Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature

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Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6739256 United States 09/01/2012 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature Published: Friday, 31 Aug 2012 The California state legislature just moved that dream a little closer to reality by approving a bill paving the way for driverless cars to be allowed on Golden State freeways. The bill, authored by State Senator Alex Padilla (D-Van Nuys), was passed by the state Assembly on Wednesday and then given the overwhelming thumbs up by the state Senate the following day. If signed by Governor Jerry Brown, Padilla's bill would legally allow autonomous vehicles on the road and charge the state's Department of Motor Vehicles with determining the standards for self-driving cars, rules which current do not exist under the present vehicle code. The Economist notes that about 90 percent of traffic accidents are caused by human error, Even so, the bill requires the cars to have a flesh-and-blood human being behind the wheel if something goes wrong. Bay Area tech giant Google has been leading the way in self-driving cars. The team behind the project asserts that the technology is largely already there and their self-driving cars are ready to hit the road right now. [link to www.cnbc.com]

Anonymous Coward User ID: 16022654 United States 09/01/2012 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature What could possibly go wrong here?
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6739256 United States 09/01/2012 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature What could possibly go wrong here? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16022654 nothing any worse than when some clown gets behind the wheel after having a few beers, a woman putting on her make up while driving, a teenager texting while driving, a 90 year old who mistakes the brake for a gas pedal, etc...
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16022654 United States 09/01/2012 01:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature What could possibly go wrong here? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16022654 nothing any worse than when some clown gets behind the wheel after having a few beers, a woman putting on her make up while driving, a teenager texting while driving, a 90 year old who mistakes the brake for a gas pedal, etc... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6739256 Right, and computers are so reliable. You put too much faith in technology.
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6739256 United States 09/01/2012 01:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature What could possibly go wrong here? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16022654 nothing any worse than when some clown gets behind the wheel after having a few beers, a woman putting on her make up while driving, a teenager texting while driving, a 90 year old who mistakes the brake for a gas pedal, etc... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6739256 Right, and computers are so reliable. You put too much faith in technology. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16022654 I like how the exact same argument people are now trying to use to justify keeping current human driven cars, is the exact same argument people used against cars when they were first being introduced in the early 1900s, dont put faith in technology, keep riding a horse, yada yada. Self driving cars are wonderful, and they cant get here soon enough. On top of the fact they will allow us to finally eliminate the DUI problem, they will also give the elderly and handicapped the ability to drive again.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19228212 United States 09/01/2012 01:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature What could possibly go wrong here? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16022654 nothing any worse than when some clown gets behind the wheel after having a few beers, a woman putting on her make up while driving, a teenager texting while driving, a 90 year old who mistakes the brake for a gas pedal, etc... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6739256 This has got MASSIVE FUTURE LIABILITY TORT CLAIM LAWSUIT written all over it....
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16022654 United States 09/01/2012 01:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature What could possibly go wrong here? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16022654 nothing any worse than when some clown gets behind the wheel after having a few beers, a woman putting on her make up while driving, a teenager texting while driving, a 90 year old who mistakes the brake for a gas pedal, etc... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6739256 Right, and computers are so reliable. You put too much faith in technology. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16022654 I like how the exact same argument people are now trying to use to justify keeping current human driven cars, is the exact same argument people used against cars when they were first being introduced in the early 1900s, dont put faith in technology, keep riding a horse, yada yada. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6739256 And how do you know that? Were you there? Plus there's a world of difference between cars and computers. Fifty years into it and computer software is still glitchy. And just why are you so eager to hand over control to a computer? Are you a transhumanist?
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6739256 United States 09/01/2012 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature What could possibly go wrong here? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16022654 nothing any worse than when some clown gets behind the wheel after having a few beers, a woman putting on her make up while driving, a teenager texting while driving, a 90 year old who mistakes the brake for a gas pedal, etc... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6739256 This has got MASSIVE FUTURE LIABILITY TORT CLAIM LAWSUIT written all over it.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19228212 i wouldnt doubt it, these are the chief enemies i see of this technology: 1. insurance companies; who will be put under the screws when people start saying "Uhhhm I have a self driving car now, my policy should be very low if the robot drives" 2. police unions, who will panic about how to ticket a self driving car. 3. The ambulance chasing lawyers. I can imagine the usual suspects jumping in front of self driving cars for some insurance law suit; although it should be a very simple matter to have these cars covered with wall to wall cameras, so if someone did try and jump in front of a self driving car on purpose for some kind of fraud thing, the car camera records could be accessed to show the person jumping in front of the car on purpose.
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6739256 United States 09/01/2012 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature ... nothing any worse than when some clown gets behind the wheel after having a few beers, a woman putting on her make up while driving, a teenager texting while driving, a 90 year old who mistakes the brake for a gas pedal, etc... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6739256 Right, and computers are so reliable. You put too much faith in technology. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16022654 I like how the exact same argument people are now trying to use to justify keeping current human driven cars, is the exact same argument people used against cars when they were first being introduced in the early 1900s, dont put faith in technology, keep riding a horse, yada yada. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6739256 And how do you know that? Were you there? Plus there's a world of difference between cars and computers. Fifty years into it and computer software is still glitchy. And just why are you so eager to hand over control to a computer? Are you a transhumanist? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16022654 are you one of these crazy people who assumes everything in a history book is an evil illusion? Why am I so eager to make the world a better place, I dont know, that's just my nature. DUI's are a problem, and the self driving cars are the solution. These cars will also allow the elderly and disabled to have worry free driving and mobility.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16022654 United States 09/01/2012 01:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature are you one of these crazy people who assumes everything in a history book is an evil illusion? Why am I so eager to make the world a better place, I dont know, that's just my nature. DUI's are a problem, and the self driving cars are the solution. These cars will also allow the elderly and disabled to have worry free driving and mobility. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6739256 What history book? I never read that. I've heard just the opposite, that people were eager to have cars. Check out the video of 1906 San Francisco. Tons of cars, and no one freaking out. And why do you resort to insults? Are you threatened by people who don't share your rosie view of the future? As far as DUIs and old people, how about more mass transit? Oh that's right, there's no money in that for Google.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16022654 United States 09/01/2012 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature Anyway I'll let you have the last word. Pointless argument. You're not going to change my mind and I'm not going to change yours. Enjoy your future :)

Anonymous Coward User ID: 21662845 Australia 09/01/2012 02:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature How the fuck can they do this? Please tell me? Driverless cars? Wtf?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21662845 Australia 09/01/2012 02:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature I think they mean driving assisted cars as in collision control and traction control etc. No way a car without a driver will be allowed on a public road.
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6739256 United States 09/01/2012 02:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature I think they mean driving assisted cars as in collision control and traction control etc. No way a car without a driver will be allowed on a public road. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21662845 A car that drives itself, yes on a public road.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19420840 United States 09/01/2012 02:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature PIN..5 STARS AND CANCEL MY DAM AUTO POLICY!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21662845 Australia 09/01/2012 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature I think they mean driving assisted cars as in collision control and traction control etc. No way a car without a driver will be allowed on a public road. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21662845 A car that drives itself, yes on a public road. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6739256 Nah man you're reading it wrong it doesn't say "driver less" car. It says self driving which means systems to assist the driver. No matter what laws the government makes, if the cops saw a car with no driver on the road they would smash it off the road.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21662845 Australia 09/01/2012 02:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature Steering correct assist collision assist there is many automated features in cars these days which make them safer. This goes back to ABS and when they started that they had to make new vehicle design laws due to it being "self braking".
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6739256 United States 09/01/2012 02:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature I think they mean driving assisted cars as in collision control and traction control etc. No way a car without a driver will be allowed on a public road. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21662845 A car that drives itself, yes on a public road. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6739256 Nah man you're reading it wrong it doesn't say "driver less" car. It says self driving which means systems to assist the driver. No matter what laws the government makes, if the cops saw a car with no driver on the road they would smash it off the road. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21662845 did you watch the video up at the top, The blind man behind the wheel was not being assisted, the car was driving itself.
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6739256 United States 09/01/2012 02:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature PIN..5 STARS AND CANCEL MY DAM AUTO POLICY! Quoting: Gonviral +1, and thanks for the pin.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15663183 Australia 09/01/2012 02:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature What could possibly go wrong here? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16022654 What if a child or dog runs onto the street? What if you are not in the city and an animal runs across your path?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21663721 United States 09/01/2012 02:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature hell, if they are going to this, one might just as well take a bus. same thing. i mean what is the point of driving if you dont have to....drive?

Anonymous Coward User ID: 20006444 United States 09/01/2012 02:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature If smart (and they are) Google will partner with two or three car companies and lobby CA and NY for tax credits to encourage the buyers of cars to opt for the auto-drive units to be installed at the point of manufacture. Because these cars will be safer by a factor of 90%, insurance on them should cost 1/10th of what it will cost on cars with drivers full time. The more you use the "auto-drive" unit, the lower your insurance bills will go! This is a whole new era opening up and I can hardly wait to own one!
MC Squared User ID: 22141898 United States 09/01/2012 02:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature Road Drones
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21662845 Australia 09/01/2012 02:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature I think they mean driving assisted cars as in collision control and traction control etc. No way a car without a driver will be allowed on a public road. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21662845 A car that drives itself, yes on a public road. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6739256 Nah man you're reading it wrong it doesn't say "driver less" car. It says self driving which means systems to assist the driver. No matter what laws the government makes, if the cops saw a car with no driver on the road they would smash it off the road. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21662845 did you watch the video up at the top, The blind man behind the wheel was not being assisted, the car was driving itself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6739256 Yes but the legislation is not from the video. It says nothing of blind people being able to drive cars. Perhaps you should try harder to fool people with your nonsense?
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6739256 United States 09/01/2012 02:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature What could possibly go wrong here? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16022654 What if a child or dog runs onto the street? What if you are not in the city and an animal runs across your path? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15663183 lasers, radar and what not would pick up something in front of the car and it would come to a stop.
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6739256 United States 09/01/2012 02:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature If smart (and they are) Google will partner with two or three car companies and lobby CA and NY for tax credits to encourage the buyers of cars to opt for the auto-drive units to be installed at the point of manufacture. Because these cars will be safer by a factor of 90%, insurance on them should cost 1/10th of what it will cost on cars with drivers full time. The more you use the "auto-drive" unit, the lower your insurance bills will go! This is a whole new era opening up and I can hardly wait to own one! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20006444 +1, the insurance companies arent going to like it when people start demanding their insurances polices go down because they have self driving cars, And, I also cant wait to own one. Driving is more trouble than it's worth.
Skin Suit User ID: 22870849 United States 09/01/2012 02:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature if you can't drive a car, you shouldn't be in one. that goes for toddlers too. what happens if an emp happens..the toddlers die. ban cars. who wants to take away the joy from driving your own car.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15663183 Australia 09/01/2012 02:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature What could possibly go wrong here? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16022654 What if a child or dog runs onto the street? What if you are not in the city and an animal runs across your path? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15663183 lasers, radar and what not would pick up something in front of the car and it would come to a stop. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6739256 What if the child/animal is not in front, but running from the side at speed?
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6739256 United States 09/01/2012 02:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature if you can't drive a car, you shouldn't be in one. that goes for toddlers too. what happens if an emp happens..the toddlers die. ban cars. who wants to take away the joy from driving your own car. Quoting: Skin Suit wouldnt the EMP shut down every other car on the road too?
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6739256 United States 09/01/2012 02:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature What could possibly go wrong here? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16022654 What if a child or dog runs onto the street? What if you are not in the city and an animal runs across your path? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15663183 lasers, radar and what not would pick up something in front of the car and it would come to a stop. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6739256 What if the child/animal is not in front, but running from the side at speed? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15663183 I'd imagine the computer picks up everything happening 360 degrees around the car.
Saddletramp User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 09/01/2012 03:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Self-Driving Cars Approved by California Legislature What I wanna know is who get's the ticket first time your Jettson's robot vehicle runs over little Elroy?!?!? Last Edited by Saddletramp on 09/01/2012 03:26 AM "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!"
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