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CalmShock
User ID: 5056346 Canada 09/11/2012 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many people would you need to make the colony functional? Quoting: CalmShock There will be no limit on immigration. Humans should be free to come and go as they please, it is natural. Migration should not know borders. How many people would be required to keep the gene pool clean of incest? I am unsure. What area would you colonize that can provide the basic materials needed for survival in such a desolate area? Would there be doctors? Schools? Jails? We would find an area. I will not announce it publicly. There would be medical personell. Schooling can be accomplished using whatever means the parent wishes. There would be NO jail, ONLY FORGIVENESS OR EXILE for those who cannot be reformed. Would there be a currency? Hospitals, libraries, infrastructure? Patience is a virtue I just can't wait to achieve - CalmShock |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23575113 Thailand 09/11/2012 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ..pretty difficult place, this old earth.. if this is what we have to do.. but you know? that is exactly the way the reality on this planet is.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23385993 there is no other place on the planet without some country to mess everything up with their culture in place.. u cannot start your own culture.. here on the earth, that is.. everything is all screwed up.. every country wants to give its screwed up way of doing things.. there is no other place to go except antarctica.. oh no, not at all, we can build space ships and go where the nasty TPTB's cant follow us! Great idea eh!..... or we can go live in antartcia, light a big bon fire, link hands in a circle and sing kum bay yah! go eat a burger & chew bacca billy bob from deliverance.. PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT: People are getting stupid, thats what this is all about!! stupid people! and how they are bringing down the human race! |
Antarctican
(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many people would you need to make the colony functional? Quoting: CalmShock There will be no limit on immigration. Humans should be free to come and go as they please, it is natural. Migration should not know borders. How many people would be required to keep the gene pool clean of incest? I am unsure. What area would you colonize that can provide the basic materials needed for survival in such a desolate area? Would there be doctors? Schools? Jails? We would find an area. I will not announce it publicly. There would be medical personell. Schooling can be accomplished using whatever means the parent wishes. There would be NO jail, ONLY FORGIVENESS OR EXILE for those who cannot be reformed. Would there be a currency? Hospitals, libraries, infrastructure? Calories would be used as currency. Direct representation of energy. There would be medical treatment and research centres. Libraries are a waste of space and resources. Electronic access would be available. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23575113 Thailand 09/11/2012 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many people would you need to make the colony functional? Quoting: CalmShock There will be no limit on immigration. Humans should be free to come and go as they please, it is natural. Migration should not know borders. How many people would be required to keep the gene pool clean of incest? I am unsure. What area would you colonize that can provide the basic materials needed for survival in such a desolate area? Would there be doctors? Schools? Jails? We would find an area. I will not announce it publicly. There would be medical personel. Schooling can be accomplished using whatever means the parent wishes. There would be NO jail, ONLY FORGIVENESS OR EXILE for those who cannot be reformed. Would there be a currency? Hospitals, libraries, infrastructure? >There would be NO jail iceland had no jail for its entire history spanning a 1000nd years?(chk on this) iceland had no jail, until just the last decade |
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(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 08:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many people would you need to make the colony functional? Quoting: CalmShock There will be no limit on immigration. Humans should be free to come and go as they please, it is natural. Migration should not know borders. How many people would be required to keep the gene pool clean of incest? I am unsure. What area would you colonize that can provide the basic materials needed for survival in such a desolate area? Would there be doctors? Schools? Jails? We would find an area. I will not announce it publicly. There would be medical personel. Schooling can be accomplished using whatever means the parent wishes. There would be NO jail, ONLY FORGIVENESS OR EXILE for those who cannot be reformed. Would there be a currency? Hospitals, libraries, infrastructure? >There would be NO jail iceland had no jail for its entire history spanning a 1000nd years?(chk on this) iceland had no jail, until just the last decade Nordic systems. Yes. Functional. Jail is imposed by the banking system. Does not lead to reform. Punishment does not fix nor fit the crime. Last Edited by Antarctican on 09/11/2012 08:09 AM |
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CalmShock
User ID: 5056346 Canada 09/11/2012 08:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll admit, I like the idea. The only area that it could be done is the unclaimed Mary Bird land and a defunct claim made by Nazi Germany, New Swabia. [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to en.wikipedia.org] (apparently there's an abandoned base left there from 1972... I call it) [link to en.wikipedia.org] So those are the options. We should get "The Venus Project" in on this Patience is a virtue I just can't wait to achieve - CalmShock |
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User ID: 6802043 Germany 09/11/2012 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey OP, I must say, I like the way you think. Regardless of the practical application of your plan, you are a free thinker with an open mind. That is worth more than 1000 troll posts in this thread. I too came to the conclusion that Atlantis is in Antarctica, a while ago. My main "proof" for that theory is that many of the Nazis fled to Argentina after ww2. Coincidentally, that is where the most of the Vril saucers were spotted. And it is very close to Antarctica. Anyhow... Although I can't join your endeavour, because I am becoming father very very soon, I am interested in it. If you need a contact person in the "old world" for any reason, count me in. Will you have computers in your colony? Because a livestream would be awesome. |
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Antarctican
(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's all suggest amendments, then FORM and vote on an Antarctican Colonial Constitution. Last Edited by Antarctican on 09/11/2012 08:30 AM |
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AdHocBOHICA
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robbiew
User ID: 23561289 Ireland 09/11/2012 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | would you have to have survivalist skills to go, what for instance if someone reasonably healthy wanted to contribute, what would you say are the requirements, After a tragic year i've nothing keeping me here in this modern civilised prison called home, and why should i work all my life to make someone else wealthy. Regards, Rob.. Karma, pin and 5 stars coming your way. |
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(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's nothing like that at all. Antarctica is twice the size of Australia, there are nothing but a few military bases at the coasts. Or, you can stay and enjoy being a slave to several hundred bankers. Just curious, but how do we get there in the first place? If we could get an interested pilot, settlers could be shuttled from NZ to AA. People used to travel for months by boat for a hope of freedom in the new world, americas. Let's take the chance. We have much better resources and outlooks today than our ancestors could have even imagined! |
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(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | would you have to have survivalist skills to go, Quoting: robbiew what for instance if someone reasonably healthy wanted to contribute, what would you say are the requirements, After a tragic year i've nothing keeping me here in this modern civilised prison called home, and why should i work all my life to make someone else wealthy. Regards, Rob.. Karma, pin and 5 stars coming your way. Anyone is valuable, and can be trained in a trade if willing. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" Last Edited by Antarctican on 09/11/2012 08:42 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1499507 United States 09/11/2012 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am hoping you will provide clarification on psychological harm... If people go and colonize in Antarctica, children will result... so for my example, would it be considered psychological harm to set rules for a child? Say they want to do something that we fear will bring harm to them. As a parent, we explain why they should not do it and do not allow them to harm themselves... they throw a fit, etc. Is that psych. harm? |
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(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am hoping you will provide clarification on psychological harm... If people go and colonize in Antarctica, children will result... so for my example, would it be considered psychological harm to set rules for a child? Say they want to do something that we fear will bring harm to them. As a parent, we explain why they should not do it and do not allow them to harm themselves... they throw a fit, etc. Is that psych. harm? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1499507 Initially no children would be permitted until the colony will provide a good upbringing free of pain and suffering and scarcity. The initial colony will be no place for children, or the weak of mind, body or heart. Those that harm children in any way, known or unknown, shall face exile. End of story. Last Edited by Antarctican on 09/12/2012 02:49 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1499507 United States 09/11/2012 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am hoping you will provide clarification on psychological harm... If people go and colonize in Antarctica, children will result... so for my example, would it be considered psychological harm to set rules for a child? Say they want to do something that we fear will bring harm to them. As a parent, we explain why they should not do it and do not allow them to harm themselves... they throw a fit, etc. Is that psych. harm? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1499507 You would be required to be assessed in order to be allowed to reproduce, just as you have an assessment to use an automobile, so should you be assessed to bring LIFE into the world. If it should harm you or your child to reproduce, you shall not do so. It violates the first amendment. Those that harm children in any way, known or unknown, shall face exile. End of story. Okay.. I agree that not everyone should be allowed to reproduce. What is assessed and who develops the standards/testing, etc? I agree that no harm should come to any person, but I would still like clarification on the psych. harm you mentioned before. Is making another sad/upset (as in my example above, a child throwing a fit because they want to do something that the parent will not allow because it would hurt them) considered psych. harm? |
Antarctican
(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone may do whatever they please as long as it does not hurt another. Children would have no control or say until 25 for males and 21 for females. (Brain developed fully) We need to talk about things that matter, like how to get there, and function. Not breeding. Last Edited by Antarctican on 09/12/2012 02:50 AM |
CalmShock
User ID: 5056346 Canada 09/11/2012 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Probably not many trees to build cabins with and tents are cool when you're camping in the summer, but I don't think they provide much when it comes to permanent shelter from the cold. Heat is going to be a big issue... What sort of materials should be ferried over? Clay is abundant, cheap, malleable and would be good insulation against the cold, retaining interior heat. What sort of power generators will we be using? Food might be an issue as well although I'm sure we could survive on penguins, at least until we can build a bio-dome agricultural building. Patience is a virtue I just can't wait to achieve - CalmShock |
Fun-Da-Mental
User ID: 4433985 Netherlands 09/11/2012 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a fifteen year old daughter, so I cannot come for the next three years, but what a great idea and I wish OP and everybody all the best! I will keep following this, and like the other poster said; if you need someone in the old world, I'll be here. If I was free today I would say YES, I love cold better then warm, rh- to boot hehe great thinking OP |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1499507 United States 09/11/2012 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's fine. All I am asking is for you to explain a bit more what you consider to be "psychologically hurting another" as it seems to have a large grey area to me. Not to mention, it will also be important for people to know what is expected of them if they go. Is it the person's intent that will define it? |
Antarctican
(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't just ferry people to a remote desolate area without supplies first. Quoting: CalmShock Probably not many trees to build cabins with and tents are cool when you're camping in the summer, but I don't think they provide much when it comes to permanent shelter from the cold. Heat is going to be a big issue... What sort of materials should be ferried over? Clay is abundant, cheap, malleable and would be good insulation against the cold, retaining interior heat. What sort of power generators will we be using? Food might be an issue as well although I'm sure we could survive on penguins, at least until we can build a bio-dome agricultural building. Once again, this is not the 1800s. We will not be in log cabins, or be using dung as insulation. Solar, wind and temperature differential power generation would be used with ease. (magnetically levitated bearings, no bearings to freeze) Food from aquaculture as stated before. Last Edited by Antarctican on 09/11/2012 08:57 AM |
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(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a fifteen year old daughter, so I cannot come for the next three years, but what a great idea and I wish OP and everybody all the best! Quoting: Fun-Da-Mental I will keep following this, and like the other poster said; if you need someone in the old world, I'll be here. If I was free today I would say YES, I love cold better then warm, rh- to boot hehe great thinking OP You are more than welcome to join, hopefully in three years we will be established and welcoming thousands of new settlers daily! |