The Antarctic Settlement Project: Settle a greening Antarctica | |
Fun-Da-Mental
User ID: 4433985 Netherlands 09/11/2012 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a fifteen year old daughter, so I cannot come for the next three years, but what a great idea and I wish OP and everybody all the best! Quoting: Fun-Da-Mental I will keep following this, and like the other poster said; if you need someone in the old world, I'll be here. If I was free today I would say YES, I love cold better then warm, rh- to boot hehe great thinking OP You are more than welcome to join, hopefully in three years we will be established and welcoming thousands of new settlers daily! that would be awesome, OP, for sure you put an idea out there and it's very much welcomed, we need a different line of thinking! I am sorry I can't be one of the first! You seem to have a lot of knowledge, and many glp'ers could contribute to make this work! You got my head spinning hehe |
CalmShock
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robbiew
User ID: 23561289 Ireland 09/11/2012 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I for one would like the opportunity to start again away from the grid so i'm not lining the pockets of TPTB,.. But my only concern would be if this fantastic chance came about would they be any repercussions from those that already live there, would it be aloud to happen if there was an exodus to Antarctica.. |
Antarctican
(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, I get it. Basically the biggest hurdle then is investors. Generators, building materials, transport... Who foots the bill? Quoting: CalmShock We can make our own power and food systems. Solar and wind and aquaponics. Hopefully an adventurous Richard Branson type would be interested in funding and being a part of the expedition. Or, the rights to a documentary could be sold. Imagine that... The children of the proud Antarctic Nation looking back hundreds of years from now and being able to SEE those who settled there! Last Edited by Antarctican on 09/11/2012 09:24 AM |
Antarctican
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Antarctican
(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll admit, I like the idea. The only area that it could be done is the unclaimed Mary Bird land and a defunct claim made by Nazi Germany, New Swabia. Quoting: CalmShock [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to en.wikipedia.org] (apparently there's an abandoned base left there from 1972... I call it) [link to en.wikipedia.org] So those are the options. We should get "The Venus Project" in on this Excellent! You have to share the base though! Last Edited by Antarctican on 09/11/2012 09:32 AM |
Antarctican
(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I for one would like the opportunity to start again away from the grid so i'm not lining the pockets of TPTB,.. Quoting: robbiew But my only concern would be if this fantastic chance came about would they be any repercussions from those that already live there, would it be aloud to happen if there was an exodus to Antarctica.. It could not be controlled. Besides, TPTB have enough on their hands in the middle east. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 300884 Sweden 09/11/2012 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was born in Sweden. If I ever got the idea of moving closer to the pole, I'd shoot myself in self defense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884 Don't do that! Antarctica will not always be at the pole, or rather, the pole will not always be at Antarctica. OK, now I'm following you! |
ReadingTooMuch
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Antarctican
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CalmShock
User ID: 5056346 Canada 09/11/2012 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, I get it. Basically the biggest hurdle then is investors. Generators, building materials, transport... Who foots the bill? Quoting: CalmShock We can make our own power and food systems. Solar and wind and aquaponics. Hopefully an adventurous Richard Branson type would be interested in funding and being a part of the expedition. Or, the rights to a documentary could be sold. Imagine that... The children of the proud Antarctic Nation looking back hundreds of years from now and being able to SEE those who settled there! Selling the rights is on the right track I think. We would need a list of entities that would benefit from such an agreement of involvement and approach them with the idea. It would have to be a conglomerate, as this is no small task... National Geographic Discovery Channel Venus Project Branson on board would be good, even just for the travel costs. Mark Cuban is an eccentric, the opportunity to have his name related to such an endeavor might be appealing... Fundraisers could generate a chunk of change Patience is a virtue I just can't wait to achieve - CalmShock |
Antarctican
(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, I get it. Basically the biggest hurdle then is investors. Generators, building materials, transport... Who foots the bill? Quoting: CalmShock We can make our own power and food systems. Solar and wind and aquaponics. Hopefully an adventurous Richard Branson type would be interested in funding and being a part of the expedition. Or, the rights to a documentary could be sold. Imagine that... The children of the proud Antarctic Nation looking back hundreds of years from now and being able to SEE those who settled there! Selling the rights is on the right track I think. We would need a list of entities that would benefit from such an agreement of involvement and approach them with the idea. It would have to be a conglomerate, as this is no small task... National Geographic Discovery Channel Venus Project Branson on board would be good, even just for the travel costs. Mark Cuban is an eccentric, the opportunity to have his name related to such an endeavor might be appealing... Fundraisers could generate a chunk of change No corporations would be allowed to have any say in the colony. Donations with strings will not be accepted. |
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Fun-Da-Mental
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CalmShock
User ID: 5056346 Canada 09/11/2012 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, I get it. Basically the biggest hurdle then is investors. Generators, building materials, transport... Who foots the bill? Quoting: CalmShock We can make our own power and food systems. Solar and wind and aquaponics. Hopefully an adventurous Richard Branson type would be interested in funding and being a part of the expedition. Or, the rights to a documentary could be sold. Imagine that... The children of the proud Antarctic Nation looking back hundreds of years from now and being able to SEE those who settled there! Selling the rights is on the right track I think. We would need a list of entities that would benefit from such an agreement of involvement and approach them with the idea. It would have to be a conglomerate, as this is no small task... National Geographic Discovery Channel Venus Project Branson on board would be good, even just for the travel costs. Mark Cuban is an eccentric, the opportunity to have his name related to such an endeavor might be appealing... Fundraisers could generate a chunk of change No corporations would be allowed to have any say in the colony. Donations with strings will not be accepted. They would be included in the list of founders and would be remembered as such historically. Aside from that, biography rights to all original colonists should be granted to preserve the historical beginnings of a truly free society. Everything comes with a price. Patience is a virtue I just can't wait to achieve - CalmShock |
miqq
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einsteinsfly
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23575119 United States 09/11/2012 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am most certainly interested. My entire life I have wanted little more than to be self sufficient. I have much experience with hydroponics and have been researching aquaponics for years. Additionally, you mentioned selling the rights to a dvd. I am also experienced with almost every aspect of film making, and have the means. What is your timeline? Is this a virtual pipedream, or have you been actively working towards this? I am 100% ready. Also, per your other thread. I have the means, 50k is a small investment, however one would need to see a prototype in order to be willing to spend that much money without to possibility of monetary gains. How could this be arranged? |
Red Hot Chilean Pepe
User ID: 23594517 Chile 09/11/2012 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As we can clearly see, the surface is thawing and if you know anything about the media, they only report small bits of the true big picture. Quoting: Antarctican [link to www.news.com.au] Much more will be revealed soon. If anyone would be interested in an expedition to colonize and settle the surface of Antarctica, the true final frontier, I would be interested in providing knowledge and joining in the pilgrimage of a lifetime as well. Survivalists and self-reliant individuals would be most welcome. I am fit and young, and I can provide a wealth of knowledge regarding advanced energy production techniques. There is true freedom, and vast wealth to be had, as a New World is discovered under the ice. A paradigm shift as large as the founding of the Americas awaits you. I am in New Zealand, as close as one can get. Let's have a rational discussion about forming a colony in Antarctica. Let's talk about what is POSSIBLE, not what you have been TOLD can be done. ---------------------- The only area that it could be done is the unclaimed Mary Bird land and a defunct claim made by Nazi Germany, New Swabia. [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to en.wikipedia.org] (apparently there's an abandoned base left there from 1972... I call it) [link to en.wikipedia.org] -Thanks Calmshock (you have to share the base :P) ---------------------- Our housing could be a type of large, under-ice igloo. Entire versions could be manufactured on the surface, sunk and covered for very little cost. A large, flat disk with 3 sections that is sunk into the ice, then raises into a dome shape, with 3 floors, and a central shaft for plumbing etc, and a lift. The whole thing is then covered back up with ice. Please see the image below for a rough idea of the design I am referring to. I am not an architect, but I can supply knowledge to those with means. [link to s9.postimage.org] ---------------------- Let's Also all suggest amendments, FORM and then vote on an Antarctican Colonial Constitution. I will compile the valid suggestions and those who are going will vote. Here are my suggestions. Amendment 1: A human may not harm another human, nor harm their property in any way known or unknown currently. Amendment 2: A human may defend their life, their body or their property, or the life, body or property of another from attack by another human or non-human threat by any means available to them known or unknown currently. Amendment 3: All budgets will be 100% transparent and publicly voted on. Amendment 4: All information and research known or unknown currently will be 100% available, and published online. No information or speech in any form known or unknown currently may be restricted. Amendment 5: No experience known or unknown currently shall be outlawed or be classified as a crime that does not harm another human's life, their body or their property. One may do with oneself as one wishes. I will not respond to negative posts, I suggest other participants in this thread do the same. ------ My Rules for Pleasant Posting: Do not reply. Simply ignoring the negative posts and moving on is better than replying. If posters following this thread would please not reply to the following, they will simply fall into the depths of lower pages: -Racism -Religion -Politics -Attempts to derail the purpose of the thread. Thank you very much for the bumps, to those who do reply in defense. I really like your idea and your spirit. I'd like to point out that Chile is really closer to Antarctica than New Zealand, but leaving the stupid nationalism aside, I'd be happy to join your expedition. Can you outline the plan on how to get there, and what to do once there? I'm an agronomic engineer that has multiple intelectual skills, a strong will, and a profound desire of creating a new paradigm, in case you wonder why I would like to take part in this. All great truths begin as Blasphemies. G.B.S. GLP is like a diamond mine of information, in the sense that you have to shovel mountains of crap to find the diamonds, but it's still worth the pain. |
Cat Carel
User ID: 21611097 United States 09/11/2012 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think this could actually be quite successful if an initial, solidified group devoted time to planning the stages of development and securing necessary resources beforehand. It would be such a new experience for all involved, that cohesion and familiarity with the overall process should be established while still in a safe, non-survival environment. Right now, at least, emphasis should be on the basics of shelter, nutrition, hygiene, and sustainability- societal details will naturally evolve once a secure base is functional. Thanks for this idea, OP! Cat |
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Antarctican
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Antarctican
(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Antarctican We can make our own power and food systems. Solar and wind and aquaponics. Hopefully an adventurous Richard Branson type would be interested in funding and being a part of the expedition. Or, the rights to a documentary could be sold. Imagine that... The children of the proud Antarctic Nation looking back hundreds of years from now and being able to SEE those who settled there! Selling the rights is on the right track I think. We would need a list of entities that would benefit from such an agreement of involvement and approach them with the idea. It would have to be a conglomerate, as this is no small task... National Geographic Discovery Channel Venus Project Branson on board would be good, even just for the travel costs. Mark Cuban is an eccentric, the opportunity to have his name related to such an endeavor might be appealing... Fundraisers could generate a chunk of change No corporations would be allowed to have any say in the colony. Donations with strings will not be accepted. They would be included in the list of founders and would be remembered as such historically. Aside from that, biography rights to all original colonists should be granted to preserve the historical beginnings of a truly free society. Everything comes with a price. Absolutely, historical fame would be an excellent compromise, much better than most other things money can buy. |
Antarctican
(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am most certainly interested. My entire life I have wanted little more than to be self sufficient. I have much experience with hydroponics and have been researching aquaponics for years. Additionally, you mentioned selling the rights to a dvd. I am also experienced with almost every aspect of film making, and have the means. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23575119 What is your timeline? Is this a virtual pipedream, or have you been actively working towards this? I am 100% ready. Also, per your other thread. I have the means, 50k is a small investment, however one would need to see a prototype in order to be willing to spend that much money without to possibility of monetary gains. How could this be arranged? Let's do this then. Let's really make this happen. Why not? I am extremely well versed and experienced in aquaponic techniques, as well as solar and wind generation and power storage systems. BTW, the "luxury car" price was quoted as about the cost to build or convert an automobile into a Haunebu flying craft. I would prefer the money be invested in our expedition, the haunebu conversions can happen once we are established. I would not have you "Send" me money, in some sort of rip-off scheme as some have suggested. I would merely supervise and advise as to the workings and construction. I would meet personally. You would distribute the money as needed. Once again, all budgets would be 100% transparent, in accordance with our amendments. Last Edited by Antarctican on 09/11/2012 06:51 PM |
Antarctican
(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really like your idea and your spirit. I'd like to point out that Chile is really closer to Antarctica than New Zealand, but leaving the stupid nationalism aside, I'd be happy to join your expedition. Can you outline the plan on how to get there, and what to do once there? I'm an agronomic engineer that has multiple intelectual skills, a strong will, and a profound desire of creating a new paradigm, in case you wonder why I would like to take part in this. Ah, my most sincere apologies, I will edit the OP. I am sure there are many resources for modern colonists and if we have trained survivalist and preppers along with us, this would be an advantage. The purpose of this thread is to outline the plan, I personally have a "big picture" idea, and need the assistance of a diverse group to bring this to fruition. WE ARE THE NEW PILGRIMS! Last Edited by Antarctican on 09/12/2012 02:52 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 894684 Australia 09/11/2012 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Technologist, Futurist, Survivalist here. Left the system with my parabolic antenna and solar panels and spend most of my time @ hacktivism hidden off grid in the forest here on the sunny coast. Money is something I dont believe in no do I want anything to do with. Id love to go... but seems unrealistic. |
Antarctican
(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Technologist, Futurist, Survivalist here. Left the system with my parabolic antenna and solar panels and spend most of my time @ hacktivism hidden off grid in the forest here on the sunny coast. Money is something I dont believe in no do I want anything to do with. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 894684 Id love to go... but seems unrealistic. So did sailing over the edge of the "flat earth" to find a new world, like Columbus, or loading up in a boat for 4 months with the small hope of a better life, like the american pilgrims... We have it so much easier today, if only our ancestors could see us. They would be wondering why we have left a whole continent unsettled. We need to harden up. You would be a most valuable asset to the colony. Last Edited by Antarctican on 09/11/2012 07:30 PM |
EvilBugger
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