asteroids or meteors that crashed into Earth. (2) They support the idea that life originates by Spontaneous Generation. This idea is that life was created by sheer chance when a lightning bolt struck a “warm pond” (a term coined by Charles Darwin) filled with what came to be called “primordial soup,” a form of witches’ brew containing the “building blocks” of life. Experts insist that somehow, someway, those original molecules managed to spontaneously reassemble into ever more complex molecules that somehow, someway, formed themselves into the single cells of the earliest life forms. The fact that spontaneous self-assembly into complex molecules does not happen now, nor can it be forced to happen in coherent patterns in the most sophisticated laboratories on Earth, should be an indication that this theory, like the gravity-based one of cosmologists, needs work. British astrophysicist Fred Hoyle summed up the problem neatly when he said the likelihood of a lightning bolt striking water to assemble simple molecules into a life form was equal to the likelihood of a tornado sweeping through a junkyard and correctly assembling a jetliner. The third option, which the mainstream rejects, is Directed Panspermia, which is similar to undirected Panspermia, except that the first life forms were guided here by higher intelligence. Thus, the mainstream hangs its hat on a miracle worthy of God when a lightning bolt struck the “primordial soup” to forge basic molecules into simple life—or on a similarly unlikely miracle that simple life forms came here on meteors. The lightning-bolt-hits-primordial-soup theory is still taught around the world, but not because mainstream scientists regard it seriously. They know as well as anyone how absurd it sounds. Unfortunately, they have no choice but to fake conviction about it because they have no other theory to take its place. Some few scientists do admit they have no plausible idea, but most of them insist on riding the same old lame horse. Like the equations of the cosmologists, which required “miracles” to make sense, the same is true for biologists. The same kinds of miracles are fudge-factored in to explain life, when they have answers that are as easy to grasp as the difference between gravity and electricity. In the same way cosmologists stick with the mistake of gravity, biology’s mistake, the core of its ossified dogma, is that every aspect of life on Earth must be accounted for in a “natural” manner, in strictly terrestrial terms. To explain life by using “outside” factors is unacceptable, so alternate ideas are automatically discounted. Its like the "Guilty until proven Innocent" of science. Despite automatic rejection, alternative ideas for the origin of life make a much stronger case than biological dogma. Such ideas also hew far more closely to the actual facts of life than do the fantasies created by imaginative scientists. Life did not start by accident when lightning struck a warm pond of primordial soup. Its start was so unlikely, experts can’t begin to explain it rationally, so rather than try, they obscure The Dawn of Sumer. The first great city of the Human species. The Darwinian paradigm of simplicity, which leads to ever more complexity, states that we should be crawling out of the caves on bloody hands and knees thousands of years ago. This doesn't appear to be the case... We come sailing out and build lavish cities. 1000's of world firsts... First high-rise buildings, walls, roads, wheeled vehicles, ocean going vessels, agriculture, animal husbandry, laws, education, schools, court systems, and the only one mainstream gives them credit for which is literature. We are all taught we come from the Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans. It is clear they are all byproducts of Sumer. We are only told the people of Sumer invent writing, and case closed. They never speak or teach about the things they wrote, or how sophisticated they really were, because it doesn't fit the current model of our progression of intelligence. Even though things like their decimal system called Sexsadecimal, is clearly more advanced than the Dewey when dealing with very large and small numbers. So in the late 1800's when we were translating what these guys had to say, the "myth" pile had gotten larger and larger. A man named Zechariah Sitchin, who we all know went about his work in an all or nothing fashion asked the great question... "Who hands the myth to the first civilization" In the 50's he jumped into the myth pile and published a dozen books labeled the Earth Chronicles Series. For all of you who just seen the name Sitchin, and have your paste of the link sitchiniswrong.com ready to post, I humbly request you provide yourself an opportunity for advancement, and at least read what I have to say before jumping to conclusions. Lloyd Pye's Defense Of Sitchin. Anyone who says Zecharia Sitchin is a fraud or mistaken in his translations of Sumerian texts, or anything in that vein, is busily grinding a heavily worn axe. They base all of their complaints on the fact that in certain key areas of the Sumerian writings, he deviates markedly from the "classical" translations, the vast majority of which were completed before 1947, before the terms "UFO" or "alien" came into common usage. When the early translators came upon passages that could have been and should have been interpreted the way Sitchin interpreted them, they had no conceivable frame of reference for such terminology. Thus, they shoehorned it to fit into their own restricted world views, and because this nonsense was created by "experts" of that time, modern experts have inevitably been brainwashed by their education process to believe that no other translation is needed, much less preferable. This intellectual claptrap has become established as the "preferred" and "accepted" translations that critics claim Stichin should have respected and stuck with in the way they are obligated to do. Sitchin rightly jettisoned the nonsense and translated the texts more like they were actually written, calling an alien an alien, so to speak, and this gross offense to modern academic sensibilities is what classic scholars considera sacrilege to their mindset. I have no doubt that, in the fullness of time, historians will consider Zecharia Sitchin vastly more correct than any mainstream pundit in alive at this moment. Why? Because modern scholars endure years of intense training to consider the work of prior scholars sancrosanct, which turns out a virtual army of close-minded sycophants who, ultimately, will be dismissed as the laughable fools they are. That being said, today we will go over the origins of life from the Sumerian perspective. They have many things they wrote about, but their story of our cosmology at around 4 billion years ago is very interesting to say the least. They had our Solar system documented with Pluto as a moon of Saturn, A planet called Tiamat in the asteroid belt area, and the big no-no of shills everywhere, Nibiru, who is captured by the sun in an elliptical 3600 year clockwise orbit like a comet. The Enuma E'Lish. The 6 tablets of action, 1 tablet of summation,(Taken by many as the 6 days of creation and the one day of rest) plausibly answers at least a half of dozen great mysteries surrounding our cosmogony. A planet going clockwise opposed to our counterclockwise neighborhood has the potential of some serious Doom folks. Although they describe Nibiru knocking into Tiamat at one point in time, its last several passings have been further and further away. So no I don't side with the Nibiru Doom gang, but I am going to say that the collision itself answers a lot of questions surrounding modern astronomy and Earth geology. In the collision of planets Nibiru and Tiamat, Nibiru due to it being, colder, larger, and older, it held itself together. Meanwhile Tiamat was torn in half, but not completely obliterated. Just cracked open like an eggshell. Those very few moments answers several of the most puzzling questions known to man. The asteroid belt. Volumes of inner viscous magma seeped out and established what the Sumerians called the "hammered bracelet" and Tiamat having been illustrated being originally positioned in the crux of the asteroid belt, we can simply postulate the collision knocked it into a new orbit, leaving all the magma to cool and solidify into what we know call the asteroid belt. Comets. In a linear solar system, where the primordial cloud of dust and gas flattens out into a pancake, comets have no right to come from all over the place. Mainstreamers may speak of the Oort cloud, but that is the biggest joke out there (no pun intended), because comets are made of water. You don't make water in the middle of a vacuum. You make water being a cooling, condensing planet. The collision described in the epic answers how they were removed out into the solar system. Tectonic plates. The lighter outer crust being torn off, and half of the planet oozing out its bowels, we all know what happens to liquids in a vacuum. It makes the smallest tightest ball it can. So you now hopefully have a new perspective on why we have moving plates, just imagine the Earth not completely solidified from the initial collision around 4 billion years ago. Pluto. You all heard we're downgrading the planetoid. It also shares the same fate of comets, it is 17 degrees off of the ecliptic. NOTHING should be off of the ecliptic. The Epic illustrated Pluto being a moon of Saturn, till it was whisked away during Nibiru's approach to the inner solar system. Jesus this only took 5 hrs.. The more I try perfecting my "Truth of Our Origins" series, the further and further away to completion. During this post alone, I completed the final draft, only to press the shift button for my internet to close without reason, losing my entire post. I also started a second copy which was also deleted due to me spilling my drink all over my laptop because of a freak lightning strike. Even now I am writing this post via cellphone because my I Internet simply does not work any more. Basically the importance of this thread, which I find absolute, is going through the worst symptoms of diminishing returns I have ever witnessed, let alone created. Having redo-ed almost 5 times, in shorter more mediocre paragraphs, I have pulled out all the stops, finishing this on my phone. I will finish upgrading this post later. Pretentious |
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Heretic_333
(OP) User ID: 5555119 United States 08/28/2012 01:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | being deceived or controlled, do not forsake my conviction. =( I do not wish to condone Religion. I have a higher power, and I practice loads of spirituality. However if you read the post carefully, I win intelligent design over evolution. The only thing I think needs changed in the worlds Religions, is the omnipotent man with a beard. Unconditional love and creation is what we are here to do. I believe the answer to the question "Why are we here" is in fact just that. Also folks, I am not debating on First Cause or the big bang, I am specifically focusing on life on Earth and humanity. Our origins, not the origins of the Universe. If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie? I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill. Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22456367 Australia 08/28/2012 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "When you seek a path to any new truth, you must Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22623897 expect to find it blocked by ‘expert opinion.’ Albert Guérard" It was once said the Earth was flat. Then it was found to be round. how can you say science is invalid? "4 pertinent distinctions in appearance of these bipedal hair covered creatures." Way to turn it's into a religious thing... Also, I count you saying "I" and Me" over fifty times. Way to be self deluded. Science is invalid because it has a "guilty until proven innocent" aspect. It will be taught that the world is no doubt flat, until someone can prove otherwise. The world will be taught that the world is flat. Flat being 100% truth, because nothing else can take it's place. Science labeling a fact "subject to change" is damn near sacrilegious. All facts in science are subject to change. It is society's understanding and application of those facts that causes the problem. Blame education, normalisation and acculturation, not science. |
Heretic_333
(OP) User ID: 5555119 United States 08/28/2012 01:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turn off the system. Quoting: Oh boy 6199901 Shut down the computer. Unplug your power. Throw it out the window. Pick up the book and read: The Convoluted Universe. Dolores Cannon is by far one of the best authors researchers out there. Great book. If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie? I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill. Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all. |
SkinnyChic
User ID: 22723055 United States 08/28/2012 01:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great post OP. I cant but wonder though; If this is the truth of our origins, then do our creators have a creator? Just a thought... Quoting: Lemaus A good thought. If they are real, and if they did in fact develop life and/or humans on Earth, then who are they? And who created them? This leads to an endless hall of mirrors echoing the same impossible-to answer question: Who are their creators??? This brings up what is known as First Cause, the starting place for all of everything—of life and existence itself. No human actually knows anything about it, and we probably never will. I don’t know, religion doesn’t, and scientists certainly don’t. Yet those institutions are forced by their intense rivalry for hearts and minds to pretend that they actually do know the answer. Don’t believe either side. Religion and science stand eyeball-to-eyeball and are too frightened to blink, much less acknowledge any doubts or weaknesses in their propaganda. But, luckily, I don’t have those restrictions. I can busy myself trying to discover what is actually knowable. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22456367 Australia 08/28/2012 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was just about to complain about that, but I didn't want to have to re-quote it just to bitch at you for quoting it. OP, you need to buy a car battery and an inverter to run your computer on in hard times. And, thank you for your research. Marked for later... Better off with a cheaper Lead Acid, that's designed to actually be discharged; car batteries are meant to stay at 12V, and go to shit if subjected to discharge. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6199901 United Kingdom 08/28/2012 01:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turn off the system. Quoting: Oh boy 6199901 Shut down the computer. Unplug your power. Throw it out the window. Pick up the book and read: The Convoluted Universe. Dolores Cannon is by far one of the best authors researchers out there. Great book. Yes not only author but the greatest metaphysics hypnosis pioneer since Atlantis sunk and did you read it?. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1327743 Canada 08/28/2012 01:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I see NOTHING about the ELECTRIC UNIVERSE, which requires no vacuum, no water, and no unanswered questions, important, srsly. So think of live wire reactions, eYeah, THAT kind of energy, and yes, that MEANS it's everywhere, AND FREE. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22573986 United States 08/28/2012 01:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great post OP. I cant but wonder though; If this is the truth of our origins, then do our creators have a creator? Just a thought... Quoting: Lemaus A good thought. If they are real, and if they did in fact develop life and/or humans on Earth, then who are they? And who created them? This leads to an endless hall of mirrors echoing the same impossible-to answer question: Who are their creators??? This brings up what is known as First Cause, the starting place for all of everything—of life and existence itself. No human actually knows anything about it, and we probably never will. I don’t know, religion doesn’t, and scientists certainly don’t. Yet those institutions are forced by their intense rivalry for hearts and minds to pretend that they actually do know the answer. Don’t believe either side. Religion and science stand eyeball-to-eyeball and are too frightened to blink, much less acknowledge any doubts or weaknesses in their propaganda. But, luckily, I don’t have those restrictions. I can busy myself trying to discover what is actually knowable. Why do we need to have a starting place at all? We have this obsession with "start" and "end". Yet neither of them make any sense at all. Maybe we should stop trying to answer these questions and start looking inward into our own thought processes. Say to yourself loudly. "I do not know where I came from" and you know what?....."I'm really ok with that" Maybe the answer lies in abandoning all of the ideas we've been taught in the past. Because I tell you what. No amount of science or religion is ever gonna answer my question of "How big is the Universe?, where does it end" and "Where do we come from?" I ask myself these questions almost daily. And I've yet to find the answers. So what is the truth? That the universe actually DOES end somewhere and there is a void that spans to eternity beyond that? Or is it that we have no flippin clue of how to even fathom the depth of this dimension and universe, as we are basically nothing more than animals trying to figure out where our next meal is gonna come from.(Albeit in a much more civilized form than in the past). Bottom line is that Ops' idea has as good a ground as any, in my book, at explaining how these lives of ours have some kind of meaning. Best theory I've heard in a long time. |
Éireann
User ID: 22378846 United States 08/28/2012 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turn off the system. Quoting: Oh boy 6199901 Shut down the computer. Unplug your power. Throw it out the window. Pick up the book and read: The Convoluted Universe. How rude. How do you know that your truth is THE truth? Ridiculing and dismissing aren't very good tools for teaching as they tend to turn your potential student away rather than enticing them to investigate further what you have to offer. Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
Heretic_333
(OP) User ID: 5555119 United States 08/28/2012 01:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "When you seek a path to any new truth, you must Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22623897 expect to find it blocked by ‘expert opinion.’ Albert Guérard" It was once said the Earth was flat. Then it was found to be round. how can you say science is invalid? "4 pertinent distinctions in appearance of these bipedal hair covered creatures." Way to turn it's into a religious thing... Also, I count you saying "I" and Me" over fifty times. Way to be self deluded. Science is invalid because it has a "guilty until proven innocent" aspect. It will be taught that the world is no doubt flat, until someone can prove otherwise. The world will be taught that the world is flat. Flat being 100% truth, because nothing else can take it's place. Science labeling a fact "subject to change" is damn near sacrilegious. All facts in science are subject to change. It is society's understanding and application of those facts that causes the problem. Blame education, normalisation and acculturation, not science. Blame the normalcy bias, I understand, but understand this... Things must be explained with concrete terrestrial terms and evidence. Science has hamstrung itself. Science (overtime) has painted itself into the corner, saying things can only be true once proven so. There are 2 constants in scientific progression... Theories and Facts. Scientists risk all of their well being into declaring something a fact. The moment that fact is proven false or is changed... That scientist loses his credibility, status, and overall reputation. So money making scientists nip that problem in the bud and declare any opposing theories as IMPOSSIBLE. EVEN THOUGH, it is IMPOSSIBLE for the fact to be complete! Making progression move at the slow arduous climb many alternative researchers despise today. I am not saying we should declare any idea as true until proven false, I am saying FACTS are constantly being updated, so why not label facts as "what we know so far" rather than "this is all you need to know" Do you see what I mean? It makes scientific progression costly and time consuming. Last Edited by Heretic_333 on 08/28/2012 01:51 AM If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie? I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill. Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all. |