Calling all Iconoclasts... Enter. The Truth of Our Origins.

Ok ok ok I have a question. If we didn't come from molecules evolving and we came from aliens then WHO MADE the ALIENS?????? Ok now take this question and replace alien with the answer you gave to the last question. Repeat this with each answer you give. Somehow something must of happen to make the first life in the universe. Why not here on earth???

This is ponder worthy.

Interesting post and yes their is something wrong with all the theories on how we got here. But it will always go back to the old "chicken or the egg thing" as to what came first.

So if ET's made us and put us here, which I feel is entirely plausible, then where did they come from and who made them? You see we keep going back to the chicken or egg thing. I am not saying not to search for the truth. It just seems out of my grasp at the present. If you are looking at it from a scientific point of view, however, I understand important it is to explore all possibilities.

One day I was walking my dog and it just hit me that we human beings stick out like a sore thumb on this planet, like we really do not belong here. We are so out of synch with the rest of nature it's not funny. Our emotional problems are vast and appear to be worsening. The rest of nature appears to be in a sacred balance except that we humans have been f**king it up along with ourselves for centuries. Indigenous peoples seemed to live w/in the bounds of nature, however, it would appear that mostly the Anglophile world did not like that and hence they eradicated most of them.

The only spiritual solution I can come to for myself is to go within and find the truth, not of where we came from or who made us because I think that is out of my grasp at the present, but merely that I trust in this process. For myself I need to seek the truth, try and do the right thing and have faith in the process and believe that there is a higher purpose for my existence here on planet earth and this I do believe.

Thanks for all your efforts.

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Amen to ponder worthy!!!!

Wow.

Anyway we can get you to loose power a bit sooner?

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Because, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.


Romans 1:20-23

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Because, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.


Romans 1:20-23

I couldn't find this post anywhere in the thread
to reply back to. I am always open to debate.

I never shut my mind for a second.

OP,

I'm not attempting to be nasty when I say this:

You've been deceived.
You are a victim of deception.

I know you've heard it before.
And that you've dismissed it.

But it is true.

I hope you make your way out of the muck that has pulled you down.

One method is to refuse to accept anything as it is presented.
Question and test all things.

And I mean all.

Keep asking questions. Track everything to its source.

Don't settle for pat answers that appear logical to your present state of mind.

This can be done.

And for you it must be done.

If you question everything with ultimate and ruthless diligence, including things you don't presently, "believe in," as well as those you presently do, you will arrive at a Conclusion.

Hopefully, for your sake, you are up to the task.

I am being deceived by nothing.

That is the statement of the truly self-deceived.

You worship yourself as the master of parsing reality.

You basically think of yourself, intellectually speaking, as a God. You believe if you are clever enough, you will not die.

It is the oldest deception of all.



Like others have pointed out, you give no account for the initial cause of Life, and the creation of the universe.

The glory belongs to God. And you know it.

I am being deceived by nothing.

My life consists of. Unconditional Love. Work. and Questions. To the best of my ability.

Your entire post sums up why I actually posted the OP.

I couldn't find this post anywhere in the thread
to reply back to. I am always open to debate.

I never shut my mind for a second.

Jesus Christ is LORD. God. The ultimate test of any spirit.

I've thrown you a rope.
I suggest you take it.

My dad used to ask us kids at the dinner table "Think of something we can build to make $$"
That was the greatest gift he gave me, the ability to dream and think without limits.