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Erectus User ID: 13420334 United States 09/11/2012 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've got an IQ of 128 and about $1,700 to my name. I have a green thumb and am very handy with both construction tools and mechanics. I want to go. All I require is that there be room for growing weed, that semi-automatic rifles be allowed, and I need bicycle trails. Oh and there must be some skinny women there because I'm not bringing my wife. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 894684 Australia 09/11/2012 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Technologist, Futurist, Survivalist here. Left the system with my parabolic antenna and solar panels and spend most of my time @ hacktivism hidden off grid in the forest here on the sunny coast. Money is something I dont believe in no do I want anything to do with. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 894684 Id love to go... but seems unrealistic. So did sailing over the edge of the "flat earth" to find a new world, like Columbus, or loading up in a boat for 4 months with the small hope of a better life, like the american pilgrims... We have it so much easier today, if only our ancestors could see us. They would be wondering why we have left a whole continent unsettled. We need to harden up. You would be a most valuable asset to the colony. Truth. Ill be following your threads. |
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(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a student of anthropology. I hold degrees in sociology and geography, and am working on a Ph.D in archaeology. Quoting: Erectus 13420334 I've got an IQ of 128 and about $1,700 to my name. I have a green thumb and am very handy with both construction tools and mechanics. I want to go. All I require is that there be room for growing weed, that semi-automatic rifles be allowed, and I need bicycle trails. Oh and there must be some skinny women there because I'm not bringing my wife. The aquaponics systems will be primarily for the production of high-density nutrient foodstuffs. Since sprouted hemp seeds fall into this category, and hemp can be used for a variety of needs, it will be grown in abundance. In some American colonies it was required by law that you DO grow hemp! My how the times change. I will not get into a discussion regarding the legality, pros/cons etc. There are thousands of other threads for that. As for your lack of commitment to your wife, and desire to copulate with other women, this shows a major character flaw in the loyalty area. Apologies, but due to a lack of loyalty, you are not welcome to join the colony. Last Edited by Antarctican on 09/11/2012 07:59 PM |
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(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting that my post got deleted. Would that indicate that an administrator of this site is the OP? I did not say anything ugly. I merely pointed out contradictions in what I have read. Hmmmmm... Quoting: Guest 23427092 There are many "Admins" on this site, Trinity is the owner. Registered OPs can delete posts. Sorry, but I will not allow this thread to be derailed by: -Racism -Religion -Politics -Other attempts to derail the purpose of the thread. We are discussing how TO make a new colony work, not why it CANT work. Last Edited by Antarctican on 09/11/2012 08:27 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23548963 United States 09/11/2012 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Awwww... I would Love to... lots of practical life skills, but long in the tooth and close to crippled! Wish you'd shown up, even 10 years ago, with that idea. Got to hold a black crystal from there some years back and it 'rang' with an indescribable energy. The acquaintance in possession of it wouldn't let me keep it no matter that I actually stooped to begging! lol Said I must find my own, but the opportunity never presented itself. |
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(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Awwww... I would Love to... lots of practical life skills, but long in the tooth and close to crippled! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23548963 Wish you'd shown up, even 10 years ago, with that idea. Got to hold a black crystal from there some years back and it 'rang' with an indescribable energy. The acquaintance in possession of it wouldn't let me keep it no matter that I actually stooped to begging! lol Said I must find my own, but the opportunity never presented itself. Your wisdom would be most welcome when planning, and once the able bodied have done the settlement you could join. This will not take 300+ years like colonial america, it will rise to a livable level of comfort much faster due to new technology such as aquaponics and air transport. Especially if we do not suppress technology Much of the lost photonic crystal technology from before our fall into the dark age is located there, under the melting ice of Atlantis. With the right device, information can be read/written to those crystals. This is another story, see my other thread. Last Edited by Antarctican on 09/11/2012 10:38 PM |
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User ID: 23625066 Canada 09/11/2012 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, I get it. Basically the biggest hurdle then is investors. Generators, building materials, transport... Who foots the bill? Quoting: CalmShock We can make our own power and food systems. Solar and wind and aquaponics. Hopefully an adventurous Richard Branson type would be interested in funding and being a part of the expedition. Or, the rights to a documentary could be sold. Imagine that... The children of the proud Antarctic Nation looking back hundreds of years from now and being able to SEE those who settled there! How about a Zeitgeist-ish type situation? ~kick at the darkness til it bleeds daylight |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23385993 Thailand 09/11/2012 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I for one would like the opportunity to start again away from the grid so i'm not lining the pockets of TPTB,.. Quoting: robbiew But my only concern would be if this fantastic chance came about would they be any repercussions from those that already live there, would it be aloud to happen if there was an exodus to Antarctica.. It could not be controlled. Besides, TPTB have enough on their hands in the middle east. I'll bet someone will show up to tell you that you can't do it.. I am your supporter, however.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20006444 United States 09/11/2012 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What an amazing idea! Does any government on earth claim rights to parts of Antarctica? I'm sure there are millions of unclaimed square kilometers to be had for settlement and homesteading. And who knows WHAT may be lurking under the melting ice? A generation or two will see it greening and the things they my find there from pre-deluvian civilizations could easily change the entire world! If I were 25 - 35 I'd be there with you in a NEW YORK MINUTE! But seeing I'm now 62, my support will be limited to wishing you well and helping those of you who decide to go off on this amazing adventure in ways that someone still back in the states may be able to do. What an amazing life you may have there! And what a future you may proffer your children and your grand children. May God truly bless and keep each and every one of you as you attempt to build a better world - or at least a better corner of the world!! Damn! To be young again! But as one ages you do gain wisdom. But you also become smart enough to know when doors have closed to you for the last time. |
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(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, I get it. Basically the biggest hurdle then is investors. Generators, building materials, transport... Who foots the bill? Quoting: CalmShock We can make our own power and food systems. Solar and wind and aquaponics. Hopefully an adventurous Richard Branson type would be interested in funding and being a part of the expedition. Or, the rights to a documentary could be sold. Imagine that... The children of the proud Antarctic Nation looking back hundreds of years from now and being able to SEE those who settled there! How about a Zeitgeist-ish type situation? Yes, the whole project venus idea is intriguing. |
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(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We will need some kind of goods or services to export as much food and energy will need to be imported at first and probably for the first few years Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9056977 True, but not for that long I don't think. Not if we harness solar and vertical wind turbines on magnetically levitated bearings to prevent freezing. The vertical turbines could be ground based, or lofted using balloons. |
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(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What an amazing idea! Does any government on earth claim rights to parts of Antarctica? I'm sure there are millions of unclaimed square kilometers to be had for settlement and homesteading. And who knows WHAT may be lurking under the melting ice? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20006444 A generation or two will see it greening and the things they my find there from pre-deluvian civilizations could easily change the entire world! If I were 25 - 35 I'd be there with you in a NEW YORK MINUTE! But seeing I'm now 62, my support will be limited to wishing you well and helping those of you who decide to go off on this amazing adventure in ways that someone still back in the states may be able to do. What an amazing life you may have there! And what a future you may proffer your children and your grand children. May God truly bless and keep each and every one of you as you attempt to build a better world - or at least a better corner of the world!! Damn! To be young again! But as one ages you do gain wisdom. But you also become smart enough to know when doors have closed to you for the last time. Your wisdom would be most appreciated, and once a suitable lifestyle is established in the colony, you would be welcome. As stated in the OP, there are several unclaimed areas, and most of the whole continent is unsettled. You would pretty much be left alone. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9056977 United States 09/11/2012 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We will need some kind of goods or services to export as much food and energy will need to be imported at first and probably for the first few years Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9056977 True, but not for that long I don't think. Not if we harness solar and vertical wind turbines on magnetically levitated bearings to prevent freezing. The vertical turbines could be ground based, or lofted using balloons. Sounds good. we are talking about quite a startup cost but still many things will need to be imported being truly self reliant would require millions of people. and billions in equipment think machine tools, smelters, plastics, liquid fuels, synthesis of medicines, paints,lubricants, and industrial chemicals. We gotta have something to trade so we can get that stuff |
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User ID: 23189182 United Kingdom 09/11/2012 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We will need some kind of goods or services to export as much food and energy will need to be imported at first and probably for the first few years Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9056977 True, but not for that long I don't think. Not if we harness solar and vertical wind turbines on magnetically levitated bearings to prevent freezing. The vertical turbines could be ground based, or lofted using balloons. Geothermal. |
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User ID: 23189182 United Kingdom 09/11/2012 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We will need some kind of goods or services to export as much food and energy will need to be imported at first and probably for the first few years Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9056977 True, but not for that long I don't think. Not if we harness solar and vertical wind turbines on magnetically levitated bearings to prevent freezing. The vertical turbines could be ground based, or lofted using balloons. Sounds good. we are talking about quite a startup cost but still many things will need to be imported being truly self reliant would require millions of people. and billions in equipment think machine tools, smelters, plastics, liquid fuels, synthesis of medicines, paints,lubricants, and industrial chemicals. We gotta have something to trade so we can get that stuff Simple, we trade in adventure holidays, couple of grand per person, anddd, there would be no seasons. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23623593 Thailand 09/11/2012 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >We will need some kind of goods or services to export as much food and energy will need to be imported at first and probably for the first few years Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9056977 >True, but not for that long I don't think. Not if we harness solar and vertical wind turbines on magnetically levitated bearings to prevent freezing. The vertical turbines could be ground based, or lofted using balloons. >>Sounds good. we are talking about quite a startup cost but still many things will need to be imported being truly self reliant would require millions of people. and billions in equipment think machine tools, smelters, plastics, liquid fuels, synthesis of medicines, paints,lubricants, and industrial chemicals. We gotta have something to trade so we can get that stuff >would require millions of people.. I don't think so.. mister! ..also, on a different note, as a separate idea, the idea of antarctic nation is no good. every settlement would be its own nation. basically, what we are trying to do is recreate the old 'greece' of just 'city states' with no military.. on the antarctic continent, which as one person pointed out.. is twice the size of australia.. and has a fresh water lake that is the size of laek onterio.. also, vast fisheries for food resource.. food should not be a problem.. also, if we are conscientious.. pollution should not be a problem either |
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(OP) User ID: 23386311 New Zealand 09/11/2012 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why make amendments to a brand new constitution? Put the freedom protection rules up front in the first article, so as to make it the most important. Courts in the US shit all over the amendments as they are "after thoughts" and the articles have greater weight. Even the amendments are in order of importance. For instance, first amendment rights to free speech, petition the government and separation of church and state are more important than 5th amendment rights to due process. So don't let the new constitution go down that miserable road, specify the order of importance. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23626791 There would be no courts, only a colony-wide vote on forgiveness or exile. The first amendment as stated protects the person and their property, it is the golden rule of humanity, and will not be moved. Last Edited by Antarctican on 09/11/2012 11:35 PM |