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BREAKING - 4 Chinese ship breach japan naval border

 
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What kind of Chinese ships? Fishing boats? Destroyers? Freighters? Anyone know before we get into too much of a frenzy? Maybe it's much ado about nothing.
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Here ya go Cannuk


Naval warfare Expert here

I just want to point out that the ships that the chinese sent are nothing but the equivalent to the coast guard they are not Chinese Navy ships, these are not combat ships but coastal defense ships,fishing enforcement types
 Quoting: Ready2bugout AKA R2B BOB


So what does Japan have?
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They have the entire U.S. Armed Forces at their disposal if they declare war on China...
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Jan 1st military gets cut back $600 billion and I'm sure that's just the beginning. Don't think we'll be top dog much longer.....
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What kind of Chinese ships? Fishing boats? Destroyers? Freighters? Anyone know before we get into too much of a frenzy? Maybe it's much ado about nothing.
 Quoting: David Fap


Here ya go Cannuk


Naval warfare Expert here

I just want to point out that the ships that the chinese sent are nothing but the equivalent to the coast guard they are not Chinese Navy ships, these are not combat ships but coastal defense ships,fishing enforcement types
 Quoting: Ready2bugout AKA R2B BOB


So what does Japan have?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23411913


They have the entire U.S. Armed Forces at their disposal if they declare war on China...
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Yeah right. LMAO.
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Jan 1st military gets cut back $600 billion and I'm sure that's just the beginning. Don't think we'll be top dog much longer.....
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Yep, thank a democrat...
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If Tokyo is a smart it will wait till after the dollar devalues the yen to the point of toilet paper to come and ask its neighbors to help its economy, of course this will involve a little readjustment of national priorities, so instead of the best interests of the US being put first all the time, it will the best interest of Japan and its regional neighbors will be a great day for the East, coming soon, so sorry cabal, you made a misfire there in the Mideast, will come back to haunt you, amen YAHshua/Jesus
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...A review conducted for Congress by the Center for Strategic and International Studies said that the Pentagon had not yet explained in sufficient detail how it would shift military forces to the region, or where the money would be found in an era of tightening budgets.

Mr. Carter, in an interview, spoke of deployments, planned deployments and anticipated spending to put the meat on the bones of the Asia-Pacific pivot.

The United States’ new way of war is defined by high-technology airborne systems for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance, and a fleet of advanced Global Hawk drones is being transferred to Asia from the Middle East, he said. A significant number of older Navy surveillance systems — the P-3 aircraft, designed for antisubmarine warfare but converted for counterinsurgency — are also are being shifted.

“We are releasing so much capacity as a consequence of not having to have that capacity tied up in Iraq and Afghanistan,” Mr. Carter said.

A number of the Air Force’s long-range B-1 and B-52 bombers will be withdrawn from the Middle East and Southwest Asia and moved to the Pacific. At the same time, the United States is discussing the placement of missile defense radar installations on the territory of Pacific Rim allies.

“People in the region want to see us walk the walk,” Mr. Carter said. “These are the steps that we will take to do that.”

In a speech to an international security conference in Singapore this year, Mr. Panetta announced that deployment of Navy ships, which have been spread evenly between the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, would be divided 60-40 favoring the Pacific...
[link to www.nytimes.com]
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i hope vietnamese kick chinas ass like they did before
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sounds like you are a vietnamese refugee of some sort.

Ask your uncle he'll tell you how he and his viet-cong comrades shit their pants in the jungle when they fought the chinese back in the seventies. It was messy.

tard
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If Tokyo is a smart it will wait till after the dollar devalues the yen to the point of toilet paper to come and ask its neighbors to help its economy, of course this will involve a little readjustment of national priorities, so instead of the best interests of the US being put first all the time, it will the best interest of Japan and its regional neighbors will be a great day for the East, coming soon, so sorry cabal, you made a misfire there in the Mideast, will come back to haunt you, amen YAHshua/Jesus
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That's an interesting thought, but waiting is sometimes not an option if your country is about to meet hostile action.
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Ono says that after warnings from Japanese coast guard ships, two or three of the Chinese ships apparently left Japanese waters Friday morning, but the others remain.

The Chinese Foreign Ministry confirmed that six surveillance ships had entered waters near the islands, which China also claims. [link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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Please get out of the west coast cities tomorrow - Seattle, Portland, San Francisco and Los Angeles. The signs are there for Sept 15.


It was 555 days from Sept 11, 2001 until we invaded Iraq.

Sept 15 - Saturday - is 555 days since the earthquake and tsunami in JAPAN.

May God have mercy on us. I believe there will be a great earthquake AND an invasion on our soil. Just get out. To my brothers and sisters in Jesus, please hear me. Trumpets are blowing!
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crazy
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Any Japanese GLP friends out there that can give us a feel for their country's take on this is? Will this die down or grow in your opinion?
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Four Chinese ships have entered Japanese waters near a group of disputed islets claimed by both Beijing and Tokyo, refusing to follow the Japanese coast guard's orders to vacate its territorial waters.

­Japan has created a crisis headquarters in response to the incident.

This is the latest in a series of diplomatic rows between China and Japan centered on control of the Senkaku, or Diaoyu in Mandarin, islands.

The ships were dispatched “to assert the country’s sovereignty” to the tiny archipelago in the South China Sea, which on Tuesday Japan had purchased from a private owner, ignoring Chinese territorial claims.


oil
 Quoting: MisterHouston


Japan should buy the Islands from China, and China should sell it to them.

As for the oil and mineral wealth located in the sea around there, JOINT DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN JAPAN AND CHINA would be a great way to go.

Japan needs land, as their Islands have geological issues.
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I was wondering when the chinese would want some attention...The muslims have too share
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North Korea will do something, all they've been in the news for lately was when Kim's wife wore trousers instead of a skirt.
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That was Him...See....kim jong
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Not stupid, just a war between an elephant and a whale, the Whale (Japan) cant beat the elephant on the land,and the elephant (China) cannot invade Japan. Air and Sea battles possible, but no invasions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23553306


A naval war, China would kick Japan ass. But maybe the US wants to sacrifice Japanese to see China naval potential?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23411913


the thing is, china isn't into military action until there's no choice, meaning japanese need to fire the first shot, otherwise it's just tough talks just like israel bluffing endlessly over Iran. China could easily sink some jap ships with their nuke powered subs (best class in the world) but likely you will never see that happen
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ABSOLUTE DOOM OVERLOAD AND ITS NOT EVEN FRIDAY YET!!!!


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Yeah, it is.
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Please get out of the west coast cities tomorrow - Seattle, Portland, San Francisco and Los Angeles. The signs are there for Sept 15.


It was 555 days from Sept 11, 2001 until we invaded Iraq.

Sept 15 - Saturday - is 555 days since the earthquake and tsunami in JAPAN.

May God have mercy on us. I believe there will be a great earthquake AND an invasion on our soil. Just get out. To my brothers and sisters in Jesus, please hear me. Trumpets are blowing!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8594088


What an arbitrary, useless coincidence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15119494



The kings of the East take down Babylon, and we are a daughter of Babylon. Unless God intervenes, we go down. What we deserve for forsaking Him, especially after He gave us such a beautiful land.
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LOL he gave us the land we had to commit genocide for?
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Senior military official urges no slackness in military preparation
English.news.cn 2012-09-14 10:02:3
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TAIYUAN, Sept. 14 (Xinhua) -- A senior Chinese military official has urged the army not to slack off and be prepared for any possible military combat.

Efforts should be made to ensure that the military is capable of resolutely performing its duty to safeguard the country's national sovereignty, security and territorial integrity whenever it is needed by the Party and the people
, said Xu Caihou, vice chairman of China's Central Military Commission.

Xu made the remarks Thursday during a recent inspection to certain military units in north China's Shanxi Province....

[link to news.xinhuanet.com] cool
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Four Chinese ships have entered Japanese waters near a group of disputed islets claimed by both Beijing and Tokyo, refusing to follow the Japanese coast guard's orders to vacate its territorial waters.

­Japan has created a crisis headquarters in response to the incident.

This is the latest in a series of diplomatic rows between China and Japan centered on control of the Senkaku, or Diaoyu in Mandarin, islands.

The ships were dispatched “to assert the country’s sovereignty” to the tiny archipelago in the South China Sea, which on Tuesday Japan had purchased from a private owner, ignoring Chinese territorial claims.


oil
 Quoting: MisterHouston


Japan should buy the Islands from China, and China should sell it to them.

As for the oil and mineral wealth located in the sea around there, JOINT DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN JAPAN AND CHINA would be a great way to go.

Japan needs land, as their Islands have geological issues.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23733329


I hear the diplomatic cour makes six figures, you should enlist....
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BEIJING, Sept. 13 (Xinhua) -- The Chinese government's announcement of the baselines of the territorial waters of the Diaoyu Islands and their affiliated islets is of great significance, a Chinese diplomat has explained.

"By doing so, we can proclaim to the international community our indisputable sovereignty over the Diaoyu Islands and the firm determination of our government and people to safeguard our territorial sovereignty and maritime interests," Deng Zhonghua, head of the Department of Boundary and Ocean Affairs with the Foreign Ministry, said in an interview with China Central Television on Thursday...

..In the next stage, China will administrate the Diaoyu Islands according to Chinese and international law, such as by providing weather forecasting and maritime environment forecasting for the islands and their surrounding waters, which has been done since Tuesday; depicting a detailed chart of the Diaoyu Islands and their adjacent waters so as to facilitate vessels passing by the area, said the director-general.

Japan's representation on China's move to delimit and publish the baselines of the territorial sea of the Diaoyu Islands is ridiculous, unreasonable and unacceptable to China, according to Deng.

He agreed with the huge number of other key Chinese figures to have spoken up on the issue that Japan's so called "purchase" and other acts implemented on the Diaoyu Islands are illegal.

The farce Japan directed and staged is invalid in terms of law and ridiculous in terms of reason, De
ng said.... [link to news.xinhuanet.com]
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The statement of the All-China Federation of Trade Unions reads, "Chinese laborers and employees hereby express our firm opposition to any attempts by Japan to jeopardize China's territorial sovereignty. We will stand firmly behind the government in any necessary measures to safeguard the nation's sovereignty."

The statement of the All-China Women's Federation reads, "Chinese women will rally behind the government in any necessary measures to protect the nation's sovereignty. We strongly demand Japan stop any move that might impair China's territorial sovereignty. [link to news.xinhuanet.com]
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RT is now reporting 6 ship now.

[link to rt.com]
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Steve Herman ‏@W7VOA

#Japan Foreign Ministry: US SecDef Panetta to also meet Foreign Min. Gemba as well as Defense Min. Morimoto during 2-day stay in Tokyo
If you cross country ski, start with a small country.
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BEIJING - China's armed forces have been piling on muscle in the past decade and are always prepared to safeguard the nation's sovereignty, security and interests.

With the international situation undergoing complex and profound changes, competition regarding international order, comprehensive national power, geopolitics and strategic space have become increasingly intense.

Conventional and non-conventional threats are interwoven, making the state security issue more complicated.

The Communist Party of China (CPC) Central Committee has ordered the People's Liberation Army (PLA) to help consolidate the Party's rule, provide guarantees of security during the country's important period of strategic opportunities, support national interests, and play an important part in safeguarding world peace and promoting common development.

The role of military force in the competition for comprehensive national power has been elevated and become a bargaining chip for countries to settle benefit-based relationships.

Therefore, strong military forces are required to be compatible with China's international status and security interests...

[link to www.chinadaily.com.cn]
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I would love to see China destroy Japan. Of course Japan will weaken China if the two got into a war. then it'll be easy to kick China's ass and control them.

Let them fight. Football season hasn't started yet and we need entertainment.
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Everyone is running out in the streets and acting crazy here in Tokyo!! OMG !!! :(
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Everyone is running out in the streets and acting crazy here in Tokyo!! OMG !!! :(
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?
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Everyone is running out in the streets and acting crazy here in Tokyo!! OMG !!! :(
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Everyone? Sounds like nationalistic frenzy. Enjoy it while you can...





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