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That Anomalous Tectonic Event Thing

 
Harbinger
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01/06/2006 10:42 AM
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On 1/3/2006 at 3:21 PM someone posted my STA article entitled “Anomalous Worldwide Tectonic Event” on GLP - and put my name to it as poster.

Harbinger (that’s me) never intended to post this article on GLP. Reasons vary, but it mostly has to do with wingnut count. Whoever did post the article may have been unaware of standard protocol in that they should have put their own or some other name to it as poster rather than mine.

In any case, after reading the responses, wingnut and otherwise, I’m inclined to respond to some of these comments, particularly those of the individual known as Marlboro man. I get the impression that this person may regard himself as the resident seismic expert on this forum. His comments and mine follow:

1. “I am still waiting for the data sources that Harbinger actually said he had and that I requested in my last post here.”

You are going to wait a long time Marlboro man. Go to the original article at STA and request the file using the email link provided. That’s what everyone else who wanted the file did. You can too.

2. “Also, for those that don't realize it P and S waves play absolutely no factor in this discussion as that neither of those were even present in the two examples waveforms that he did show.”

A remarkable observation. The P and S wave argument was included to give the reader a sense of propagation time, so that the close ordering of the event discussed in the article would stand out even more as an anomaly. A+B=C

3. “I have commented before that a few seismic events seem to be related to deeper core events over the last few months, so if anything, I would have liked to vidicate harbinger, not debunk him.”

Well, you are certainly right about deeper core events. You get a gold star for that one. As far as debunking me, keep on reading.

4. “Unfortunately, from the little nonsense he has provided, I can not even tell if this was some "glitch" or a minor local event.”

The odds of all these closely spaced events being a glitch are on the order of billions to one.

5. “Rather then making snide responses to honest points and questions Harbinger, why don't you just provide all the data that you claim to have that I requested.”

See #1 above.

6. “If you don't have the facts, then it must be fiction.”

See #1 above, and nobody has ALL the facts Marlboro man. The Creator does, but doesn’t post on Internet forums.

7. “Here's the problem though guys, you can't just pick and choose data that you think you can make fit.”

I chose all the station events shown on the USGS real time seismogram site for 1 January 2006 and reported it. The site is run by the Albuquerque Seismological Laboratory, a part of the U.S. Geological Survey, Central Region Geologic Hazards Team, under the Department of the Interior. They install and maintain the Global Seismic Network, collecting and distributing the data produced by these stations. If choosing the top mainstream source is a sin, then I apologize.

8. “If it was a worldwide event, then it should have showed on all the magnetometers, you can't just throw the others away like they're not there. The same goes for all of the seismo links I've provided already that shows nothing. That is all real data, please show me this event on any of them.”

It did not show on all the USGS seismograms either. I think I pointed this out in the article.

9. “If it was worldwide, then it should show worldwide, sorry guys, no offense, I just don't see it.”

You can lead a horse to water...

10. “I like to keep a watch on things Will, so if their was a major event I would rather back it then debunk it. I still think what Harbinger saw may have seen nothing more thatn a calibration signal. There is a reading at the bottom of each graph that says what levels each station is set to that could explain some of the differentiations that he may have seen in those two signals. The problem with the global server is that they are in real time, and I don't know of anywhere you can access the archives. Let's put it this way, should I get excited because here is that signal again right now?”

Ah, the coup d’grace:

Go to: [link to aslwww.cr.usgs.gov] and see how IRIS/USGS (IU) and IRIS/CDSN/USGS (IC) stations are calibrated after installation and on an ANNUAL BASIS to ensure the availability of accurate response information for users. All the calibration signal types and times are shown. None of them occurred during the anomaly. Open mouth and insert foot.

To Psychobabble:

Your idea of the sun is thoughtful, but the event timing of the anomaly on a station by station basis does not support a solar cause, nor was there a significant solar event recorded during the time frame.

To want2knowy:

1. “"Regardless of the source, on the first of January a scalar tectonic weapon left a record for all to view.
Of even more ominous portent is the possibility that the devices that caused this event are located in space."
These two paragraphs in the OP's original post, should show the validity of his claims.”

That information is forthcoming. This was but one in a series of articles. But, I will give you a clue. A very fast magnetic pulse acting at great depth produced the event in question. The clue to the depth is to be found in the event times at the seismic stations shown in the article. Someone with better math than me with a Cray computer could calculate the exact location and depth with the available information.

To produce an anomaly of this scale by artificial means implies tremendous amounts of power and the ability to localize a magnetic pulse. To get a sense of this, the little plastic throwaway cigarette lighters you see at 7-11 have a metal top that is cold formed in a pulsed magnetic field. The metal is almost instantaneously wrapped around a die under the influence of a very short, powerful pulse. The power required to do this is in the order of kilowatts.

The HAARP station at Gakona, Alaska is now up to an ERP (effective radiated power) of about 96 dBW. 96dBW is about 4 billion watts. Gakona and two or more other stations can form a scalar interferometer with power that is additive at the convergence point. This is in the order of terra watts. Earth is just a bigger cigarette lighter to the perps. Gakona is, by the way, just a little brother. I make no claim as to who actually did this.

Only three or more axis scalar interferometers have the kind of power and steering ability to produce the pulse needed to cause the anomaly cited in the STA article. The downward directed pulse momentarily attracted a section of liquid iron in the outer core of the Earth, which rose just enough to affect the mantle and the tectonic plate above it. If you view fig. 3 in the linked graphic to the original article you can see the rather dramatic effect of this. Fig. 3 was chosen because this seismographic instrument was close to the target area, the southern end of the Philippine Sea Plate. Within hours of the anomaly, earthquake activity began to rise.

So it really had to be a tectonic weapon. No other energy source, i.e. the sun, or stellar activity made itself apparent on instruments that are available to modern science and on line. Those were the first things I checked. I did however neglect to take into consideration planet X, the photon belt, irate Tibetan monks, evil reptoids or their Draco overlords.

There is evidence that scalar interferometers are present in space around the Earth. This is the result of someone else’s investigative work and I did not quote it then, nor do I now.

The next time someone drops one of my articles on this forum, please use your own moniker as poster.

Thanks,
Harbinger
herbfinger
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01/06/2006 10:54 AM
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How do I know it's really you?
Herbfinder
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01/06/2006 10:54 AM
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...and who are you?
Anonymous Coward
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01/06/2006 12:09 PM
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Thanks Real Harbinger....nice to have the info from the actual source.
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01/06/2006 12:55 PM
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bump
Marlboro Man
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01/06/2006 01:15 PM
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I quess we'll agree to disagree on this one.

BTW - you are wrong about the suns influence also. We were still under a set of CME and coronal wind streams at that time.

Note the flux in the particle density that occurred at the same times as the magnetograms that you presented.

[link to umtof.umd.edu]
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01/06/2006 01:36 PM
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Harbinger, could you please explain how this pulse might not be a natural event stemming from the core itself? What if the core is a natural nuclear reactor?
Also, do you know of any terrestrial mechanisms that might produce x-ray or gamma-rays besides lightening, sprites or jets? I mean in sufficient quantity or hardness to be detected by Swift or IBIS type monitors.

Swift-BAT trigger 175653 is not an astrophysical source (~04:03 UT on 03 January 2006) [link to gcn.gsfc.nasa.gov]

or
Swift Trigger 172767 is not a GRB (00:39:49 UT on 15 Dec 2005)
[link to gcn.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Thank you for your consideration.
Anonymous Coward
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01/06/2006 03:42 PM
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Answers! I wan't some ANSWERS! cry

lol
Anonymous Coward
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01/06/2006 03:47 PM
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Unfortunately, Harbinger, there is no such thing as a "scalar interferometer". "Scalar technology" is a long-running con of Tom Bearden (who has provided me and my friends in Huntsville with much amusement over the years).
Will from Rushy

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01/07/2006 02:08 AM
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isn't that funny,

I wonder if it was your wife that i was having an affair with, that kept me "amused" on so many occasions.

well, what goes around comes around. You don't believe that scalar exists or that your wife will cheat on you.

are you really so sure of your beliefs.
when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro
Marlboro Man

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01/07/2006 03:00 AM
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Maybe you were the one banging my wife Will. I don't know about that, but this whole event that harbinger brought up is fantasy, that much I am sure of.
Anonymous Coward
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01/07/2006 03:28 AM
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WAs referring to the above poster slamming tom Bearden, and at the same time "insinuating" that since he worked in Huntsville, (NASA) that he of course was educated properly and knew exactly how the world works.

sure he does.
Will from Rushy nli
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01/07/2006 03:32 AM
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Man, why does this thing time out so quickly.

As for the Harginger thing.

Well I am just watching this one. Earthquakes and how to read siesmos are not somthing I have devled into to.

I watch climate, do a fair bit of reading on scietific matters, and "communications" and that encompasses a huge area.

Well, if your wife likes to hang out in Destin fla and do tequila shots, you might be trouble MM> whip
will from Rushy nli
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01/07/2006 03:39 AM
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man, that typing and speeeling was bad, even for my low standards LOL.

I must be tired. And my ears are ringing MM. I notice it every now and then. Tinatus, perhaps. But it comes and goes and does change pitch.

both ears, I noticed it tonight and it is something you can't help but notice when it starts and continues.

you know my location and its been going on for more than an hour.

if ya keepin track etc.

Not as high as a thousand hertz,, but not to far away from that.
Marlboro Man

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01/07/2006 03:39 AM
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As for the tectonic changes this has been going on for a while now.

Will, you may be more susceptable to low frequency changes, that's why I never rule sensitives out. Sometimes your hearing ranges are a bit above or below that of others.
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Several occurances over the last few days. I have to say it is rather persistant . As for what or if anything it "means". Could just be the air pressure changes.

I imagine that dogs etc, have it much worse. They have to filter out all the AC in the house and then more.
Marlboro Man

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01/07/2006 03:59 AM
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Since you mentioned animals, check your area for a lot of ads for missing pets. They tend to be a good indicator since their hearing is much better than ours. Otherwise you may have to just consider an inner ear problem as well. Just fuel for thought.
wonbyOne

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01/07/2006 04:03 AM
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Magnesium = #1 natural treatment for ringing in the ears (tinnitis)

(I don't know if it works for earthquake or psuedo-earthquake activity.)
Marlboro Man

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01/07/2006 04:07 AM
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Doc 1x1 is in the house. headbang
wonbyOne

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01/07/2006 04:09 AM
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Hey MM! cheers

What's shakin'?

What's not these days?





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