A muslim's view on recent situation

Lol are you 15? Your argument is horrible.

You don't insult and degrade people to create "awareness".
You insult and degrade people to create hatred and division.

Which movie are you referring to? The one I posted or Innocence of Muslims? I was referring to the one I posted.

If you are talking about Innocence of Muslims, then I agree. That was intended to rattle your cage, which is extremely easy to do.

Yes you should respect everyone. Without respect things get out of hand and more hatred will spread as it is happening now. I don't judge people by what they look like, what their religion is or what race they are. I judge them by their actions. I never defended the people that killed the Ambassador (even though i believe there is more to the story than just a crazy mob angry at a movie). I agree that they are thugs and should be eliminated because their actions were horrible. But i don't agree with your hatred for an entire religion and/or race because of a group of poor uneducated people. The reason they are poor and uneducated is because they keep getting bombed and screwed with. Don't you think if these people grew up in proper neighborhoods with proper education they would be different? These people have nothing to lose because they already lost it all. They lost it all the moment Nato flew over them leaving hundreds of airstrikes behind. They don't hate because of Islam. They hate because of what's been done to them.

This last incident, as someone said in another thread, its like a straw that broke the camels back. You can't expect to push people in the corner, kick and punch them and then spit on them on top of it all and not expect a crazy outburst of a retaliation. We all live in the same world and the world is getting smaller. We must learn to co-exist together and disrespecting each other is not the answer. I'm tired of explaining this. If you don't understand, all i can do is hope that someday you will.

Ah, i apologize, i thought you were talking about the zionist made anti-islam movie.

I just watched your movie. My thoughts on your movie is, well, ill say it boldly.. Its bullshit. You're right its made to create awareness but fake awareness. The girl is not Arabic. I can tell by the way she is talking in Arabic. Its like an American girl trying to speak Arabic. Very obvious to me.

On the other hand, I understand this story doesn't necessarily mean it has to have happened to the actual girl in your clip but to create awareness that this sort of thing happened to a Muslim girl. I understand. She's from a dysfunctional fucked up family. Big woop. Run away from them. Marry someone you love and get away from your family who obviously don't seem to care much about you. You don't have to blame Islam because you come from a dysfunctional fucked up family. I mean common. I read that sort of thing everyday in American newspapers. Peoples uncles, grandfathers, even straight up fathers molest their children. Do they blame Christianity? She's the retard for allowing that shit to happen because she thinks Allah will abandon her rofl.. JESUS.... You dont see Muslims making awareness videos of Christian Priests molesting children and children saying "Oh Christ, our father, i let the priest molest me cause i love you so much"... buuhuuuuu....gimme a break...

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OP-and everybody else posting and reading here. Stop just for a minute and think about something. Can you imagine how childish we all look to GOD? To the rest of the universe? Here we are (humans) fighting and killing each other over and under the name of GOD/religion. How childish and insulting. It makes me sad to think about how GOD must feel watching us. STOP FIGHTING! In the end we are ALL the same---HUMANS. We ALL want the same things-Love, Family,friends, food,shelter. Corruption is in all aspects of what is taking place on this planet. If everyone just went home at the commands of whoever to go fight and kill who would be left to do such deeds? Do you really think the ones commanding such things are going to go out and fight? Peace will come to this planet when HUMANS have had enough of death and destruction and just walk away from it. We all need to Grow Up or we are not going to have a planet to live on!

Cant disagree with that!

OP, we westerners have no business in your countries except mutually beneficial buying and selling.

We have no business in the Middle East at all, and by that I definitely include Israel.

Most of the horrible comments written on here are written by people who have never known Muslim people, thus the hysteria.

Nevermind Muslim, just Arab/Chaldean/Persian/Mediterannean/Indo-Pak people in General. I'm lucky enough to be surrounded by all of the above and deal with each type frequently.

It's not the religion you're dealing with, it's the culture and shared genetic memory/mindset.

To stereotype a bit:

Persians are more intellectual but a little bit quicker to anger.

Lebanese aren't so terribly bright but are kind, joyful and very much into family and business. Expect exasperating negotiations and a certain love to place blame.

Jordanians are very serious. Didn't care much for Jordanians.

Tunisians are just Europeans in disguise. Lovably douchey, looking for a good time.

Chaldeans love to try to out smoke each other and are very sensual. When you deal with Chaldeans for extended periods, you tend to appreciate Islam more and long for Muslims.

Pakis and Bengalis - They tend to be Muslim the way most Christians are Christian. Not too seriously.

Indians - My favorite. I think they are on the defensive, because most Americans don't take the time to understand them at all. I do, and they appreciate it, and I rarely have a bad time with Indians.

Sihks - Also great. Smart, no hang-ups, peaceful. The turban is off-putting to say the least, but you gotta look past the scary.

you're tired? we are more tired of you and your filthy religion. i will never live side by side with you, never.

do you see what you wrote: "You can't expect to push people in the corner, kick and punch them and then spit on them on top of it all and not expect a crazy outburst of a retaliation."

that goes both ways, oh yea...

I didnt ask you to live side by side with me and neither do i want to live side by side with someone who has tunnel vision and is extremely racist and biast. You as a person are filthy to me. The way you think is filthy to me.

Yes what i wrote goes both ways but in reality, it is the Muslims that are being pushed into the corner. Right now, it is Muslims being pushed in the corner. If it was the other way around i would admit it. Too bad you can't.

op, stop trying to make your people look so damn innocent!

We are tired of the same manipulative game your religion has been playing for too long. It's over. Get over it. We have had enough of the bombings of buildings, soldiers, let alone, peoples heads sliced off with machetes! What gives? You think slicing people's heads off is funny? Our country is ALWAYS the first to help in any emergency or disaster, and also the first to always give financial help, On the backs of all of us citizens who have been losing our jobs, getting lower and lower pay from RICH employers, MANY losing their homes, everything they have worked for their whole lives. We don't live in freaking tents over here just making babies, ok? People bust there Asses off to survive over here just to support their families. And if we ever commit a crime against ANYONE over here, WE go to prison, just like anyone else in any other country. It's not some DREAM fuckin life like people think in other countries.

Your mind is so warped its sad. You think we live in tents? Are you still in grade school? Read all the posts before you comment on a forum. You're tired of the bombings? What bombings? WHAT BOMBINGS???

We're tired of bombs dropped over our heads. We're tired of our resources being taken away. We're tired of being mocked and humiliated after your soldiers rape our women, kill the livestock, burn peoples homes and randomly shoot innocent people walking to the market for target practice. Do i need to post videos of what your soldiers do in Iraq and Afghanistan? Do i really have to do that? Go to liveleak and see for yourself.

Yeah, but most of them don't go around killing anyone who;
1)disagrees with them, 2) doesn't share their fanaticism, 3) insults their beliefs. See the difference here? Muslims do all of the above and they do it often.

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Loadz, in all fairness I see where you are going. The question is: If the Muslims had the wherewithal to conquer or drop atomic bombs (Iran) to rid themselves of all the non-believers they would. (you might not but some of the radical ones probably would).

That said: you seem like a rational person, so ask yourself what would those radical muslims do if they had the tools/tech for destruction as their disposal? And what have they done?

Muslims killed and enslaved millions of people in europe.

same in india and africa, where they r doing it nowadays

Good point

I've never heard of Muslims going on a rampage over attacks on Jesus. There have been various incidents of tasteless and insulting "art" depicting Jesus in all kinds of depraved ways. Not a peep was heard from Muslims.

Why is that?

If you truly care so much about all of your prophets, why is it only Muhammed you talk about, and only criticism of Muhammed that gets your panties in a twist?

The answer is of course that you are lying. You do not care about the other prophets. You only care about Muhammed. And until you stop lying about yourself and your religion, I have difficulty respecting either.

You wouldn't have this image of "angry muslims" if they were oppressed so much.

Seriously? You're gonna start lying now? Muslims killed and enslaved millions of people in Europe?? Same in India and Africa? Really??? Where's your proof?? You know you're winning an argument when the people debating you start lying cause they have nothing else in their arsenal. Don't ruin it for the honest folks that are debating me.

Consider the beautiful land you so vigorously defend. Picture it reduced to ash at my whim...Consider the fate of your women.

I have to try, because i believe in you.

Brothers and sisters of Muslim faith, there is a world where ALL of our feelings can be respected, and it is the middle ground. It calls to you to remember your peace, and leave your war behind. See the real puppet masters pulling your strings. It was always them, sending your children to die. STOP, and PLEASE FIND YOUR VOICES!

DO NOT LET MY WORDS OF DEFENSE FOR YOUR FREE RIGHT OF BELIEF BE WRONG. I'VE SUNG THOSE WORDS OF PEACE ALL ALONG.

Please...

Listen to your hearts. And break this cycle of war. And join me for PEACE. FIND YOUR VOICE. WE ARE READY TO LISTEN.

Let your children speak. Let their honesty be FELT as well as heard. Pull no emotional punches, but drop your fists, please.

I beg you.

No matter what name we give it, or what face it uses when it presents itself, there is one true god, and it is love. Is that not enough?

please exp lane to me why it is ok to burn all bibles but wrong to burn the Koran ?
are they both religious teachings ?

Look, this argument about poverty, oppression and lack of education doesn't cut it for me. There is so much wealth in any of these arab nations that blaming it on the West is way out of line. Well, not way out of line but at least misguided.Why isn't there education? Why is there poverty to such a degree? It begins with the imans and the non-existent schooling systems. The problem is within. The problems exist within these nations wherein some individuals have a vested interest in keeping people poor, oppressed and uneducated. Why aren't moderate muslims standing up to the radicals and the oppressors?

So. You do not think your allah can defend himself? Or is he like Baal on Mt Carmel? maybe you need to holler a little louder. He may be sleeping.